oohaah, that's not a maybe for me but a definite. Allowing Curbs to go after he had proved himself over years was bad enough, but then handing that dope Dowie £11 million was a disaster. Then to appoint Uncle Les instead of just asking him to hold the fort was the final straw.
[cite]Posted By: Granpa[/cite]oohaah, that's not a maybe for me but a definite. Allowing Curbs to go after he had proved himself over years was bad enough, but then handing that dope Dowie £11 million was a disaster. Then to appoint Uncle Les instead of just asking him to hold the fort was the final straw.
Yes i agree with all that but all of us would never make a mistake if we had the wonderful gift of hindsight.
[cite]Posted By: Athletico Charlton[/cite]He had a great game away at Wigan for us I seem to remember...dominant in the air, got his head on all the keepers long punts forwards ;-)
I remember that one...got drenched walking back to the station.
[cite]Posted By: Granpa[/cite]oohaah, that's not a maybe for me but a definite. Allowing Curbs to go after he had proved himself over years was bad enough, but then handing that dope Dowie £11 million was a disaster. Then to appoint Uncle Les instead of just asking him to hold the fort was the final straw.
Uncle Les was asked to hold the fort & was temporary, but we lost a few games & the press was on at us, saying that did the players want to play for him/respect him as he was only temporary. So to give Les more authority they made it permanent, although Les & Richard new it was only temporary until someone more suitable could be found.
[cite]Posted By: Athletico Charlton[/cite]He had a great game away at Wigan for us I seem to remember...dominant in the air, got his head on all the keepers long punts forwards ;-)
I remember that one...got drenched walking back to the station.
One of the worst away games I've ever had the misfortune of going to!
We were an absolute disgrace that day and Diawara was shocking.
remember a night cup game and i was sitting close to the pitch. he was like a lumbering dinosaur and looked seriously out of shape - might have been the game when RM had a pop about him.
[cite]Posted By: jimmymelrose[/cite]Diawara was crap for us because we don't play in the French league. And last night Man Utd didn't take him out of this confort zone.
Wait for the match at Old Trafford. I'm looking forward to seeing how he copes if Man Utd get lots of crosses in the box and play at a high tempo.
Agree 100%, he was totally unsuited to the high tempo of English football, he could not deal with the physicality of the game at all.
His performance at Wigan was atrocious and his "cameo" spell at home to Sheffield United was so bad that it was hard to believe he was a pro player.
Quote Covered End, #36: "Uncle Les was asked to hold the fort & was temporary, but we lost a few games & the press was on at us, saying that did the players want to play for him/respect him as he was only temporary. So to give Les more authority they made it permanent, although Les & Richard new it was only temporary until someone more suitable could be found".
I never knew this. Why would Les want to give up his regular coaching job for a temporary managership without a route back?
[cite]Posted By: Stig[/cite]Quote Covered End, #36:"Uncle Les was asked to hold the fort & was temporary, but we lost a few games & the press was on at us, saying that did the players want to play for him/respect him as he was only temporary. So to give Les more authority they made it permanent, although Les & Richard new it was only temporary until someone more suitable could be found".
I never knew this. Why would Les want to give up his regular coaching job for a temporary managership without a route back?
If a new manager came in he would probably have gone anyway as they usually want to bring in their own team (which was probably why Billy Davies had earlier turned us down, as we tried to insist that Reed was retained as coach).
If Reed had been successful in his temporary role then it could have been made permanent, but that wan't the realistic plan/expectation and as I said he was only made permanent to try and attempt to stop the media undermining him.
Les was never probably suited to management, though everyone agrees he is an excellent coach (Eddie Youds confirmed this last night).
No offence dickplumb and Covered End, but for me Uncle Les was easy to read, great Coach, nice man, but not for the difficult task of controlling overpaid stroppy footballers. There are no softies succeeding as managers in the Premiership.
Was absolutely dog breath for us, so many awful performances. Wigan away, in particular, stands out. No self-respecting defender lets the ball come that far and bounce towards their own goal - pathetic.
For that alone, I hope he at least gets conmunity service..
No offence dickplumb and Covered End, but for me Uncle Les was easy to read, great Coach, nice man, but not for the difficult task of controlling overpaid stroppy footballers. There are no softies succeeding as managers in the Premiership.
4 years they've been waiting for you to give your opinions on this Grandpa!
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Yes i agree with all that but all of us would never make a mistake if we had the wonderful gift of hindsight.
I remember that one...got drenched walking back to the station.
Diawara (The Gluvna) and Bougherra (Magic) - both playing European footy, combined cost to us was £6.5m (?).
Roughly twice the value of our current squad ?
Uncle Les was asked to hold the fort & was temporary, but we lost a few games & the press was on at us, saying that did the players want to play for him/respect him as he was only temporary. So to give Les more authority they made it permanent, although Les & Richard new it was only temporary until someone more suitable could be found.
One of the worst away games I've ever had the misfortune of going to!
We were an absolute disgrace that day and Diawara was shocking.
If you mean by "big game away" that Diawara had a good game that night at Chesterfield then I could not disagree more!!!
They were in League One and we were in the Premiership and they stuck three goals past us and our defending was horrific all night.
They equalised in injury time to send it to penalties with a long ball that our defenders left to each other.
Wait for the match at Old Trafford. I'm looking forward to seeing how he copes if Man Utd get lots of crosses in the box and play at a high tempo.
Agree 100%, he was totally unsuited to the high tempo of English football, he could not deal with the physicality of the game at all.
His performance at Wigan was atrocious and his "cameo" spell at home to Sheffield United was so bad that it was hard to believe he was a pro player.
I never knew this. Why would Les want to give up his regular coaching job for a temporary managership without a route back?
If a new manager came in he would probably have gone anyway as they usually want to bring in their own team (which was probably why Billy Davies had earlier turned us down, as we tried to insist that Reed was retained as coach).
If Reed had been successful in his temporary role then it could have been made permanent, but that wan't the realistic plan/expectation and as I said he was only made permanent to try and attempt to stop the media undermining him.
Les was never probably suited to management, though everyone agrees he is an excellent coach (Eddie Youds confirmed this last night).
For that alone, I hope he at least gets conmunity service..