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Is it just me

edited February 2009 in Not Sports Related
or has television declined to an all time low. Cooking, DIY or abuse of fat people in their pants (and bra where applicable)*.

Where is the sport, the dramas the documentaries?

Just what does my licence fee pay for?

* Again is it just me but fat people and Jews appear able to be abused unmercifully without the PC Brigade uttering a word.

ps too resigned to our fate to discuss the football at the moment!
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  • Normally hate what i perceive to be winging posts about all that is wrong nowadays codswallop.

    And then i read the BBC are doing a programme on Jodie Marsh, and paying her handsomely in the process.
  • The BBC, and let's face it it's them who get our money, are too busy employing smug little grasses like Adrian Bloody Chiles who went and told Miss that naughty Carol said ........wait for it......off air.....in private...

    GOLLYWOG!

    And certainly not in the Big Ron way, just describing someones hair.
  • edited February 2009
    Anyway, just watch ITV4 on Tuesday nights and you get Minder -The REAL one, and IMO the best Com/Dra of all time.....Auf Wiedersehen Pet.
  • Let's face it, if everyone got the tin tack for saying something in private that a colleague found offensive then there'd be more out of work than in at any one time.

    Ridiculous really. But I guess the BBC are very sensitive about there image and public perception these days, rightly or wrongly.
  • Whats ITV?
  • Think bar a few decent shows and footie, TV is shockingly poor especially with how much you pay for your licence and monthly payments to Sky. I want to cancel Sky but the wife doesn't want to lose the footie!
  • [cite]Posted By: LenGlover[/cite]or has television declined to an all time low. Cooking, DIY or abuse of fat people in their pants (and bra where applicable)*.

    Where is the sport, the dramas the documentaries?

    Just what does my licence fee pay for?

    * Again is it just me but fat people and Jews appear able to be abused unmercifully without the PC Brigade uttering a word.

    ps too resigned to our fate to discuss the football at the moment!


    Not so sure about Jews, but fat people are the new politically-correct sanctioned hate-figures. Especially poor, white fat people. TV is mind-rotting nonsense and is deliberately designed to be so, in order to keep the people entertained at the lowest, most base level, and thereby ignorant of the evil con-tricks being pulled by the present government and it's Eurofanatic, Globalist, Marxist pals. Bread and circuses mate, bread and circuses!
  • Gotta agree, but theres some good stuff on in America (dramas on HBO, etc) remember, shame that over here we've become resigned to watching absolute rubbish.

    ...also, sorry mate but is "and thereby ignorant of the evil con-tricks being pulled by the present government and it's Eurofanatic, Globalist, Marxist pals." a joke?
  • edited February 2009
    [cite]Posted By: Eltham[/cite]
    [cite]Posted By: LenGlover[/cite]or has television declined to an all time low. Cooking, DIY or abuse of fat people in their pants (and bra where applicable)*.

    Where is the sport, the dramas the documentaries?

    Just what does my licence fee pay for?

    *Again is it just me but fat people and Jews appear able to be abused unmercifully without the PC Brigade uttering a word.

    ps too resigned to our fate to discuss the football at the moment!


    Not so sure about Jews, but fat people are the new politically-correct sanctioned hate-figures. Especially poor, white fat people. TV is mind-rotting nonsense and is deliberately designed to be so, in order to keep the people entertained at the lowest, most base level, and thereby ignorant of the evil con-tricks being pulled by the present government and it's Eurofanatic, Globalist, Marxist pals. Bread and circuses mate, bread and circuses!

    Ha ha, funniest post in ages. "...ignorant of the evil con-tricks being pulled by the present government and it's Eurofanatic, Globalist, Marxist pals. Bread and circuses mate, bread and circuses!" If you think that either the BBC or the Govt are are Marxist, then you really do need your bumps felt. The remit of both of those organisations is to preserve the status quo; not exactly very Marxist is it?
  • Television has got progresively worse over the years. Nature programes aside it is hard to see what the BBC make well anymore. Perhaps this has a great deal to do with the new BBC channels. Do we really need BBC 3? All it really shows is repeats of East enders and new comedies, alot of which are rubbish. We already had BBC 2 for this purpose. Also i believe the inflated wages of T.V. and radio personalities has its part to play. (How Chris Moyles gets paid as much as he does for repeating the same joke over and over for 2 weeks is beyond me.)

    Maybe it is about time that the T.V. license is abandoned. That way BBC channels would have to compete for advertising and could not just rely on money handed to them on a plate. If you don't have hit shows you don't get the advertising big bucks.

    If you do not use gas, you do not have to pay for it. Yet i have a television and do not watch BBC, why should i have to pay them?
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  • edited February 2009
    TV has become practically impossible to watch. It's just an endless stream of micro "celebrities" doing stuff; cooking, skating; dancing, eating, wearing clothes, having a holiday, baby, makeover or swim. I watched the old Morecambe and Wise shows a couple of weeks ago, the word genius doesn't come close to what they did.

