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result aside, i'm a lot more confident for the rest of the season now

letthegoodtimesroll
letthegoodtimesroll Posts: 10,777
edited January 2009 in General Charlton
players passing to each other, looking up before they pass (forward - need to work on 100% concentration for the passing back a little bit), not afraid to try some tricks (shows confidence is surfacing again), some good tackling...not sure what andy gray brings to the game that late on when we needed somebody to attack, not somebody to hold and i suspect parky may have told ambrose to fill the bouzza role, hence why he seemed to go missing a bit too often for my liking - do your own thing darren and get involved, its a great game when you're in the thick of it. leave the watching to us...all in all, i thought we had a team on the pitch yesterday...things are looking up...

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  • Do me a favour.
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,562
    [cite]Posted By: Robbo on the wing[/cite]Do me a favour.

    What? This post and Weegie's post seem very confident?
  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 32,932
    some people are easily pleased.
  • [quote][cite]Posted By: LargeAddick[/cite]some people are easily pleased.[/quote]

    and some people dont lay down and die...
  • nigel
    nigel Posts: 2,454
    ''and some people dont lay down and die... ''

    I agree it's much better to die on our feet. I certainly want to see us restore a bit of pride with some battling spirit and nerver-say-die football and may be even break this run and sneak one or two victories before we go down.
  • failure to score and a couple of moments of slipped concentration are masking the fact that we had a team out there yesterday playing some good football that on a good day could have seen us comfortably win 4 - 0...on the strength of that performance i've a sneaky feeling that an appearance in the 4th round of the cup is on the cards...
  • a cup final and relegation in one season. didnt that happen to middlesborough a while ago?
  • BexleyRed
    BexleyRed Posts: 643
    Thats the problem though, It doesn't matter how well we play If we dont take our chances when we get them, and give away poor goals, we'll never win.
  • Algarveaddick
    Algarveaddick Posts: 21,332
    In recent weeks I have seen us throw away one point at QPR, two points against Southampton, two points against Derby and by all accounts, three points yesterday.

    In each game there seemed to be a lot to be optimistic about, only for following performances to be sub-standard.

    I just don't see us turning it around.
  • " I don't think its funny no more".

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  • Exiled_Addick
    Exiled_Addick Posts: 17,230
    To be fair, have a look at these stats:

    Did we really dominate like that?

    They would suggest we were on top for most of the game, although I have to admit it didn't always feel like that watching from the stands. I think a lot of people's pereception of our performances are being affected by our form and just how far into despair we each have fallen as individuals. If we were mid table and had won a game or three since Christmas I don't think people would be nearly as damning of yesterdays performance as they have been. Understandably, no one's gonna be happy until we get three points, but we're really not THAT far away. Our all round performance was pretty good, but we'll obvioulsy get nowhere missing 2 one on ones and making two terrible defensive errors in every match.
  • [cite]Posted By: The Prince-e-Paul[/cite]a cup final and relegation in one season. didnt that happen to middlesborough a while ago?

    Boro got to both cup finals, lost both of em and got relagated.
  • DRAddick
    DRAddick Posts: 3,595
    I can understand the feelings behind this thread i've held onto the same feelings throughout the season. Trouble is there's been several times where we have taken positives from it and felt we could push on. We've been "not that far away" so many times.....never happens though.

    I for one now no longer have any optimism left, yesterday finally beat it out of me. Not proud to now have the same confidence and mental resiliance as our players, but i'm overcome with annoying realism.
  • Exiled_Addick
    Exiled_Addick Posts: 17,230
    I'm not sure even Oggy could feel confident about our survival chances anymore DR, but stranger things have happened and there is no reason for anyone to become totally blind with grief to the things the team have managed to get right since Pards was sacked.

    Each to their own, I suppose, but I think I'd have topped myself by now if I couldn't find some way to see the good things we've done as well as the bad.
  • ColinTat
    ColinTat Posts: 2,794
    If we get Spring and Bailey together that's OK. Both can create around 4-5 chances and score around five goals a season; and people think Thomas or Ambrose are worth twenty grand a week to do that even after their laziness gives away more than that.

    It's a shame Shelvey can't play on the wing, but a midfield three with the above two and Shelves could do it for us. Gray can't play on his own up front whilst Burton can't score on his own up front. Of course playing Dickson with players who create chances just wouldn't do.

    So how do you score more than one goal a game every other game? Don't play 4-5-1. Play two up front with Mouta as a wing back and 3-5-2.

    It'll never happen we'll continue playing 4-5-1, even though we don't have a striker to do it. Now is 3-5-2 a solution? Don't know but a manager who continues to play a formation that is proved to not work for us is really worthy of the Pardew prize for King Prat of the year. So why would you trust that man to swap high paid good to bad players for lower paid average to good players?
  • gray cant play upfront atall let alone on his own.......
  • Chunes
    Chunes Posts: 17,587
    [cite]Posted By: The Red Tadpole[/cite]gray cant play upfront atall let alone on his own.......

    I'll second this.
  • Exiled_Addick
    Exiled_Addick Posts: 17,230
    Well Col, you seem to have quite a lot of faith that he's done just that in signing Spring so perhaps you've answered your own question?
  • Weegie Addick
    Weegie Addick Posts: 16,671
    [cite]Posted By: Chunes[/cite]
    [cite]Posted By: The Red Tadpole[/cite]gray cant play upfront atall let alone on his own.......

    I'll second this.

    I'll third it
  • pilchard
    pilchard Posts: 3,763
    I'll fourth it.

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  • Screamer
    Screamer Posts: 728
    Yeah we are playing better but we can't defend or score. It's that simple. I still maintain we won't win again this season.
  • supaclive
    supaclive Posts: 6,528
    Playing better should be judged against the points you attain and the opposition

    We appear to be competing better - but we've played an awful lot of shit in the last 10 games - sides in the bottom half, YET we've still earnt less points

    So, actually we are playing WORSE
  • DA9
    DA9 Posts: 11,109
    Lloyd Sam is a show pony to me, all show, no substance, saw nothing on Saturday to change my mind, couldn't cross a road the fella.

    Spring looked solid enough, not a bad debut considering (you sure him & Bryan Hughes were not seperated at birth?)

    Shelvey, different class, Murty was dependable, Fortune, always liked him, Hudson showed some real steel as well, shame about the cock ups for the goals.

    Burton.....go for one please, average at best.
  • BigRedEvil
    BigRedEvil Posts: 11,126
    All forgetting Racon. Everytime I've seen him he is our best midfield player. Did well at Brighton in League one last season as well, will hopefully be a big player for us next season
  • boogica
    boogica Posts: 2,321
    the bottom line is we need an out and out goalscorer and we aint got one , forest had two goalscorers and guess what they scored ,our forwards are shite and if we still feel we might av a slim chance of staying up the board need to get their heads out of their backsides and go and get a forward who might give us some hope of staying up .
  • DA9
    DA9 Posts: 11,109
    Anyone know what happened with Semedo, is it serious?
  • I think Boogica is right - we don't have a striker at the club.

    The chance Burton missed in the first minute was with hindsight the game turner - if he'd put that in we might have scored two more before half-time and blown them away.

    For all the possession we had we didn't create many if any other clear-cut chances and yes their keeper made three good saves (shelvey, Hudson and Ambrose at the end) but they were all shots straight at him

    Murty looked poor to me - very rusty and short of match sharpness. He has to take a portion of the blame for the first goal - should called for the header so Hudson left it to him and his crossing in the second-half was very average...