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ATHLETICS EUROPEAN CHAMPIONSHIPS, BIRMINGHAM 2026
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I agree, apart from the footage of the athletes hand hitting her foot, and the athlete herself saying she caught Werrol’s footman_at_milletts said:
A very strange decision. Even after seeing it a few times it appeared she tripped herself. The official explanation was that somebody else's hand caught her foot. Really?PrincessFiona said:
I hadn't heard that, only saw the TV footage showing Werro clipping her own leg. I wonder why their initial decision was to DQ her then they changed their decision.mart77 said:I’d guess Bourgoin saying in her post race interview with French media that she clipped Werro aided Werro’s appeal.
Should be a super fast race and hopefully a big crowd in for it.3 -
Fourth, fifth and sixth. Bloody hell.0
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Some great performances in the athletics this week. I always love someone running away from the field So the men’s 10k and women’s marathon were great to watch.
Nice to have some decent coverage too. The commonwealth games with just the highlights programme was borderline unwatchable.Should be some good competition to watch this evening too.4 -
going to be an interesting selection problem for the mixed 4x100 tonight, hoping for a 4th gold for Amy
think I'd go Glave, Hunt, Hughes, Lansiquot
harsh to leave out 2 individual finalists but for me Lansiquot is the best anchor in Europe1 -
You wouldn't think Adu as the second man?0
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Agree with all of that, but once again we've been pretty pathetic in the field events. Fair play to Scott Lincoln on a 4th place in the shot, but beyond that we've not been close. Jaz Sawyers will be in with a chance in the long jump, but even then she qualified 20cm short of Mihambo.kigelia said:Some great performances in the athletics this week. I always love someone running away from the field So the men’s 10k and women’s marathon were great to watch.
Nice to have some decent coverage too. The commonwealth games with just the highlights programme was borderline unwatchable.Should be some good competition to watch this evening too.
I know some of these field athletes are exceptional and we need to be realistic, but there's something seriously wrong with our own talent identification and development, etc. in the field events. The Scandi's, Dutch, Germans, Italians, Swiss seemingly have a conveyor belt of field and multi-event athletes. Our last competitive decathlete was Dean Macey, who retired 20 years ago!
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Can’t argue with that at all really. Would be nice to have Dina Asher-Smith out there as I am not sure how many more champs she has in her and I suspect the GB team would still be favourites.rina said:going to be an interesting selection problem for the mixed 4x100 tonight, hoping for a 4th gold for Amy
think I'd go Glave, Hunt, Hughes, Lansiquot
harsh to leave out 2 individual finalists but for me Lansiquot is the best anchor in Europe
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WHAddick said:You wouldn't think Adu as the second man?
leaving out Azu would definitely be a tough call but for me personally Hughes with a running start has to be in there and it would a struggle to leave out Glave, the individual champion who just ran one of the fastest ever relay splits.LenGlover said:
Or Azu as number 1?WHAddick said:You wouldn't think Adu as the second man?
I certainly wouldn't want to be the person whose job it is to make the decision1 -
Think some of the events are a bit pointless. Mixed relays and marathon team event? Are organisers desperate to award medals....1
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Brilliant from the GB quartet. Great interview afterwards and they seem to genuinely want to win for each other.
British sprinting in great shape, just need to improve in the field events.
Great to watch this on tv all week, after the Commonwealth Games were hidden from anyone without TNT. Watching highlights is not the same, well done BBC.5 -
The TNT coverage of the Commonwealth's was not slick BBC but was very watchablekigelia said:Some great performances in the athletics this week. I always love someone running away from the field So the men’s 10k and women’s marathon were great to watch.
Nice to have some decent coverage too. The commonwealth games with just the highlights programme was borderline unwatchable.Should be some good competition to watch this evening too.1 -
Still not as bad as swimminghoof_it_up_to_benty said:Think some of the events are a bit pointless. Mixed relays and marathon team event? Are organisers desperate to award medals....0 -
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Why do we compete as GB & NI rather than U.K.?0
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Irish athletes can choose who they represent - it is rather complex.se9addick said:Why do we compete as GB & NI rather than U.K.?
E.G Kate O'Connor the Heptathlon gold medalist competes for Ireland at all major global meets, including the Olympic Games, World Championships, and European Championships (where she just won Heptathlon gold in Birmingham).
