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I see what you are saying but I disagree, Kane is the player he is and has redefined what a centre forward/number 9 can do. It does require us having players very willing to make runs behind as Kane spends a lot of time deeper than you would expect a CF to be but that creates some brilliant problems for opponents as their centre half can't go with him, their midfielder won't want to as that will muck up their shape and having Gordon and Saka both pushed high along with Kanes passing can and does really carve teams open. So yes Harry Kane could definitely play there but we become a lot easier to shape up against if he doescarly burn said:
Yeah Rice as an 8.MrOneLung said:So if Bellingham played as a 6 where would Rice play ?
And here's a out of left fielder.
Rogers doesn't get the 10 gig as Kane gets it with Watkins ahead of him.
I do happen to think that Kane is both our best 9 and best 100 -
So Anthony Gordon will be on a high flying to the world cup as a Barcelona player..... in terms of status in world football there cant be many if any squads up with us.
Kane - best striker in the world
Rice - champs league finalist and one of if not the best midfielders in his position
Saka - champs league finalist
Rashford - Barcelona
Gordon - Barcelona
Bellingham - one of the big 3 at Real Madrid
Madueke - champs league finalist
Eze - champs league finalist
Anderson - will likely become a £70-100m player this summer
Guehi - best defender at Man City
Stones - Bayern Munich chasing after him
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Might be a bit awkward though as he’s the Rashford replac0
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France are doing alright:DamoNorthStand said:So Anthony Gordon will be on a high flying to the world cup as a Barcelona player..... in terms of status in world football there cant be many if any squads up with us.
Kane - best striker in the world
Rice - champs league finalist and one of if not the best midfielders in his position
Saka - champs league finalist
Rashford - Barcelona
Gordon - Barcelona
Bellingham - one of the big 3 at Real Madrid
Madueke - champs league finalist
Eze - champs league finalist
Anderson - will likely become a £70-100m player this summer
Guehi - best defender at Man City
Stones - Bayern Munich chasing after him
Forwards: Maghnes Akliouche (Monaco), Bradley Barcola (Paris St-Germain), Rayan Cherki (Man City), Ousmane Dembele (Paris St-Germain), Desire Doue (Paris St-Germain), Michael Olise (Bayern Munich), Kylian Mbappe (Real Madrid),
Although ruined by:
Jean-Phillipe Mateta (Crystal Palace)0 -
Every team needs a scapegoatNorth Lower Neil said:
France are doing alright:DamoNorthStand said:So Anthony Gordon will be on a high flying to the world cup as a Barcelona player..... in terms of status in world football there cant be many if any squads up with us.
Kane - best striker in the world
Rice - champs league finalist and one of if not the best midfielders in his position
Saka - champs league finalist
Rashford - Barcelona
Gordon - Barcelona
Bellingham - one of the big 3 at Real Madrid
Madueke - champs league finalist
Eze - champs league finalist
Anderson - will likely become a £70-100m player this summer
Guehi - best defender at Man City
Stones - Bayern Munich chasing after him
Forwards: Maghnes Akliouche (Monaco), Bradley Barcola (Paris St-Germain), Rayan Cherki (Man City), Ousmane Dembele (Paris St-Germain), Desire Doue (Paris St-Germain), Michael Olise (Bayern Munich), Kylian Mbappe (Real Madrid),
Although ruined by:
Jean-Phillipe Mateta (Crystal Palace)2 -
All this talk of 6, 8, 10, 9 positions is so old fashioned, and it doesn’t work across borders either. I bet professional dressing rooms today don’t speak like this.1
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When playing Subbuteo years ago the teams lined~up as 1, Goalkeeper, 2 & 3, Full~backs, 5 & 6, Centre~backs, 4 & 8, Centre~midfield, 7 & 11, Wingers and 9 & 10 Centre~ forwards.
Maybe that's why I always lost.......2 -
They do but not in the traditional English model. We’ve adopted European (primarily German) numerical positions which is why it does cross borders. A modern day 6 is what we would’ve called a 4, for examplejimmymelrose said:All this talk of 6, 8, 10, 9 positions is so old fashioned, and it doesn’t work across borders either. I bet professional dressing rooms today don’t speak like this.1 -
Not sure how old you are but when I was young, in the 90s, midfielders tended to be able to do a bit of everything . Tens existed but they were strikers .fenaddick said:
They do but not in the traditional English model. We’ve adopted European (primarily German) numerical positions which is why it does cross borders. A modern day 6 is what we would’ve called a 4, for examplejimmymelrose said:All this talk of 6, 8, 10, 9 positions is so old fashioned, and it doesn’t work across borders either. I bet professional dressing rooms today don’t speak like this.1 -
If Eze takes a penalty like that in an England shirt, I will be fuming, absolute twat with that run up and to then completely miss the target, what a dick!!4
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Really funny, wasn't it?Sword65pf said:If Eze takes a penalty like that in an England shirt, I will be fuming, absolute twat with that run up and to then completely miss the target, what a dick!!2 -
Players, especially high end professionals who take penalties like that really piss me off. Firstly that indicates indecision and a lack of confidence in striking the ball. I could have strangled Rashford when he did it and he is one of the cleanest strikers of the ball in the world. Eze has a great technique but as soon as he did all that stuttering I would have put my house on him missing. Five paces max, pick your spot and put your laces through it. Gabriel has absolutely zero business doing that as a centre half and it doesn't matter how Brazilian he is
Unless you are Andrea Pirlo, then you do whatever the fuck you want.2 -
Laddick01 said:No Gibbs White is disappointing. No Hall is baffling. I’ll never understand the Henderson love - he must be a great guy.Tuchel gets a shot at it obviously, but I am very confused at some of the selections.
