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Oi! Rothko - Sort it out!

Henry Irving
Henry Irving Posts: 85,268
edited October 2008 in General Charlton
Come on, what have you and the fans forum actually done?






Congratulations Sacha and to the other fans' forum members. Keep the faith.
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  • SoundAsa£
    SoundAsa£ Posts: 22,495
    edited October 2008
    ?
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,268
    edited October 2008
    Read the programme!
  • Off_it
    Off_it Posts: 28,902
    Have say, they looked like a right motley crew. Also, not sure I like the fact that the election idea was scrapped because of "a change of heart" by the club. Call me cynical, but it sounds suspiciously like a carve up.

    Do any of them post on here?
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,268
    edited October 2008
    Rothko does.
  • Off_it
    Off_it Posts: 28,902
    edited October 2008
    Wasn't counting him. I meant any of the others?
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,268
    edited October 2008
    Don't know but that is maybe a good thing. Charlton Life is not Charlton. (sorry AFKA/Lookie)
  • Off_it
    Off_it Posts: 28,902
    I reckon they should've invited a regular poster from Intothevalley onto the forum. In fact THE regular poster.

    That would've been a laugh - for about ..... ooooooh, 10 seconds!
  • SoundAsa£
    SoundAsa£ Posts: 22,495
    I don't buy or read football programmes...never have and never will...sorry.
  • Off_it
    Off_it Posts: 28,902
    [cite]Posted By: SoundAsa£[/cite]I don't buy or read football programmes...never have and never will...sorry.

    But then how do you keep up to speed with the women's side then SoundAs, not to mention Kelly Youga's take on the world around him? It's dreadfully exciting stuff!
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,268
    [cite]Posted By: Off_it[/cite]I reckon they should've invited a regular poster from Intothevalley onto the forum. In fact THE regular poster.

    That would've been a laugh - for about ..... ooooooh, 10 seconds!

    LOL

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  • LoOkOuT
    LoOkOuT Posts: 10,865
    [cite]Posted By: Off_it[/cite] Also, not sure I like the fact that the election idea was scrapped because of "a change of heart" by the club. Call me cynical, but it sounds suspiciously like a carve up.

    Well done Rothko.

    How were they chosen, if not by ballot?
  • Off_it
    Off_it Posts: 28,902
    It says in the programme that the people who put themselves forward were interviewed and then a decision was made as to the lucky six punters. Dunno who decided exactly. Maybe our new representative could enlighten us?

    Oi Rothko .......... sort it out. Henry would've been on here with a full and detailed explanation by now!
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,268
    edited October 2008
    Yeah, that's right. Sort it out Rothko!

    Power gone to his head I reckon. One evening hob-nobbing with the likes of Steve Waggott and David White and now he's too good to come on here : - )
  • Off_it
    Off_it Posts: 28,902
    edited October 2008
    He probably got mullered on tizer in the directors box and is sleeping it off at the moment.
  • F-Blocker
    F-Blocker Posts: 3,409
    [cite]Posted By: Off_it[/cite]It says in the programme that the people who put themselves forward were interviewed and then a decision was made as to the lucky six punters. Dunno who decided exactly. Maybe our new representative could enlighten us?

    Oi Rothko .......... sort it out. Henry would've been on here with a full and detailed explanation by now!
    Perhaps there were only 6 applicants.....
  • BDL
    BDL Posts: 6,001
    Does it mean that the Robin costume will be coming back?
  • bingaddick
    bingaddick Posts: 8,184
    [cite]Posted By: Off_it[/cite]It says in the programme that the people who put themselves forward were interviewed and then a decision was made as to the lucky six punters. Dunno who decided exactly

    Did they have to pledge be kind to furry animals, in favour of world peace and want spend a lot of time helping others and raising money for charity?......:o)

    In all seriousness, whilst I can understand the interview rather than ballot, process, it does make you wonder who they were trying to weed out, unless it was people who endlessly refer to holes in the car park or street parties?
  • ChicagoAddick
    ChicagoAddick Posts: 4,398
    Can someone tell us the full list of chosen members?
  • Rothko
    Rothko Posts: 18,814
    I was busy people!