For Northern Ireland: Because the Republic of Ireland does not participate in the Commonwealth Games, she utilizes her Newry birthright to represent Team Northern Ireland at that specific event, where she recently won gold in Glasgow.
TBF all her training and upbringing in the sport has been under the Irish system. There are NI athletes who choose GB for cultural reasons
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But lots of people can choose between more than one nation. If you are from Northern Ireland and feel inclined to represent Ireland that’s absolutely fine, I don’t understand why that would mean our team can’t be named after our country.I know in some circumstances the use of the word “Kingdom” can infer some sort of political statement which is banned in athletics, is it to do with that?0
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I'd like to see the mixed 4x100 brought into the World Champs and the Olympics, if only because it offers lots of opportunities for the Yanks to mess it up. 4x100 has a fair number of changes go wrong at the best of times, and adding in the element that every change involves one runner being 10% faster than the other and there's potential for carnage.
I might have felt different if we'd been one of the 3 that didn't finish, but we smashed it. Now let's see the Yanks try it...2 -
I was wondering the same, considering the UK = the United Kingdom and Great Britain and Northern Ireland, so I don't understand how Team GB & NI is any different to Team UK. If anything, commonly refering to it as Team GB is forgetting the NI bit. What is confusing is British = UK (different to Great Britain). We refer to the British passport, but it is actually a passport of the UK - see the latent image of the letters UK inside on front endpaperRaith_C_Chattonell said:
Irish athletes can choose who they represent - it is rather complex.se9addick said:Why do we compete as GB & NI rather than U.K.?
E.G Kate O'Connor the Heptathlon gold medalist competes for Ireland at all major global meets, including the Olympic Games, World Championships, and European Championships (where she just won Heptathlon gold in Birmingham).
For Northern Ireland: Because the Republic of Ireland does not participate in the Commonwealth Games, she utilizes her Newry birthright to represent Team Northern Ireland at that specific event, where she recently won gold in Glasgow.
TBF all her training and upbringing in the sport has been under the Irish system. There are NI athletes who choose GB for cultural reasons
The French call the British Embassy in Paris, L'Ambassade du Royaume-Uni, i.e UK!
I understand about Irish athletes and their choice (like Kate O'Connor) and Ireland/Eire/NI, same as Northern Irish can have a UK and/or an Irish passport0 -
Here’s what AI has to say - don’t think it’s really anything to do with Ireland (as you say, that wouldn’t really make sense in this case):PrincessFiona said:
I was wondering the same, considering the UK = the United Kingdom and Great Britain and Northern Ireland, so I don't understand how Team GB & NI is any different to Team UK. If anything, commonly refering to it as Team GB is forgetting the NI bit. What is confusing is British = UK (different to Great Britain). We refer to the British passport, but it is actually a passport of the UK - see the letters UK inside the front coverRaith_C_Chattonell said:
Irish athletes can choose who they represent - it is rather complex.se9addick said:Why do we compete as GB & NI rather than U.K.?
E.G Kate O'Connor the Heptathlon gold medalist competes for Ireland at all major global meets, including the Olympic Games, World Championships, and European Championships (where she just won Heptathlon gold in Birmingham).
For Northern Ireland: Because the Republic of Ireland does not participate in the Commonwealth Games, she utilizes her Newry birthright to represent Team Northern Ireland at that specific event, where she recently won gold in Glasgow.
TBF all her training and upbringing in the sport has been under the Irish system. There are NI athletes who choose GB for cultural reasons
The French call the British Embassy in Paris, L'Ambassade du Royaume-Uni, i.e UK!
I understand about Irish athletes and their choice (like Kate O'Connor) and Ireland/Eire/NI, same as Northern Irish can have a UK and/or an Irish passport
”The team competes as "Great Britain and Northern Ireland" because that is the full, legally accurate description of the sovereign nation's athletic jurisdiction, whereas "United Kingdom" would technically exclude several territories represented by the same team. [1, 2]Why "UK" Is Not Used- Territorial Overreach: The governing body, UK Athletics (rebranded commercially as British Athletics), is responsible for athletes not just within the UK, but also from the Crown Dependencies (the Isle of Man and the Channel Islands) and UK Overseas Territories (such as Gibraltar). [1, 2, 3]
- The "UK" Boundary: Because the Crown Dependencies are independent jurisdictions and legally not part of the United Kingdom, using the term "United Kingdom" would technically exclude those athletes.[1]
- The Full Name Compromise: To ensure athletes from the main island (Great Britain) and Northern Ireland are explicitly recognized alongside these extra territories, the official political title of the sovereign territory is spelled out in international sports like World and European Athletics. [1, 2]
Why "Great Britain" Alone Is Incomplete- Geographical Exclusion: "Great Britain" is a geographical term that only encompasses England, Scotland, and Wales.
