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Phil Chapple Out?

WoolwichAddick
WoolwichAddick Posts: 92
edited September 20 in General Charlton

Frittered away the clubs resources at this level too often. Poor scouting and some dreadful signings. Should he go? Surely we could do so much better.

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  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 23,518
    WoolwichAddick said:

    Frittered away the clubs resources at this level too often. Poor scouting and some dreadful signings. Should he go? Surely we could do so much better.

    Very easy to forget how good some of his signings have been though

    Bell, Carey, Bree, Clarke, Dykes, Coady, Fevrier all improved us last season and Sichenje looks a good signing when not picking up injuries and Kelman definitely has a good player in there

    This season Mesík, Koumetio, Okonkwo and McNamara look good, Chalobah is quality when fit and Nkeng is one for the future.

    Yes the injury prone players is annoying but it's what we can afford. I don't think anyone else in our bit of the league are signing Mesík, Fevrier, Sichenje, Bell or McNamara but they all seem like pretty shrewd signings to me
  • BigRedEvil
    BigRedEvil Posts: 11,337
    Someone come up with our signings over the past 2 and a bit years to compare

    Does feel like anytime we spend big money they tend to disappoint. Whereas free transfers and lower fees tend to be better value 
  • Sword65pf
    Sword65pf Posts: 3,016
    edited September 19
    I’d be more inclined to ask the board exactly WTF they are playing at, are they supporting the scouts/ management enough financially to get the players of the standard needed.  It’s not looking like it to me, feels like they are pulling the ripcord 
  • Athletico Charlton
    Athletico Charlton Posts: 15,280
    edited September 19
    Our best players were all signed before he joined despite us spending something like £12-15M since he came in.

    Lloyd Jones
    TC
    Leaburn
    Coventry 
    Edwards

    Mesik and Akonkwo look good. Koumetio and Chalobah likewise but won't be fit much.
  • Gillis
    Gillis Posts: 1,130
    fenaddick said:
    WoolwichAddick said:

    Frittered away the clubs resources at this level too often. Poor scouting and some dreadful signings. Should he go? Surely we could do so much better.

    Very easy to forget how good some of his signings have been though

    Bell, Carey, Bree, Clarke, Dykes, Coady, Fevrier all improved us last season and Sichenje looks a good signing when not picking up injuries and Kelman definitely has a good player in there

    This season Mesík, Koumetio, Okonkwo and McNamara look good, Chalobah is quality when fit and Nkeng is one for the future.

    Yes the injury prone players is annoying but it's what we can afford. I don't think anyone else in our bit of the league are signing Mesík, Fevrier, Sichenje, Bell or McNamara but they all seem like pretty shrewd signings to me
    I seem to remember us signing some players that did alright at this level under Powell too.

    Charlton Life is in full on overreaction mode after today's defeat. We're going to finish September with 12 points on the board, and possibly in the playoff places. I think most of us would've taken that before the season started.
  • DDOUBLEE
    DDOUBLEE Posts: 2,859
    fenaddick said:
    WoolwichAddick said:

    Frittered away the clubs resources at this level too often. Poor scouting and some dreadful signings. Should he go? Surely we could do so much better.

    Very easy to forget how good some of his signings have been though

    Bell, Carey, Bree, Clarke, Dykes, Coady, Fevrier all improved us last season and Sichenje looks a good signing when not picking up injuries and Kelman definitely has a good player in there

    This season Mesík, Koumetio, Okonkwo and McNamara look good, Chalobah is quality when fit and Nkeng is one for the future.

    Yes the injury prone players is annoying but it's what we can afford. I don't think anyone else in our bit of the league are signing Mesík, Fevrier, Sichenje, Bell or McNamara but they all seem like pretty shrewd signings to me
    Right, that's it Fen, outside now
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 23,518
    DDOUBLEE said:
    fenaddick said:
    WoolwichAddick said:

    Frittered away the clubs resources at this level too often. Poor scouting and some dreadful signings. Should he go? Surely we could do so much better.