    As for sport, I couldn't help nearly choking on my morning buttery crumpet when I saw Virgin media were offering a combined Setanta/Sky sports package for "..only £38.50 a month!". No wonder Sky can afford to pay the premier league £1000000000 for the rights, god knows what Setanta are paying them.

    I've started using online "on demand" TV. At least that way I can watch what I want to watch whenever I want to watch it and avoid the talentless, complete and utter crap churned out on a daily basis. The internet oand on-demand services are the future of TV.
  • edited February 2009
    [cite]Posted By: Stig[/cite]
    [cite]Posted By: Eltham[/cite]
    [cite]Posted By: LenGlover[/cite]or has television declined to an all time low. Cooking, DIY or abuse of fat people in their pants (and bra where applicable)*.

    Where is the sport, the dramas the documentaries?

    Just what does my licence fee pay for?

    *Again is it just me but fat people and Jews appear able to be abused unmercifully without the PC Brigade uttering a word.

    ps too resigned to our fate to discuss the football at the moment!


    Not so sure about Jews, but fat people are the new politically-correct sanctioned hate-figures. Especially poor, white fat people. TV is mind-rotting nonsense and is deliberately designed to be so, in order to keep the people entertained at the lowest, most base level, and thereby ignorant of the evil con-tricks being pulled by the present government and it's Eurofanatic, Globalist, Marxist pals. Bread and circuses mate, bread and circuses!

    Ha ha, funniest post in ages. "...ignorant of the evil con-tricks being pulled by the present government and it's Eurofanatic, Globalist, Marxist pals. Bread and circuses mate, bread and circuses!" If you think that either the BBC or the Govt are are Marxist, then you really do need your bumps felt. The remit of both of those organisations is to preserve the status quo; not exactly very Marxist is it?

    It's certainly Marxist in it's "all opposition will be ignored or crushed" attitude. All this government has done since it's election in 1997 is attack the foundations of our society, from gay marriage and attacks on the traditional family, to Identity cards, to ludicrous open-door immigration and openly EU fanatic foreign and financial policies. That is the essence of Marxism. I detest Marxists. Are you one?
  • edited February 2009
    Wasn't TV once described as opium for the masses ?


    By all accounts, there appears to be a huge swathe of the population who spend most of their free time passively blobbed out in front of the telly, soaking up wall to wall programmes.

    Talk to some of them through work connections, etc and the soaps and other stuff represent the highlights of their day. That's their life, their choice, I suppose.

    But in this day and age, there's a fabulous choice of things to do, things to be involved in, including for the disabled and lonely.

    I'm only generalising of course - appreciate some may have specific individual challenges.
  • The Revolution will not be televised (Marxist or otherwise)

    TV is poor but then it always was. All the talent shows now, Opportunity Knocks and New Faces then. For every porridge or Steptoe there were dozens of terrible "comedy" shows like Mind Your Language. Soaps have been going for as long as TV and before (the Archers) so nothing has really changed.

    Master Chef seems to be on every night but that's OK. It's quite good in small doses, Lady Irving loves it, and there are another 57 channels (and nothing on).

    Still some good stuff on TV IMHO. In past few days there was the David Attenbrough programme on Darwin (BBC at its best) and the new series of Who do you think you are? with Rory Bremner.

    And all those real cops shows when you see the car chases in Grimsby and street fights in Bradford. So cheap, so voyeuristic, but so much fun and they beat watching SSN (well they did after half time)


    PS One point for each of the music references ; - )
  • There is a wide variety of stuff on, more low quaility than high quailty I would say but still plenty of good quality stuff. If you want good drama it is there. If you want programmes to inspire your cooking or help you improve your health then they are there too. Perhaps you want to watch the latest David Attenborough series on Charles Darwin or the Evan Dando programmes on The City and the credit crisis. The choice is yours, if you don't like programmes about health don't watch them.


    Just this week there were two brand new dramas Whitechapel was okay this week, and at the same time there was Moses Jones which I didn't watch but looks good.

    The three-parter in January, Unforgiven, was excellent and the current series of Trial and Retribution is very good (even though I have an aversion to Ms Smurfit).

    Spooks is always good, Gavin & Stacey has been brilliant recently, and there has been plenty more to choose from recently like The Tudors and The Devil's Whore.
  • edited February 2009
    [cite]Posted By: mart77[/cite] I want to cancel Sky but the wife doesn't want to lose the footie!

    are you sure ; - )
  • It's certainly Marxist in it's "all opposition will be ignored or crushed" attitude.