- Northern Ireland Inclusion: Leaving the name as just "Great Britain" would erase Northern Ireland from the team title. While the International Olympic Committee uses "Team GB" as a marketing brand, it faces heavy criticism for alienating Northern Irish athletes, which is why athletics governing bodies stick to the full name.”
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and that is a great example of why we shouldn't rely on AI. 'Great Britain and Northern Ireland' clearly also excludes crown dependencies.se9addick said:
Here’s what AI has to say - don’t think it’s really anything to do with Ireland (as you say, that wouldn’t really make sense in this case):PrincessFiona said:
I was wondering the same, considering the UK = the United Kingdom and Great Britain and Northern Ireland, so I don't understand how Team GB & NI is any different to Team UK. If anything, commonly refering to it as Team GB is forgetting the NI bit. What is confusing is British = UK (different to Great Britain). We refer to the British passport, but it is actually a passport of the UK - see the letters UK inside the front coverRaith_C_Chattonell said:
Irish athletes can choose who they represent - it is rather complex.se9addick said:Why do we compete as GB & NI rather than U.K.?
E.G Kate O'Connor the Heptathlon gold medalist competes for Ireland at all major global meets, including the Olympic Games, World Championships, and European Championships (where she just won Heptathlon gold in Birmingham).
For Northern Ireland: Because the Republic of Ireland does not participate in the Commonwealth Games, she utilizes her Newry birthright to represent Team Northern Ireland at that specific event, where she recently won gold in Glasgow.
TBF all her training and upbringing in the sport has been under the Irish system. There are NI athletes who choose GB for cultural reasons
The French call the British Embassy in Paris, L'Ambassade du Royaume-Uni, i.e UK!
I understand about Irish athletes and their choice (like Kate O'Connor) and Ireland/Eire/NI, same as Northern Irish can have a UK and/or an Irish passport
”The team competes as "Great Britain and Northern Ireland" because that is the full, legally accurate description of the sovereign nation's athletic jurisdiction, whereas "United Kingdom" would technically exclude several territories represented by the same team. [1, 2]Why "UK" Is Not Used- Territorial Overreach: The governing body, UK Athletics (rebranded commercially as British Athletics), is responsible for athletes not just within the UK, but also from the Crown Dependencies (the Isle of Man and the Channel Islands) and UK Overseas Territories (such as Gibraltar). [1, 2, 3]
- The "UK" Boundary: Because the Crown Dependencies are independent jurisdictions and legally not part of the United Kingdom, using the term "United Kingdom" would technically exclude those athletes.[1]
- The Full Name Compromise: To ensure athletes from the main island (Great Britain) and Northern Ireland are explicitly recognized alongside these extra territories, the official political title of the sovereign territory is spelled out in international sports like World and European Athletics. [1, 2]
Why "Great Britain" Alone Is Incomplete- Geographical Exclusion: "Great Britain" is a geographical term that only encompasses England, Scotland, and Wales.
- Northern Ireland Inclusion: Leaving the name as just "Great Britain" would erase Northern Ireland from the team title. While the International Olympic Committee uses "Team GB" as a marketing brand, it faces heavy criticism for alienating Northern Irish athletes, which is why athletics governing bodies stick to the full name.”
