[cite]Posted By: Salad[/cite]if they want respect then they should show a bit more decency than to do this at someone's home - at her office etc. would be fine
She wouldn't give two hoots if they did it at her offices plus the chance of getting shot increases! I know it's a complex issue but more has to be done for the dad's who are unfairly shut out of their kids lives.
they have spent the last couple of years trying to put their point across constructively and been ignored. they do this and suddenly every news outlet wants to interview their spokesman. I can kind of understand their reasoning
fair and right we shouldnt be afraid to have peaceful protests anywhere we so wish.
we have debated on here about children whos fathers are not about through choice but what about those that are not there through choice but through the doing of an evil partner or aan unfair family court process.
[cite]Posted By: kigelia[/cite]they have spent the last couple of years trying to put their point across constructively and been ignored. they do this and suddenly every news outlet wants to interview their spokesman. I can kind of understand their reasoning
Not quite true, they have form for doing a few similar stunts - invading the House of Commons etc.
Fair play to them, for too long fathers rights and feelings have been brushed aside.
Always makes me angry, when you get a woman fighting for the right to see her kids she's a brave soul with courage and strength, if a bloke does it he's obviously a waster and a loser and should have done more in the first place.
Got a woman at work whose basically a man hater, slags all men found to be hacing affairs, ie Chris Tarrant etc, but she openly admits one of her best female friends has been having an affair for nearly 20 years, she laughs at that and thinks its funny.
Best example for me was when Jimmy Gulzar tried to take Mel B to court for maintenance and financial support when they split, all female commentators were up in arms claiming he was a rat and and had a cheek to ask for money, strange that, if he had been the celebrity with cash in the bank they would have been clamouring for her to clean him out.
What about the horrific murder ofthe two kids by their mum who had a mental illness ? The local authority demanded that the mother had a right to see the kids, they removed them from the father and their grand parents where they had been living in a loving and cared for environment and took them to the Mother. They were told and had the proofthat the woman was unstable. She murdered both kids that same nite ! She hadnt even asked for the kids back as she thought they wernt hers anyway and they were swoped at birth ! As the father said "who will pay for the death of my children?". Why was it done ? can only be that the "rights" of the mother was put before the safety ofthe kids and thherefore some sort of PC bollo*.
I think it's unbelievable that the police haven't shot any of these guys yet. Seeing how unwilling the police are to use force against men in costumes is going to give the wrong people very dangerous ideas.
how can you say the Vincenzo peacful protests for a valid reason without humilating their children by covering there faces whilst highlighting an issue with humour.
and you would deny them access to their own kids??? If that is not what you meant then i would edit the point to clarify
I hope that no one ever experiences what some of these guys have had to endure. For fecks sake there are some high and mighty folks on here
My natural instinct is to say that they are wrong to do what they did.
However this Labour Government has displayed utter contempt for proper democratic process (Bing is very pro EU I'm very anti EU yet we both agree on the need for the promised referendum) reneging on promises and completely ignoring the representations of ordinary people.
In circumstances where due process is cynically abused by Governments then people are left with no alternative but to take direct non - violent action such as has been done.
That smug cow Harman is responsible for much of the legislation which has gone a long way to destroying conventional family life for many people in this country. She is also a hypocrite. She spoke out against grammar schools and criticised those parents who try to get a grammar school education for their children. Yet she sent her own child to St Olaves in Orpington! As an aside Diane Abbott is just as bad as she did the self same thing.
Typical socialist. Don't do as I do do as I say.
I think given all the circumstances the guys have right on their side in this instance.
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She wouldn't give two hoots if they did it at her offices plus the chance of getting shot increases! I know it's a complex issue but more has to be done for the dad's who are unfairly shut out of their kids lives.
we have debated on here about children whos fathers are not about through choice but what about those that are not there through choice but through the doing of an evil partner or aan unfair family court process.
Not quite true, they have form for doing a few similar stunts - invading the House of Commons etc.
Always makes me angry, when you get a woman fighting for the right to see her kids she's a brave soul with courage and strength, if a bloke does it he's obviously a waster and a loser and should have done more in the first place.
Got a woman at work whose basically a man hater, slags all men found to be hacing affairs, ie Chris Tarrant etc, but she openly admits one of her best female friends has been having an affair for nearly 20 years, she laughs at that and thinks its funny.
Best example for me was when Jimmy Gulzar tried to take Mel B to court for maintenance and financial support when they split, all female commentators were up in arms claiming he was a rat and and had a cheek to ask for money, strange that, if he had been the celebrity with cash in the bank they would have been clamouring for her to clean him out.
Double standard hypocritical nonsense
She hadnt even asked for the kids back as she thought they wernt hers anyway and they were swoped at birth ! As the father said "who will pay for the death of my children?". Why was it done ? can only be that the "rights" of the mother was put before the safety ofthe kids and thherefore some sort of PC bollo*.
None the less, I wouldn't let them near children.
and you would deny them access to their own kids??? If that is not what you meant then i would edit the point to clarify
I hope that no one ever experiences what some of these guys have had to endure. For fecks sake there are some high and mighty folks on here
However this Labour Government has displayed utter contempt for proper democratic process (Bing is very pro EU I'm very anti EU yet we both agree on the need for the promised referendum) reneging on promises and completely ignoring the representations of ordinary people.
In circumstances where due process is cynically abused by Governments then people are left with no alternative but to take direct non - violent action such as has been done.
That smug cow Harman is responsible for much of the legislation which has gone a long way to destroying conventional family life for many people in this country. She is also a hypocrite. She spoke out against grammar schools and criticised those parents who try to get a grammar school education for their children. Yet she sent her own child to St Olaves in Orpington! As an aside Diane Abbott is just as bad as she did the self same thing.
Typical socialist. Don't do as I do do as I say.
I think given all the circumstances the guys have right on their side in this instance.