I can't get my head round why you would allow the mother of your newborn twins die because of this daft religious rule.
Now I know some of you will say it's their religion etc and I respect people have their beliefs but I am sorry even you yoghurt knitters have to see this is bollox ----
As a father of a new born baby I just can't get understand it I really can't - it's very sad......
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There was a case in Canada last year (I think) where the JW parents didn't want to give their kid a life saving operation because it contradicted their faith. As far as I remember the Hospital were looking to take the case to the High Court, take the kids into care, complete the operation, and then sign the children back over to the parents.
As sad as losing your wife / mother of your child must be, to watch one of your children die because you deny them basic medical help on religious grounds, is even more startling.
Perhaps some of the CanukAddicks could update us on this.
Each to their own - the Lady made a brave decision based on what she believed to be right, but I had less sympathy with the husband who also refused permission to intercede and is now "devastated"
I understand that it is common for Hospitals in the UK to make children of Jehova's Witnesses wards of court.
My Dad gets regular visits but when he explains he has had a life saving blood transfusion they usually give up.
As an example, I can’t understand how anyone in this day of CCTV, police overkill and weaponary, actively go out to get themselves involved in football hooliganism stuff away from the ground. The possibility of prison is very real nowadays, as are the possibility of injuries that may blight the rest of your life. But people still go looking for it. You told that ‘if you have to explain why, then you’ll never understand.’
Surely this is the same ?
This is a tragic case and it is difficult if not impossible for non- Jehovahs Witnesses to understand.
We may consider him to be misguided but it could be argued the husband displayed an incredible moral strength to take an action that must have gone against his every instinct.
I wouldn't have been able to do what he did if I was a Jehovah's Witness.
They would say they have an insight into Jehovah and his teachings and 'witness' in this context is spreading the word.
Hence the well dressed people knocking on your door to speak to you and sell copies of Watchtower (I think that's what the magazine is called).
There is a certain irony (if that is the right word in this context) that women have "choice" when it comes to killing their babies via abortion yet the "choice" is questioned when they choose to kill themselves by opting out of medical treatment.
Isnt that a bit of a chicken / egg question Len?
I blame the EU myself!! ;-)
While I agree with pretty much everything that has been said, forcing treatment on someone who has, by there own free will, stated that they don't want it, doesn't sit quite right.
Because they are mentally deficient idiots who think they'll never get caught.
You're right that it was in Canada Dan, without going into loads of details and from what I can remember the JW woman had a multiple birth and one of the kids died because she refused to allow surgery under religious grounds. Now I don't like telling people what they should and shouldn't do especially when religion is involved but what really pissed me off about the situation was that the woman had taken fertility drugs prior to pregnancy that had "artificially" increased the chance of multiple birth by a countless percentage.
So she took the drugs which caused the issue but refused the surgery to solve the problem - Ridiculous.
This is a current and on-going issue for my wife as she manages operating theatres and has to get consent forms signed by everyone. JWs usually have a pre-prepared letter stating what they can and can't have - They can have plasma boosters that don't contain blood for example. Not all operations need a transfusion in any case
Children can be made a ward of court in the UK but that takes time which won't always be available in an operation. What do you to in an emergency?
Medical staff have to respect the wishes of those they are treating so other religous or personal views are taken into account as well as those of JWs. We all have a right to refuse treatment as long as are deemed to be able to make an informed decision.
Well said, almost verbatim what I was going to write.
Although I too can't understand how a religion can allow this to happen, I'm not surprised – most religions don't give a damn about the suffering they cause, in this case the poor kids who will grow up without their mother.