I genuinely think there are 2 correct answers to the original question, either
-nobody knows
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-because that's how we've always done it
the second answer is probably more accurate. for the 1896 olympics we were either Great Britain and Ireland or just Great Britain and we've stuck with it ever since albeit with a change in 1924 (?) to GB and NI.
then when the olympic designation codes got brought in we were allocated GBR so we're kinda stuck with it0 -
So I think the reason GB & NI works better than U.K. is that U.K. is a legally and politically defined construct that excludes the crown dependencies, whereas GB & NI is simply a geographic term that’s a bit looser and has no real political definition. Plus the precedent that you cite from the early days of international competition.rina said:
and that is a great example of why we shouldn't rely on AI. 'Great Britain and Northern Ireland' clearly also excludes crown dependencies.se9addick said:
Here’s what AI has to say - don’t think it’s really anything to do with Ireland (as you say, that wouldn’t really make sense in this case):PrincessFiona said:
I was wondering the same, considering the UK = the United Kingdom and Great Britain and Northern Ireland, so I don't understand how Team GB & NI is any different to Team UK. If anything, commonly refering to it as Team GB is forgetting the NI bit. What is confusing is British = UK (different to Great Britain). We refer to the British passport, but it is actually a passport of the UK - see the letters UK inside the front coverRaith_C_Chattonell said:
Irish athletes can choose who they represent - it is rather complex.se9addick said:Why do we compete as GB & NI rather than U.K.?
E.G Kate O'Connor the Heptathlon gold medalist competes for Ireland at all major global meets, including the Olympic Games, World Championships, and European Championships (where she just won Heptathlon gold in Birmingham).
For Northern Ireland: Because the Republic of Ireland does not participate in the Commonwealth Games, she utilizes her Newry birthright to represent Team Northern Ireland at that specific event, where she recently won gold in Glasgow.
TBF all her training and upbringing in the sport has been under the Irish system. There are NI athletes who choose GB for cultural reasons
The French call the British Embassy in Paris, L'Ambassade du Royaume-Uni, i.e UK!
I understand about Irish athletes and their choice (like Kate O'Connor) and Ireland/Eire/NI, same as Northern Irish can have a UK and/or an Irish passport
”The team competes as "Great Britain and Northern Ireland" because that is the full, legally accurate description of the sovereign nation's athletic jurisdiction, whereas "United Kingdom" would technically exclude several territories represented by the same team. [1, 2]Why "UK" Is Not Used- Territorial Overreach: The governing body, UK Athletics (rebranded commercially as British Athletics), is responsible for athletes not just within the UK, but also from the Crown Dependencies (the Isle of Man and the Channel Islands) and UK Overseas Territories (such as Gibraltar). [1, 2, 3]
- The "UK" Boundary: Because the Crown Dependencies are independent jurisdictions and legally not part of the United Kingdom, using the term "United Kingdom" would technically exclude those athletes.[1]
- The Full Name Compromise: To ensure athletes from the main island (Great Britain) and Northern Ireland are explicitly recognized alongside these extra territories, the official political title of the sovereign territory is spelled out in international sports like World and European Athletics. [1, 2]
Why "Great Britain" Alone Is Incomplete- Geographical Exclusion: "Great Britain" is a geographical term that only encompasses England, Scotland, and Wales.
- Northern Ireland Inclusion: Leaving the name as just "Great Britain" would erase Northern Ireland from the team title. While the International Olympic Committee uses "Team GB" as a marketing brand, it faces heavy criticism for alienating Northern Irish athletes, which is why athletics governing bodies stick to the full name.”
I genuinely think there are 2 correct answers to the original question, either
-nobody knows
or
-because that's how we've always done it
the second answer is probably more accurate. for the 1896 olympics we were either Great Britain and Ireland or just Great Britain and we've stuck with it ever since albeit with a change in 1924 (?) to GB and NI.
then when the olympic designation codes got brought in we were allocated GBR so we're kinda stuck with itI’d probably change it to United Kingdom, but a) I’m not going to die on a hill over it, b) Team GB sounds better at the Olympics.1 -
Yes, and Great Britain is insufficent, so a bit of a shame for any of the others when it gets coloquially referred to a Team GB. In tennis for example, it says 'Great Britain' for Fery with the Union Flagse9addick said:
Here’s what AI has to say - don’t think it’s really anything to do with Ireland (as you say, that wouldn’t really make sense in this case):PrincessFiona said:
I was wondering the same, considering the UK = the United Kingdom and Great Britain and Northern Ireland, so I don't understand how Team GB & NI is any different to Team UK. If anything, commonly refering to it as Team GB is forgetting the NI bit. What is confusing is British = UK (different to Great Britain). We refer to the British passport, but it is actually a passport of the UK - see the letters UK inside the front coverRaith_C_Chattonell said:
Irish athletes can choose who they represent - it is rather complex.se9addick said:Why do we compete as GB & NI rather than U.K.?