I can only assume his character and experience helps the team, especially when we are in the shit0 -
I read this morning that he has sacked Michael Flatley as his PK coach.Sword65pf said:If Eze takes a penalty like that in an England shirt, I will be fuming, absolute twat with that run up and to then completely miss the target, what a dick!!0 -
We are spoilt for choice in midfield... I'd play Bellingham as a box-to-box, rice slightly deeper and Rogers as a 10carly burn said:
Yeah Rice as an 8.MrOneLung said:So if Bellingham played as a 6 where would Rice play ?
And here's a out of left fielder.
Rogers doesn't get the 10 gig as Kane gets it with Watkins ahead of him.
I do happen to think that Kane is both our best 9 and best 101 -
Everyone raves about Toneys technique until he misses one.1
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He actually missed 2 this season, so he's not as infallible as people think. His record is still incredible though, 58 scored, 4 missed.MrOneLung said:Everyone raves about Toneys technique until he misses one.1 -
If Henderson isn't going to play, take him as backroom staff.siblers said:Henderson won't play a minute id say. Just going for his leadership.
Madueke being selected seems mad, was average at best for Arsenal and Gibbs White not going seems harsh on him3 -
Saw a post on X with all Eze’s penalty misses. Each time he did that stutter run up.Sword65pf said:If Eze takes a penalty like that in an England shirt, I will be fuming, absolute twat with that run up and to then completely miss the target, what a dick!!
Cannot be near a penalty if it comes to it.2 -
As regards penalties, I've noticed a lot of players use a particular technique standing on the side they would be on for their preferred foot, legs just wider than shoulder width apart and giving themselves time to see where the keeper goes and still being in a standing position to go the other way. The guy who took a penalty for Northampton against us is an obvious example that a lot of us will have seen. When I see a player shape up like that for a penalty I immediately think they will score. When they do what Greg Docherty, Eze, Rashford, Gabriel did then I roll my eyes. The odds are all in the player taking the penalty, don't need it overcomplicated by stuttering and dancing in your run up
I didn't like watching Lyle Taylors technique and especially didn't like him (loved him at the time) but at least he was decisive with it0 -
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He was one of the five players to take a penalty. Those should be the ones that in the moment are up for it and, if there are more than 5, those that are more likely to score. That hesitation and shuffle screams he fitted neither of those two criteria. Why would he or anyone else let him anywhere near the first 5 to take a penalty ? Anyone that takes a penalty like that should be number 11 in the pecking orderSword65pf said:If Eze takes a penalty like that in an England shirt, I will be fuming, absolute twat with that run up and to then completely miss the target, what a dick!!0 -
Presumably he's also used the same technique when he's scored though.Laddick01 said:
Saw a post on X with all Eze’s penalty misses. Each time he did that stutter run up.Sword65pf said:If Eze takes a penalty like that in an England shirt, I will be fuming, absolute twat with that run up and to then completely miss the target, what a dick!!
Cannot be near a penalty if it comes to it.
I don't think that penalty style is as good as just picking a spot high in a corner (and I'll stand by the fact I can't understand why professional footballers can't do that 95% of the time), but just showing his misses is a bit of confirmation bias.0 -
I used to take penalties. High in the corner you risk getting it very, very wrong and skying it. I used to know exactly which corner I was going to put it in, walk back, six step run up and hammer the fucker. No second guessing myself, if the keeper goes the right way generally they can't stop it if it's well placed, and even if it isn't, if it's along the ground there's a decent chance it goes in anyway. If you're right footed, hit it with your instep and put it to the keeper's left, the ball is moving away from them to start with and moves back in towards the net, so even if they guess correctly, the odds are even more stacked against them. 80% of the time I'd put it to their left. Going the other way you risk not getting enough whip on it and putting it too close to them. Think I missed 5 penalties out of the fifty-odd I probably took. Shit amateur level though, obviously, so no real pressure other than getting the piss taken out of you for missing 😏North Lower Neil said:
Presumably he's also used the same technique when he's scored though.Laddick01 said:
Saw a post on X with all Eze’s penalty misses. Each time he did that stutter run up.Sword65pf said:If Eze takes a penalty like that in an England shirt, I will be fuming, absolute twat with that run up and to then completely miss the target, what a dick!!
