IF BARNSLEY STAY UP

northstandsteve

One of the big boys are going down.Either Sheff Wed,Leicester,Coventry,or Southampton are goin.So all this 2 year plan stuff be warned it could be us next year unless we turn it around quick.

paulbaconsarnie

agreed.
it's frightening thinking about clubs like leicester and soton, who we used to try and emulate.
at the end of the day, a stadium with modern facilities as a platform counts for nothing if, on the field you don't do the business. i bet coventry/soton/leicester fans would swap back to their old grounds to have the league positions of watford/palace/bristol c. (ok not soton, that was a f**king dump).

northstandsteve

We need to stop taking the theory of a 2 year plan for granted as we could quite easily drop again.

paulbaconsarnie

[cite]Posted By: northstandsteve[/cite]We need to stop taking the theory of a 2 year plan for granted as we could quite easily drop again.

and again.
it wasn't that long ago we played bradford in a premier league fixture.

right. i'm off to slit my wrists.
happy easter;-)

Kap10

I said just before Pards was appointed that we could take 5 yeqars before we got back into the Prem if we were relegated, looks like thats optimistic for the leicesters and Sotons of the world.

Big William

I don't remember anything about 2 year plans before everything went t*ts up !

northstandsteve

well a lot of people on here have been subscibing and clinging on to it for quite some time.

matt896

went to the soton coventry game, if soton go down we should buy stern john looked gd.

southamptonaddick

[quote][cite]Posted By: matt896[/cite]went to the soton coventry game, if soton go down we should buy stern john looked gd.[/quote]

Do you live down this way matt896?

Oggy Red

[cite]Posted By: Big William[/cite]I don't remember anything about 2 year plans before everything went t*ts up !

Pre-season Pards spoke of a 2 year plan to 'ensure' promotion back to the Prem.

He was talking about a more or less total rebuilding of the team - and that was before Diawarra & Reid were going to be sold - and said that what he was aiming for this season, was a playoff place.

Of course, when we found ourselves top 2 by mid-November, the pressure was on for automatic promotion as that then become the level of everybody's expectation throughout the club, from Board level to supporters.


Pardew's focus then had to be winning promotion - but with a team that he knew wasn't ready.
Hence the plethora of loan signings from Premier clubs.

No doubt his thinking was: bring in Prem squad players to temporarily provide the quality to get us promotion.
As he has freely admitted, that plan back-fired.

Alex Wright

[cite]Posted By: Oggy Red[/cite]

[cite]Posted By: Big William[/cite]I don't remember anything about 2 year plans before everything went t*ts up !

Pre-season Pards spoke of a 2 year plan to 'ensure' promotion back to the Prem.

Pre season Pards also said his teams tend to finish the season better than they start Oggy!

North Lower Neil

As an aside, if Southampton go down, we should be after Surman, I like the look of him as a player.

JohnnyH2

I presume the talk of the two year plan comes from the fact that this is the length of the parachute payments. If we do not go up in the these two years I would suspect any players we have left on Prem money will have to go, and more restructuring will be required.

Kap10

[cite]Posted By: JohnnyH2[/cite]I presume the talk of the two year plan comes from the fact that this is the length of the parachute payments. If we do not go up in the these two years I would suspect any players we have left on Prem money will have to go, and more restructuring will be required.

Faye and Bent are gone or rather will be and any way their loan clubs must be picking up the wages, otherwise only Ambrose, Holland and Thomas would be on anything near Prem wages and I suspect Holland would not be on them for much longer

F-Blocker

Holland signed a "much reduced" one year deal last summer, so that's not a worry.
Isn't Ambrose's contract up next summer? No idea about Thomas' contract.

Imissthepeanutman

I dont think it will be long before the word 'rolling' is added into the 2 year plan.

jimmymelrose

'IF BARNSLEY STAY One of the big boys are going down'

But aren't Barnsley 'one of the big boys.' They were in The Premiership not that long ago and they're in the FA Cup Semi Finals, having beat Liverpool and Chelsea.

Also I think you're forgetting that Sheff Wed have only recently come up from League 1, so them going down would surely not be such a surprise.

Oggy Red

Sheff Wed since they relegated us from the Prem in the last match of 98/99, have had a mostly rough old time of it.
But despite poor profile at the moment, still get good crowds averaging around 20,000 over the season.

If they should ever find their way back to the Prem, they could expect capacity crowds of almost 40,000 at Hillsborough, one of the 1966 World Cup Finals grounds and scene of many FA Cup semi-finals. Sheffield Wednesday, with many, many years of top flight history & FA Cup tradition - definitely a sleeping giant.

Barnsley only experienced the one season in the Prem before the inevitable happened - so hardly one of the big boys.