    I don't know the reasoning why they didn't go to election, I suppose they wanted to keep the representation across the 3 stands. Ben was on the panel who decided that it didn't go to election.
  • Rothko
    Rothko Posts: 18,814
    BTW thanks to those nice words saying well done

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  • Medders
    Medders Posts: 5,572
    How long until the West Stand car park is turned into a giant cycle park?
  • northstandsteve
    northstandsteve Posts: 14,332
    [cite]Posted By: Rothko[/cite]I was busy people!

    I don't know the reasoning why they didn't go to election, I suppose they wanted to keep the representation across the 3 stands. Ben was on the panel who decided that it didn't go to election.

    now we know how you got in
  • Goonerhater
    Goonerhater Posts: 12,677
    What was the primary reason for going from an elected Fans Director to an unelected forum ?

    I probably missed it by why did the club want to move away from having a Fans Director ?
  • Weegie Addick
    Weegie Addick Posts: 16,548
    [cite]Posted By: Goonerhater[/cite]What was the primary reason for going from an elected Fans Director to an unelected forum ?

    I probably missed it by why did the club want to move away from having a Fans Director ?

    The 'excuse' - and I genuinely believe it to be that - is that changes in corporate law mean it is too onerous a legal burden on a fan to be a proper director.

    I've no idea what the 'truth' is, but I imagine a combination of the following:

    - new directors at Charlton less comfortable with the concept
    - having a fans director might get in the way of a prospective takeover
    - Henry moaned too much about the workload being more than one person could handle ;-)

    Congrats, Rothko, on getting involved. From reading the pen portraits in the prog, I have little doubt that all the representatives have good intentions of trying to raise issues with the Club.

    However, for me the main purpose of the role wasn't to help directors listen to fans, but conversely to make sure that the fans knew that the directors weren't planning stuff that would be at odds with the culture and history of our football club. I'm afraid we have lost that comfort blanket now....
  • razil
    razil Posts: 15,041
    well done rothko.

    Can't say I'm impressed with the way this was done though, nor surprised.

    :)
  • Brunello
    Brunello Posts: 1,950
    edited October 2008
    Why not out of interest? Sorry but I'm bored at work.
  • AFKABartram
    AFKABartram Posts: 57,867
    [cite]Posted By: Weegie Addick[/cite]
    However, for me the main purpose of the role wasn't to help directors listen to fans, but conversely to make sure that the fans knew that the directors weren't planning stuff that would be at odds with the culture and history of our football club. I'm afraid we have lost that comfort blanket now....

    I think you do have a certain point there, though i would say it was A reason, not THE reason.

    However, the fact that Henry only found out about the takeover approach by someone on here watching Sky Sports, kind of shows that that was never really in play.........
  • Off_it
    Off_it Posts: 28,902
    edited October 2008
    As far as I recall from when it first came in, the role of the fans director was to be a link between fans and the club so that the club could keep it's finger on the pulse of what the fans were thinking and the fans could feel more included and part of the club as information was disseminated outwards. That said, I don't suppose there was ever a job description written down, so who knows.

    What has certainly changed over the years is that peoples expectations of what the fans director should or could be doing has probably veered off significiantly from what they can actually realistically be expected to do.

    Helping with the flags campaign, feeding back on the shite beer on offer, trying to get a place for smokers to go and do their evil business is one thing, but do people really expect to be told the goings on at every board meeting, every training ground bust-up, every negotiation with club we're maybe buying a player from.

    Unfortunately expectation levels in certain quarters appear to have "pushed on to the next level". Well, at least something did I spose.
  • Weegie Addick
    Weegie Addick Posts: 16,548
    "do people really expect to be told the goings on at every board meeting, every training ground bust-up, every negotiation with club we're maybe buying a player from."

    I don't expect anything of the sort. I did, however, very much like the idea that there was a fan 'in the know' re board discussions, and I mean the board of the football club, not the PLC (so not really a surprise that Ben wasn't aware of the takeover). We have now lost that, and for me personally, that is quite a big loss, and has removed one of the key things that made Charlton a bit different from most other football clubs.

    I wish the fans forum lots of success, but think it will become, at best, a way to raise issues regarding atmosphere, service, treatment of fans, size of fan base - all important issues, but a completely different concept to a fans' director IMHO.
  • Goonerhater
    Goonerhater Posts: 12,677
    thats wot i feel as well. Forum good luck but we lost something when we lost The Director

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