Cannot be near a penalty if it comes to it.
I don't think that penalty style is as good as just picking a spot high in a corner (and I'll stand by the fact I can't understand why professional footballers can't do that 95% of the time), but just showing his misses is a bit of confirmation bias.0 -
The problem with taking penalties like Ezes is that you leave yourself so open for pelters if you miss.
Put your foot through it and hit the target and there can be no arguments.
Why you would even consider it is beyond me?0 -
Flip side is yesterday the saved PSG penalty was called out as poor and at a good height, the next PSG penalty was at the same height but was called a great penalty purely because the keeper went the wrong way. If you don’t score a penalty you’re always going to be criticised so I understand why players try something to gain an advantagecarly burn said:The problem with taking penalties like Ezes is that you leave yourself so open for pelters if you miss.
Put your foot through it and hit the target and there can be no arguments.
Why you would even consider it is beyond me?0 -
Maybe, but I still think professional footballers who have access to a training pitch day in, day out for a few hours could/should practice penalties a fair bit and be good enough not to get it very, very wrong.Leroy Ambrose said:
I used to take penalties. High in the corner you risk getting it very, very wrong and skying it. I used to know exactly which corner I was going to put it in, walk back, six step run up and hammer the fucker. No second guessing myself, if the keeper goes the right way generally they can't stop it if it's well placed, and even if it isn't, if it's along the ground there's a decent chance it goes in anyway. If you're right footed, hit it with your instep and put it to the keeper's left, the ball is moving away from them to start with and moves back in towards the net, so even if they guess correctly, the odds are even more stacked against them. 80% of the time I'd put it to their left. Going the other way you risk not getting enough whip on it and putting it too close to them. Think I missed 5 penalties out of the fifty-odd I probably took. Shit amateur level though, obviously, so no real pressure other than getting the piss taken out of you for missing 😏North Lower Neil said:
Presumably he's also used the same technique when he's scored though.Laddick01 said:
Saw a post on X with all Eze’s penalty misses. Each time he did that stutter run up.Sword65pf said:If Eze takes a penalty like that in an England shirt, I will be fuming, absolute twat with that run up and to then completely miss the target, what a dick!!
Cannot be near a penalty if it comes to it.
I don't think that penalty style is as good as just picking a spot high in a corner (and I'll stand by the fact I can't understand why professional footballers can't do that 95% of the time), but just showing his misses is a bit of confirmation bias.0 -
Because some people are, for some reason, desperate to be considered cool and ballsy by moronic shallow people. The bigger the situation the better. They risk fucking up because they crave a moment where they’re this smug guy:carly burn said:The problem with taking penalties like Ezes is that you leave yourself so open for pelters if you miss.
Put your foot through it and hit the target and there can be no arguments.
Why you would even consider it is beyond me?
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Pressure does weird things to peopleNorth Lower Neil said:
Maybe, but I still think professional footballers who have access to a training pitch day in, day out for a few hours could/should practice penalties a fair bit and be good enough not to get it very, very wrong.Leroy Ambrose said:
I used to take penalties. High in the corner you risk getting it very, very wrong and skying it. I used to know exactly which corner I was going to put it in, walk back, six step run up and hammer the fucker. No second guessing myself, if the keeper goes the right way generally they can't stop it if it's well placed, and even if it isn't, if it's along the ground there's a decent chance it goes in anyway. If you're right footed, hit it with your instep and put it to the keeper's left, the ball is moving away from them to start with and moves back in towards the net, so even if they guess correctly, the odds are even more stacked against them. 80% of the time I'd put it to their left. Going the other way you risk not getting enough whip on it and putting it too close to them. Think I missed 5 penalties out of the fifty-odd I probably took. Shit amateur level though, obviously, so no real pressure other than getting the piss taken out of you for missing 😏North Lower Neil said:
Presumably he's also used the same technique when he's scored though.Laddick01 said:
Saw a post on X with all Eze’s penalty misses. Each time he did that stutter run up.Sword65pf said:If Eze takes a penalty like that in an England shirt, I will be fuming, absolute twat with that run up and to then completely miss the target, what a dick!!
Cannot be near a penalty if it comes to it.
I don't think that penalty style is as good as just picking a spot high in a corner (and I'll stand by the fact I can't understand why professional footballers can't do that 95% of the time), but just showing his misses is a bit of confirmation bias.1 -
Keeper held his nerve. Eze didn’t know what to do when he didn’t fall for the stutter and dive.3
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No…..he knew what to do alright and attempted to do exactly what he had planned…..he simply fucked it up.The Red Robin said:Keeper held his nerve. Eze didn’t know what to do when he didn’t fall for the stutter and dive.
I don’t think the keeper played any part in his decision with the shot he had chosen or the resulting lousy effort.0
