Keep reading good "reports" about him yet we never see the lad near the 1st team. It is easy for people on here to say "oh he is not good enough" blah blah - with repsect none of you have a clue whether a player can make the step up or not or whether he is good enough. You might have seen them in one game doesn't give you the know how does it.
I am getting bored of not seeing players coming through the ranks now. We always prided ourselves on having a few.
Alastair John, Lloyd Sam, Myles Weston, Nathan Ashton, Sankofa, Walker, - these boys should be knocking on the door now they are 18/19 for god sake..... Look at Aston Villa - for example - at the weekend agaisnt Wigan they must have had 4-5 in the starting line up. 2 at centre defence FFS.
The club keep banging on about Valley Gold etc but it is time to see fruits of your money isn't it.
Rommedahl, HH, M Bent, Sorondo, Lisbie, I am sure some can name others, but how many more chances do these players get. I am not saying we should put a team of kids out, that is daft, but the so called Senior Pros are not doing it time and time again.
If these "kids" are not good enough isn't it high time you people who pay into Valley Gold start questioning what the hell is done with the money you loyally pay in every month.
Or am I being harsh.
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At least we know that Robson knows the young players well having working with many of them for the pst three years either at U18 level or in the reserves.
You in Bartram's on Thursday?
of those you mention only Lloyd Sam in my opinion is good enough to make it. The others are not and will not be. Gislason is a bit younger and not ready at the moment. However, can they do any worse than the performances we saw from some on Saturday ? Unlikely and maybe it is time to risk one or two.
Large - As I said you are neither qualified nor know enough about youth football to say these lads are good enough. SorRY I don't mean to be rude but that is fact. I respect your opinion on it definitely as you seem to go to more ressie games etc than most.
If Lloyd Sam was that good how come he struggled as Sheff Weds? H e did not make much of an impact did he.
The numbers coming through to the first team have been underwhelming.
Lloyd Sam, Sankofa...then who? Who was the last player before that to make it through from the reserves? Even Sam & Sankofa only have a handful of games between them.
I am asking why none of our yougsters are knocking on the door of the 1st team and that Valley Gold subscribers surely have the right to start questioning where their money is being spent..
We supposedly have a few promising youngsters - my list of players for example - I am merely quoting what I have read over the last couple of years, they are about as close to the 1st team as I am. A few sub appearances here or there. Sankofa got a couple of run outs at the end of last season as Curbs knew he was leaving, we were safe so sod it why not.
I used the Aston Villa example - they weren't much better than us last season. They get a new manager - he brings in Cahill, Ogbonlahor, Ridgwell ( i know o'dreary picked him last season), Isiiah Obourne, Peter Whittingham from the youth
Could you honestly see us having 5 - I don't know - I don't go to reserve games. When the reserves play you hear the names of the players I listed being moentioned a lot but when it comes to the 1st team - WHERE ARE THEY.
2. They will be fighting for themselves and for the team - they won't care who the manager is if they are picked so I say give them a go
the lad deserves a chance, the senior one in front of him is consistently underperforming, and if he knows he can put in as lacklustre performance as saturday, and still hold his place, then he will continue to underperform IMO.
I'm still hoping that Pouso gets in the team as he is, on paper, what we need and seemed as if he was getting stuck in yesterday. Kish, Pouso and Reid in the Middle, Sam and Thomas wide and baby Bent upfront. Young, Diawara, Faye and Traore at the back with Carson in goal? Romm, Myhre, HH, Hughes and Walker on the bench. This is the way forward and I'm ringing Les this PM to tell him so.
Like to see that you stole my original ideas from another post and made more of it because your a more well known poster!
I agree with everything you say here, M Bent, Sorondo, Lisbie, Hughes... none of these really deserve first team status so give the others a go, i'm sure they can't do much worse... infact they can't as we are bottom of the league!
Llyod sam is 21+ now, which isn't young these days as a footballer.
We have alot of quality in our academy, I watched quite a few of the U18 games last season as I had a mate who played for them he didn't get a professional deal though.
I must say that I would easily give a go:
Myles Weston (If he wasn't injured at the start of the campaign he would be involved by now)
Harry Arter (Alot of class)
Josh Wright (Good midfielder and set piece taker, rate highly)
Donovan Simmonds (New he would have a bright start to this season he looked last year)
Jani Tanksa (Needs to be go out on loan)
What you think Mr Reed?
Like to see that you stole my original ideas from another post and made more of it because your a more well known poster!
I agree with everything you say here, M Bent, Sorondo, Lisbie, Hughes... none of these really deserve first team status so give the others a go, i'm sure they can't do much worse... infact they can't as we are bottom of the league!
Llyod sam is 21+ now, which isn't young these days as a footballer.
We have alot of quality in our academy, I watched quite a few of the U18 games last season as I had a mate who played for them he didn't get a professional deal though.
I must say that I would easily give a go:
Myles Weston (If he wasn't injured at the start of the campaign he would be involved by now)
Harry Arter (Alot of class)
Josh Wright (Good midfielder and set piece taker, rate highly)
Donovan Simmonds (New he would have a bright start to this season he looked last year)
Jani Tanksa (Needs to be go out on loan)
What you think Mr Reed?
They may be quality for the reserves or u18s but even Lisbie used to do alright for the reserves but look at him in the prem, that difference in standards is immense.
I must be the only person who thinks Sorondo is actually a decent player? Much rather have him instead of El K & Fortune any day, hardly been given many chances with the injuries has he? Harsh on him IMO.
At the end of the day if the management thought they were good enough to play then why would be in the side.
when you say "If the management thought they were good enough" that could mean that Dowie didnt think they were. One game in under Reed and Robson and we have already seen Llyod Sam make hes first premiership start of the season. So maybe a sign of things to come under Reed.
CLAPTRAP!!!
Point about Sorondo is that he MIGHT be a good player, but the fact is that he has spent the best part of three seasons sitting in the treatment room flicking through Uruguayan porno mags (FACT, by the way), which is no good to man or beast (which brings us neatly back to the Uruguayan porno mags again, FACT!!!) - and certainly no good to Charlton.
Wonder how much green he has picked up these past few years and how much it works out at per minute of competitive football.
Don't get me wrong. I DO think Sorondo has got promise, and he's got to be better than that clown El Karkouri, but it just seems to me as if he's NEVER going to be fully fit for very long. What's he played - 8 games out of the last 50/60?
I saw Tanska and Wright play for u18 last season when I was one of the linesman and, along with Sheku who we have let go to Warford, they impressed me but it was only 1 game.
As for Reed I like the fact he is a CHARLTON man and a fan to boot. BUT he's got to get proper ruthless and NOW. Rommedahl has to be dropped despite the fact I absolutely love him when he is in full flight but that is not happening enough.
I know this doesn't answer you point about Villa, but it seems that we're trying to blood players at lower league clubs on loan more. I think reserve football doesn't have that edge to it as the points don't mean as much as they do in league football. I'd go as far as to say it could even improve them mentally as much as anything?
Sorondo has looked quite good in his cameos for us and I would really like to see him make progress; the rest of the season alongside Diawara would be a start...
Traore in at left back, Gibbs on the bench; what else can we hope for.
Llloyd Sam is a question, not making it in the rough and tumble of the Championship which is sooo different from the Prem is no real indication, and did Sheff Wed really want to let him come back?