    Like that famous Marxist Hitler? If you can have a proper look at things, it all started with that other famous marxist, Margaret Thatcher. Another well known leftie - Ted heath - took us into the EU. I know it spoils your pub conversations, but Brown isn't soley to blame for every evil in the world despite what your newspaper tells you to think. When people finally get it into their heads that the problem has nothing to do with which rosette your Dad wore, but is to do with the government, regardless of what political leaning they claim to have, then something might actually change.
  • [cite]Posted By: millaphile[/cite]Television has got progresively worse over the years. Nature programes aside it is hard to see what the BBC make well anymore. Perhaps this has a great deal to do with the new BBC channels. Do we really need BBC 3? All it really shows is repeats of East enders and new comedies, alot of which are rubbish. We already had BBC 2 for this purpose. Also i believe the inflated wages of T.V. and radio personalities has its part to play. (How Chris Moyles gets paid as much as he does for repeating the same joke over and over for 2 weeks is beyond me.)

    Maybe it is about time that the T.V. license is abandoned. That way BBC channels would have to compete for advertising and could not just rely on money handed to them on a plate. If you don't have hit shows you don't get the advertising big bucks.

    If you do not use gas, you do not have to pay for it. Yet i have a television and do not watch BBC, why should i have to pay them?

    I don't have kids, but my taxes pay for their education, health, child benefit and to clear up after they have vandalised stuff, and it's a darn sight more than the cost of the license fee.

    The BBC must remain as it is, so many programmes that would not have survived on a commercial channel have become classics, Men Behaving Badly (actually dropped by ITV before the Beeb took up the mantle) and Only Fools and Horses to name just two.

    There is still a fair bit of decent TV about, if you watch with an open mind and a bit of imagination.

    There is also a lot of dross, I agree - all the "reality" crap to keep the Sun readers slumped in front of the telly for example. You just have to pick and choose what you watch. I advise anyone who really cares about what they watch to buy the Radio Times every week, and read it properly. I have often found out about programmes that a quick glance at the title in the paper would never have lead me to watch.
  • "Master Chef seems to be on every night but that's OK. It's quite good in small doses, Lady Irving loves it, and there are another 57 channels (and nothing on)."
    Henry, is that wise in this weather? Whatever your age you should try to keep warm in the current conditions!
  • If you think its bad in the uk you should see it here in Asia.
    When they show a movie it is on 2 discs that some monkey putts into a player and broadcasts to the nation and 50% of the time when he changes discs he puts the first one on again.
    They also showed the series Dr Martin which I love , but for FOUR weeks yes FOUR weeks they showed the first episode..Ho-Hum...
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  • I tuned into " Naked TV", the other day but there was nothing on.
  • edited February 2009
    [cite]Posted By: Algarveaddick[/cite]
    It's certainly Marxist in it's "all opposition will be ignored or crushed" attitude.

    Like that famous Marxist Hitler? If you can have a proper look at things, it all started with that other famous marxist, Margaret Thatcher. Another well known leftie - Ted heath - took us into the EU. I know it spoils your pub conversations, but Brown isn't soley to blame for every evil in the world despite what your newspaper tells you to think. When people finally get it into their heads that the problem has nothing to do with which rosette your Dad wore, but is to do with the government, regardless of what political leaning they claim to have, then something might actually change.

    Firstly, I don't buy a newspaper, never have regularly, I tend to use the internet for news. Thatcher was a evil old cow and Heath is probably the greatest traitor and snakeoil salesman in British history. Brown isn't responsible for every evil in the world but he is at the heart of most of what is wrong with Britain today. My Dad was a Labour man through and through, I can't stand any of the "Big Three" aka the "One party with three names" in Parliament. Hope that clears things up. Oh btw, Adolf Hitler=Utter idiot. Took a destitute and demoralised Germany, turned it into the society with the highest living standards in Europe, then blew it all away in a stupid, aviodable war which Germany could never have hoped to win. As for his politics, well it wasn't called National Socialism for nothing!
  • What I don't like is Sky Sports news, which just shows the same thing all day long! Radio 5 or Talksport are far better for sports, long live the radio!
  • [cite]Posted By: Eltham[/cite]
    [cite]Posted By: Algarveaddick[/cite]
    It's certainly Marxist in it's "all opposition will be ignored or crushed" attitude.

    Like that famous Marxist Hitler? If you can have a proper look at things, it all started with that other famous marxist, Margaret Thatcher. Another well known leftie - Ted heath - took us into the EU. I know it spoils your pub conversations, but Brown isn't soley to blame for every evil in the world despite what your newspaper tells you to think. When people finally get it into their heads that the problem has nothing to do with which rosette your Dad wore, but is to do with the government, regardless of what political leaning they claim to have, then something might actually change.

