Why is it that we have this love affair with villains?
They certainly think nothing of the rest of society. Get in their way and they'd fillet you. They laugh at us normal people who work Monday to Friday.
George Davis was a criminal, we the tax payers have had to stump up for his crimes.
Not to mention the victims directly involved in his and gangs crimes.
Did you ever see that programme about Frankie Frasier during the war?
Whilst others were out dying to protect our freedom, he was robbing their houses. This got absolutely no attention from the media, and he seemed to be quite proud of the fact that unlike all the other 'mugs' he was thinking of number one...
I thought it was truly shocking and was just sorry that the scumbag wasn't caught at the time (they had rather short shrift for criminals in wartime, understandably) as it would have spared London all of the sh*t that he graduated onto afterwards...
People who glamourise criminals seem to be needy types who have no sense of self esteem at all and try to bask in the misperceived 'glory' of scumbags. All this east end gangster bollocks (the Krays were great etc.) that so many pub bores subscribe to is just tedious.
[cite]Posted By: bigstemarra[/cite]All this east end gangster bollocks (the Krays were great etc.) that so many pub bores subscribe to is just tedious.
The parody by Monty Python in the Deansdale sketch summed it up really.
You know nothing of this case or the time, you weren't even born. He did NOT go down for a crime he didn't commit - he got released from prison for a crime he DID commit, because of a very well organised campaign.
Stick to the 1990's fella and keep your uninformed liberal, long haired, Union Bar outdated Marxist ideas to yourself son. You are so wrong about this one it's untrue!
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Hmmm...I think it's you that needs to review the case that he was wrongly jailed for not me old chum...
George Davis was a petty criminal (no argument there) who was well known to the police but was convicted of participating in an armed robbery. The police and then the CPS ignored some vital evidence which would have exonerated him, which as an aside meant that the real perpetrators went free, something I consider a miscarriage of justice, but something that you appear to have no problem with, why the hypocrisy? That he was later convicted of a crime that he was bang to rights for I have no problem with, but that is irrelevant when considering his earlier conviction. You do understand the difference don't you (this is pretty basic)? Or are you happy that people get sent down for crimes that they didn't commit, even if their eyebrows meet in the middle? This isn't a matter of whether you are liberal or not, but of common justice.
And as for the Test match, I recall Phil Edmonds taking a fivefor...
[cite]Posted By: Henry Irving[/cite]I remember Fletcher tricking someone to dig up Elland Rd although it was actually Loftus Rd
You sure (Sir) Henry.
I know that Lords like yourself are never wrong, but I do seem to remember a "Leeds United" sign there
Not a lord, only a Knight and I'm often wrong.
It was meant to be Elland Rd and there was a shot of the Elland Rd entrance but I read somewhere that is was QPR which as we know is just around the corner from BBC TV centre in White City.
So in the story Fletcher sets someone up to get back the property of an elderly prisoner. Who played the aged lag?
[cite]Posted By: Henry Irving[/cite]I remember Fletcher tricking someone to dig up Elland Rd although it was actually Loftus Rd
You sure (Sir) Henry.
I know that Lords like yourself are never wrong, but I do seem to remember a "Leeds United" sign there
Not a lord, only a Knight and I'm often wrong.
It was meant to be Elland Rd and there was a shot of the Elland Rd entrance but I read somewhere that is was QPR which as we know is just around the corner from BBC TV centre in White City.
So in the story Fletcher sets someone up to get back the property of an elderly prisoner. Who played the aged lag?
[cite]Posted By: Henry Irving[/cite]I remember Fletcher tricking someone to dig up Elland Rd although it was actually Loftus Rd
You sure (Sir) Henry.
I know that Lords like yourself are never wrong, but I do seem to remember a "Leeds United" sign there
Not a lord, only a Knight and I'm often wrong.
It was meant to be Elland Rd and there was a shot of the Elland Rd entrance but I read somewhere that is was QPR which as we know is just around the corner from BBC TV centre in White City.
So in the story Fletcher sets someone up to get back the property of an elderly prisoner. Who played the aged lag?
David Jason?
Correct
They did a classic one with him, when he was released from his murder stretch after years of claiming innocence and the other inmates backing him etc, and then admitted to fletch right at the end as he walked out that he had killed his wife, brilliant stuff.
They did a classic one with him, when he was released from his murder stretch after years of claiming innocence and the other inmates backing him etc, and then admitted to fletch right at the end as he walked out that he had killed his wife, brilliant stuff.[/quote]
I have seen that, you're right, its absolutely priceless and incredibly well done by David Jason.
I still think the episode (staying in?) where it is just Godber and Fletch in the cell talking is just perfect. 25 minutes of comedy and nothing but a prison cell and two people talking.
Great programme...but something that could never be made now. Can you imagine the reaction from the moralising hypocrites at the Daily Mail and the NoTW if the BBC announced that they were going to make a sitcom set inside a prison? All those indignant blue rinse types moaning about the BBC glorifying crime and using our license fees to do it.
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They certainly think nothing of the rest of society. Get in their way and they'd fillet you. They laugh at us normal people who work Monday to Friday.
George Davis was a criminal, we the tax payers have had to stump up for his crimes.
Not to mention the victims directly involved in his and gangs crimes.
Whilst others were out dying to protect our freedom, he was robbing their houses. This got absolutely no attention from the media, and he seemed to be quite proud of the fact that unlike all the other 'mugs' he was thinking of number one...
I thought it was truly shocking and was just sorry that the scumbag wasn't caught at the time (they had rather short shrift for criminals in wartime, understandably) as it would have spared London all of the sh*t that he graduated onto afterwards...
People who glamourise criminals seem to be needy types who have no sense of self esteem at all and try to bask in the misperceived 'glory' of scumbags. All this east end gangster bollocks (the Krays were great etc.) that so many pub bores subscribe to is just tedious.
Blimey that's a bit of a rant, sorry.
The parody by Monty Python in the Deansdale sketch summed it up really.
LOL
Stick to the 1990's fella and keep your uninformed liberal, long haired, Union Bar outdated Marxist ideas to yourself son. You are so wrong about this one it's untrue!
..........
Hmmm...I think it's you that needs to review the case that he was wrongly jailed for not me old chum...
George Davis was a petty criminal (no argument there) who was well known to the police but was convicted of participating in an armed robbery. The police and then the CPS ignored some vital evidence which would have exonerated him, which as an aside meant that the real perpetrators went free, something I consider a miscarriage of justice, but something that you appear to have no problem with, why the hypocrisy? That he was later convicted of a crime that he was bang to rights for I have no problem with, but that is irrelevant when considering his earlier conviction. You do understand the difference don't you (this is pretty basic)? Or are you happy that people get sent down for crimes that they didn't commit, even if their eyebrows meet in the middle? This isn't a matter of whether you are liberal or not, but of common justice.
And as for the Test match, I recall Phil Edmonds taking a fivefor...
David Jason?
Correct
They did a classic one with him, when he was released from his murder stretch after years of claiming innocence and the other inmates backing him etc, and then admitted to fletch right at the end as he walked out that he had killed his wife, brilliant stuff.
I have seen that, you're right, its absolutely priceless and incredibly well done by David Jason.
Great writing to do that.