    Very easy to forget how good some of his signings have been though

    Bell, Carey, Bree, Clarke, Dykes, Coady, Fevrier all improved us last season and Sichenje looks a good signing when not picking up injuries and Kelman definitely has a good player in there

    This season Mesík, Koumetio, Okonkwo and McNamara look good, Chalobah is quality when fit and Nkeng is one for the future.

    Yes the injury prone players is annoying but it's what we can afford. I don't think anyone else in our bit of the league are signing Mesík, Fevrier, Sichenje, Bell or McNamara but they all seem like pretty shrewd signings to me
    Right, that's it Fen, outside now
    Put that in just for you 
  • NabySarr
    NabySarr Posts: 6,655
    Lose one game and it’s meltdown season once again ffs 
  • Briston_Addick
    Briston_Addick Posts: 14,344
    NabySarr said:
    Lose one game and it’s meltdown season once again ffs 
    It's OK because with the Sat-midweek-Sat-midweek run of matches we've only got to put up with this for a couple of days and then it's on to the ne ...



    Oh shit.

    As you were.

    See you at The Valley in a few weeks' time.
  • CafcSCP
    CafcSCP Posts: 1,512
    Tbf Ouma looks crap. Hopefully he improves to the standard quickly 

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  • Airman Brown
    Airman Brown Posts: 15,987
    Scouts make recommendations not decisions, and you may as well ask about recommendations that weren’t pursued as much as any that were.
  • Off_it
    Off_it Posts: 29,550
    What on earth is wrong with some people.......
  • Sword65pf
    Sword65pf Posts: 3,016
    Gillis said:
    fenaddick said:
    WoolwichAddick said:

    Frittered away the clubs resources at this level too often. Poor scouting and some dreadful signings. Should he go? Surely we could do so much better.

    Very easy to forget how good some of his signings have been though

    Bell, Carey, Bree, Clarke, Dykes, Coady, Fevrier all improved us last season and Sichenje looks a good signing when not picking up injuries and Kelman definitely has a good player in there

    This season Mesík, Koumetio, Okonkwo and McNamara look good, Chalobah is quality when fit and Nkeng is one for the future.

    Yes the injury prone players is annoying but it's what we can afford. I don't think anyone else in our bit of the league are signing Mesík, Fevrier, Sichenje, Bell or McNamara but they all seem like pretty shrewd signings to me
    I seem to remember us signing some players that did alright at this level under Powell too.

    Charlton Life is in full on overreaction mode after today's defeat. We're going to finish September with 12 points on the board, and possibly in the playoff places. I think most of us would've taken that before the season started.
    I agree, I think the concern is we aren’t exactly trending the right way with performances and results, can people honestly say they fancy us to win the next three games?, if we flipped our season results I’d say the conversation would be very different, however the coaching team have a few weeks to get things sorted, because if performances don’t improve on today/stoke there will be reason for meltdown. 
  • shirty5
    shirty5 Posts: 20,180
    Alli and Ouma look so out of their depths at this level you do have to wonder what the Scouting team thought when they recommended them to the management team

    Or did they? 
  • Exiled_Addick
    Exiled_Addick Posts: 18,100
    Glad to see people aren't overacting.
  • Rothko
    Rothko Posts: 19,571
    Off_it said:
    What on earth is wrong with some people.......
    Think it’s a full moon 
  • Bournesnr
    Bournesnr Posts: 335
    Here we go again writing players off less than 10 games into their Charlton careers.
    Great bunch of supporters we have.
  • CaptainRobbo
    CaptainRobbo Posts: 2,831
    Off_it said:
    What on earth is wrong with some people.......
    Got 3 weeks of this.
  • Bod
    Bod Posts: 413
    Chapple out??? What f@cking nonsense.
    Airman Brown and various others have summed things up correctly and eloquently in my opinion.
  • SporadicAddick
    SporadicAddick Posts: 7,645
    Bournesnr said:
    Here we go again writing players off less than 10 games into their Charlton careers.
    Great bunch of supporters we have.
    I think this type of discussion is typical of any club and any bunch of supporters, it’s not a Charlton thing.