    Firstly, I don't buy a newspaper, never have regularly, I tend to use the internet for news. Thatcher was a evil old cow and Heath is probably the greatest traitor and snakeoil salesman in British history. Brown isn't responsible for every evil in the world but he is at the heart of most of what is wrong with Britain today. My Dad was a Labour man through and through, I can't stand any of the "Big Three" aka the "One party with three names" in Parliament. Hope that clears things up. Oh btw, Adolf Hitler=Utter idiot. Took a destitute and demoralised Germany, turned it into the society with the highest living standards in Europe, then blew it all away in a stupid, aviodable war which Germany could never have hoped to win. As for his politics, well it wasn't called NationalSocialismfor nothing!

    Clears things up nicely Eltham, I have misjudged the tone of your post. You are obviously very much a man after my own heart, and I apologise.
  • is it just me... or is everything just shit?
  • [cite]Posted By: Curb_It[/cite]is it just me... or is everything just shit?

    I think you are right B.
  • [cite]Posted By: Algarveaddick[/cite]
    [cite]Posted By: millaphile[/cite]Television has got progresively worse over the years. Nature programes aside it is hard to see what the BBC make well anymore. Perhaps this has a great deal to do with the new BBC channels. Do we really need BBC 3? All it really shows is repeats of East enders and new comedies, alot of which are rubbish. We already had BBC 2 for this purpose. Also i believe the inflated wages of T.V. and radio personalities has its part to play. (How Chris Moyles gets paid as much as he does for repeating the same joke over and over for 2 weeks is beyond me.)

    Maybe it is about time that the T.V. license is abandoned. That way BBC channels would have to compete for advertising and could not just rely on money handed to them on a plate. If you don't have hit shows you don't get the advertising big bucks.

    If you do not use gas, you do not have to pay for it. Yet i have a television and do not watch BBC, why should i have to pay them?

    I don't have kids, but my taxes pay for their education, health, child benefit and to clear up after they have vandalised stuff, and it's a darn sight more than the cost of the license fee.

    The BBC must remain as it is, so many programmes that would not have survived on a commercial channel have become classics, Men Behaving Badly (actually dropped by ITV before the Beeb took up the mantle) and Only Fools and Horses to name just two.

    There is still a fair bit of decent TV about, if you watch with an open mind and a bit of imagination.

    There is also a lot of dross, I agree - all the "reality" crap to keep the Sun readers slumped in front of the telly for example. You just have to pick and choose what you watch. I advise anyone who really cares about what they watch to buy the Radio Times every week, and read it properly. I have often found out about programmes that a quick glance at the title in the paper would never have lead me to watch.

    Can you name another company that is permited to charge you when you are not using its services? (Government excepted)
  • TheMissus plc.
  • [cite]Posted By: WSS[/cite]TheMissus plc.

    Still use mines "services" but then it's only been 4 months;)
  • [cite]Posted By: millaphile[/cite]
    [cite]Posted By: Algarveaddick[/cite]
    [cite]Posted By: millaphile[/cite]Television has got progresively worse over the years. Nature programes aside it is hard to see what the BBC make well anymore. Perhaps this has a great deal to do with the new BBC channels. Do we really need BBC 3? All it really shows is repeats of East enders and new comedies, alot of which are rubbish. We already had BBC 2 for this purpose. Also i believe the inflated wages of T.V. and radio personalities has its part to play. (How Chris Moyles gets paid as much as he does for repeating the same joke over and over for 2 weeks is beyond me.)

    Maybe it is about time that the T.V. license is abandoned. That way BBC channels would have to compete for advertising and could not just rely on money handed to them on a plate. If you don't have hit shows you don't get the advertising big bucks.

    If you do not use gas, you do not have to pay for it. Yet i have a television and do not watch BBC, why should i have to pay them?

    I don't have kids, but my taxes pay for their education, health, child benefit and to clear up after they have vandalised stuff, and it's a darn sight more than the cost of the license fee.

    The BBC must remain as it is, so many programmes that would not have survived on a commercial channel have become classics, Men Behaving Badly (actually dropped by ITV before the Beeb took up the mantle) and Only Fools and Horses to name just two.

    There is still a fair bit of decent TV about, if you watch with an open mind and a bit of imagination.

    There is also a lot of dross, I agree - all the "reality" crap to keep the Sun readers slumped in front of the telly for example. You just have to pick and choose what you watch. I advise anyone who really cares about what they watch to buy the Radio Times every week, and read it properly. I have often found out about programmes that a quick glance at the title in the paper would never have lead me to watch.

    Can you name another company that is permited to charge you when you are not using its services? (Government excepted)

    No, but no-one in Britain with a radio or TV NEVER uses it's services, you obviously do.

    It also makes the commercial channels include some decent programming amongst the dross, if the yardstick wasn't there, we sould be subjected to even more cheap to make crap TV like guessing games such as Deal or no deal, or the utter pile of festering poo that is Big Brother.
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