E.G Kate O'Connor the Heptathlon gold medalist competes for Ireland at all major global meets, including the Olympic Games, World Championships, and European Championships (where she just won Heptathlon gold in Birmingham).
For Northern Ireland: Because the Republic of Ireland does not participate in the Commonwealth Games, she utilizes her Newry birthright to represent Team Northern Ireland at that specific event, where she recently won gold in Glasgow.
TBF all her training and upbringing in the sport has been under the Irish system. There are NI athletes who choose GB for cultural reasons
The French call the British Embassy in Paris, L'Ambassade du Royaume-Uni, i.e UK!
I understand about Irish athletes and their choice (like Kate O'Connor) and Ireland/Eire/NI, same as Northern Irish can have a UK and/or an Irish passport
”The team competes as "Great Britain and Northern Ireland" because that is the full, legally accurate description of the sovereign nation's athletic jurisdiction, whereas "United Kingdom" would technically exclude several territories represented by the same team. [1, 2]Why "UK" Is Not Used- Territorial Overreach: The governing body, UK Athletics (rebranded commercially as British Athletics), is responsible for athletes not just within the UK, but also from the Crown Dependencies (the Isle of Man and the Channel Islands) and UK Overseas Territories (such as Gibraltar). [1, 2, 3]
- The "UK" Boundary: Because the Crown Dependencies are independent jurisdictions and legally not part of the United Kingdom, using the term "United Kingdom" would technically exclude those athletes.[1]
- The Full Name Compromise: To ensure athletes from the main island (Great Britain) and Northern Ireland are explicitly recognized alongside these extra territories, the official political title of the sovereign territory is spelled out in international sports like World and European Athletics. [1, 2]
Why "Great Britain" Alone Is Incomplete- Geographical Exclusion: "Great Britain" is a geographical term that only encompasses England, Scotland, and Wales.
- Northern Ireland Inclusion: Leaving the name as just "Great Britain" would erase Northern Ireland from the team title. While the International Olympic Committee uses "Team GB" as a marketing brand, it faces heavy criticism for alienating Northern Irish athletes, which is why athletics governing bodies stick to the full name.”
https://www.atptour.com/en/players/Arthur-Fery/F0DM/overview
In the women's WTA, Heather Watson, from Guernsey is show as 'GBR' with the union flag
https://www.wtatennis.com/players/316981/heather-watson
Yes they are both British but the team isn't technically just 'Great Britain'
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UK is a political constructGB is a geographic term, representing the islands of Britain. GB &NI represents islands of Britain and 6 counties of Northern Ireland.
Team GB is chosen rather than the official Great Britain and Northern Ireland Team. I assume as although it is incorrect , it is much less of a mouthful.1 -
Raith_C_Chattonell said:
Irish athletes can choose who they represent - it is rather complex.se9addick said:Why do we compete as GB & NI rather than U.K.?
E.G Kate O'Connor the Heptathlon gold medalist competes for Ireland at all major global meets, including the Olympic Games, World Championships, and European Championships (where she just won Heptathlon gold in Birmingham).
For Northern Ireland: Because the Republic of Ireland does not participate in the Commonwealth Games, she utilizes her Newry birthright to represent Team Northern Ireland at that specific event, where she recently won gold in Glasgow.
TBF all her training and upbringing in the sport has been under the Irish system. There are NI athletes who choose GB for cultural reasons
I get the choosing to represent Ireland part if that is how she feels/identifies, but to then flip over to Northern Ireland when it suits is taking the piss.1 -
Understand where you are coming from but if the rules allow her to exploit her dual qualification then if it gives her the opportunity to win more medals I guess she will and others would too.MrOneLung said:Raith_C_Chattonell said:
Irish athletes can choose who they represent - it is rather complex.se9addick said:Why do we compete as GB & NI rather than U.K.?
E.G Kate O'Connor the Heptathlon gold medalist competes for Ireland at all major global meets, including the Olympic Games, World Championships, and European Championships (where she just won Heptathlon gold in Birmingham).
For Northern Ireland: Because the Republic of Ireland does not participate in the Commonwealth Games, she utilizes her Newry birthright to represent Team Northern Ireland at that specific event, where she recently won gold in Glasgow.