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  • Crispywood
    Crispywood Posts: 2,988
    Yh because nothing screams sack worthy over 1M of transfer fees in Alli and Ouma. 

    Both are crap but it’s not like we’ve spent 20M on 5 different players and they all turned out to be rubbish 
  • jimmymelrose
    jimmymelrose Posts: 10,553
    Was a good player for us. Always committed. 

    Therefore I find this thread disrespectful.
  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 31,238
    Bournesnr said:
    Here we go again writing players off less than 10 games into their Charlton careers.
    Great bunch of supporters we have.

    It is a football thing, I'm 60 and I find fans of my generation have more patience and understanding of the game than supporters half my age.
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 23,518
    ElfsborgAddick said:
    Bournesnr said:
    Here we go again writing players off less than 10 games into their Charlton careers.
    Great bunch of supporters we have.

    It is a football thing, I'm 60 and I find fans of my generation have more patience and understanding of the game than supporters half my age.
    Which is interesting because I’m half your age and have the opposite experience. Think it’s less age and more personality 
  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 31,238
    fenaddick said:
    ElfsborgAddick said:
    Bournesnr said:
    Here we go again writing players off less than 10 games into their Charlton careers.
    Great bunch of supporters we have.

    It is a football thing, I'm 60 and I find fans of my generation have more patience and understanding of the game than supporters half my age.
    Which is interesting because I’m half your age and have the opposite experience. Think it’s less age and more personality 

    Meaning?
  • aliwibble
    aliwibble Posts: 29,990
    ElfsborgAddick said:
    fenaddick said:
    ElfsborgAddick said:
    Bournesnr said:
    Here we go again writing players off less than 10 games into their Charlton careers.
    Great bunch of supporters we have.

    It is a football thing, I'm 60 and I find fans of my generation have more patience and understanding of the game than supporters half my age.
    Which is interesting because I’m half your age and have the opposite experience. Think it’s less age and more personality 
    Meaning?
    That we have eejits of all ages on here, and that wisdom is neither the province of young or old exclusively.
  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 31,238
    aliwibble said:
    ElfsborgAddick said:
    fenaddick said:
    ElfsborgAddick said:
    Bournesnr said:
    Here we go again writing players off less than 10 games into their Charlton careers.
    Great bunch of supporters we have.

    It is a football thing, I'm 60 and I find fans of my generation have more patience and understanding of the game than supporters half my age.
    Which is interesting because I’m half your age and have the opposite experience. Think it’s less age and more personality 
    Meaning?
    That we have eejits of all ages on here, and that wisdom is neither the province of young or old exclusively.

    How many games do you give a player before they are deemed a failure?  A manager as well come to that.
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 23,518
    ElfsborgAddick said:
    fenaddick said:
    ElfsborgAddick said:
    Bournesnr said:
    Here we go again writing players off less than 10 games into their Charlton careers.
    Great bunch of supporters we have.

    It is a football thing, I'm 60 and I find fans of my generation have more patience and understanding of the game than supporters half my age.
    Which is interesting because I’m half your age and have the opposite experience. Think it’s less age and more personality 

    Meaning?
    That some people naturally have more patience than others, regardless of age 
  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 31,238
    fenaddick said:
    ElfsborgAddick said:
    fenaddick said:
    ElfsborgAddick said:
    Bournesnr said:
    Here we go again writing players off less than 10 games into their Charlton careers.
    Great bunch of supporters we have.

    It is a football thing, I'm 60 and I find fans of my generation have more patience and understanding of the game than supporters half my age.
    Which is interesting because I’m half your age and have the opposite experience. Think it’s less age and more personality 

    Meaning?
    That some people naturally have more patience than others, regardless of age 

    My take in general.
    A club sack a manager and bring another one in, they have seen that he has been successful enough to warrant giving them a job.
    After ten games the results have not gone well and they get the bullet, it happens, I do no not understand this as patience is needed and that the club saw in the manager to give him a contract.  I extend this to players and that supporters must realise the financial implications of offloading players within minutes of signing for a club.

  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 31,238
    PS, a lot of people were wanting Jones out after the Crawley home game.
    Fortunately there were other ideas with the board.

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