TBF all her training and upbringing in the sport has been under the Irish system. There are NI athletes who choose GB for cultural reasons
I get the choosing to represent Ireland part if that is how she feels/identifies, but to then flip over to Northern Ireland when it suits is taking the piss.2 -
It is a bit like that, but you can be Northern Irish and Irish, hence being able to have both British and Irish passportsMrOneLung said:Raith_C_Chattonell said:
Irish athletes can choose who they represent - it is rather complex.se9addick said:Why do we compete as GB & NI rather than U.K.?
E.G Kate O'Connor the Heptathlon gold medalist competes for Ireland at all major global meets, including the Olympic Games, World Championships, and European Championships (where she just won Heptathlon gold in Birmingham).
For Northern Ireland: Because the Republic of Ireland does not participate in the Commonwealth Games, she utilizes her Newry birthright to represent Team Northern Ireland at that specific event, where she recently won gold in Glasgow.
TBF all her training and upbringing in the sport has been under the Irish system. There are NI athletes who choose GB for cultural reasons
I get the choosing to represent Ireland part if that is how she feels/identifies, but to then flip over to Northern Ireland when it suits is taking the piss.0 -
She's not the only person who does this - Rory McIlroy represents Ireland at the Olympics but is British for most other competitions. It's just part of being from Northern Ireland - everyone born there is entitled to either or both citizenships, as they wish, and neither country can subject them to any legal disadvantage as a result of their choice. Lots of people don't like the sectarianism there and actively want to be both. It's a complicated place.MrOneLung said:Raith_C_Chattonell said:
Irish athletes can choose who they represent - it is rather complex.se9addick said:Why do we compete as GB & NI rather than U.K.?
E.G Kate O'Connor the Heptathlon gold medalist competes for Ireland at all major global meets, including the Olympic Games, World Championships, and European Championships (where she just won Heptathlon gold in Birmingham).
For Northern Ireland: Because the Republic of Ireland does not participate in the Commonwealth Games, she utilizes her Newry birthright to represent Team Northern Ireland at that specific event, where she recently won gold in Glasgow.
TBF all her training and upbringing in the sport has been under the Irish system. There are NI athletes who choose GB for cultural reasons
I get the choosing to represent Ireland part if that is how she feels/identifies, but to then flip over to Northern Ireland when it suits is taking the piss.0 -
I don’t think McIlroy has ever represented Britain (unless it was a GB & Ireland team).Swindon_Addick said:
She's not the only person who does this - Rory McIlroy represents Ireland at the Olympics but is British for most other competitions. It's just part of being from Northern Ireland - everyone born there is entitled to either or both citizenships, as they wish, and neither country can subject them to any legal disadvantage as a result of their choice. Lots of people don't like the sectarianism there and actively want to be both. It's a complicated place.MrOneLung said:Raith_C_Chattonell said:
Irish athletes can choose who they represent - it is rather complex.se9addick said:Why do we compete as GB & NI rather than U.K.?
E.G Kate O'Connor the Heptathlon gold medalist competes for Ireland at all major global meets, including the Olympic Games, World Championships, and European Championships (where she just won Heptathlon gold in Birmingham).
For Northern Ireland: Because the Republic of Ireland does not participate in the Commonwealth Games, she utilizes her Newry birthright to represent Team Northern Ireland at that specific event, where she recently won gold in Glasgow.
TBF all her training and upbringing in the sport has been under the Irish system. There are NI athletes who choose GB for cultural reasons
I get the choosing to represent Ireland part if that is how she feels/identifies, but to then flip over to Northern Ireland when it suits is taking the piss.0 -
Still doesn’t explain why we compete as GB & NI rather than UK, seeing as UK means “The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland”.Raith_C_Chattonell said:
Irish athletes can choose who they represent - it is rather complex.se9addick said:Why do we compete as GB & NI rather than U.K.?
E.G Kate O'Connor the Heptathlon gold medalist competes for Ireland at all major global meets, including the Olympic Games, World Championships, and European Championships (where she just won Heptathlon gold in Birmingham).
For Northern Ireland: Because the Republic of Ireland does not participate in the Commonwealth Games, she utilizes her Newry birthright to represent Team Northern Ireland at that specific event, where she recently won gold in Glasgow.
TBF all her training and upbringing in the sport has been under the Irish system. There are NI athletes who choose GB for cultural reasons1
