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Athur should Chelsea been awarded a pen when

Lehman pushed Drobca in the box as play was continuing ?

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    Yes. And then Drogba should have been sent off for retaliating, followed by Lehmann for diving.....

    ;-)

    Seriously though, something needs to be done about it. It's turning football into a circus.
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    [cite]Posted By: Medders[/cite]Yes. And then Drogba should have been sent off for retaliating, followed by Lehmann for diving.....

    ;-)

    Seriously though, something needs to be done about it. It's turning football into a circus.

    Turning?? It already is man!
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    Add a Sin Bin like in Rugby, that way there is less benefit by getting an oposing player "sent off" - which hopefully could change the behaviour. Keep a red card for very serious offences but the double yellows etc.... why kill a game by sending off a player for say 60 minutes when 10 minutes will be a "power play" (in a very American accent)

    In fact take a long look at the way rugby is officiated and look to see what could help and change football accordingly. they attempted to put in the 10 yard rule for free kicks, if a player objected then the kick was taken forward 10 yards, well that didn't happen for long....
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    [cite]Posted By: iansarge[/cite]In fact take a long look at the way rugby is officiated and look to see what could help and change football accordingly. they attempted to put in the 10 yard rule for free kicks, if a player objected then the kick was taken forward 10 yards, well that didn't happen for long....


    Thats down to the refs not enforcing it enough though, I can only ever remember seeing it happen 2 or 3 times. No need for a sin bin I dont think either, if a player gets sent off then its ultimately his fault so the team have to deal with it. If a sin bin is introduced players know they can get away with not being sent off & could use it to their advantage.
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    I like the way they carry on with the game while an injured player is getting treatment ON the pitch.
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    ah but the point is you can still get sent off, the sin bin would just be for minor incidents, like Faye's double yellow this year..
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    Yeah, but if a player does a silly little challenge he knows he can get away with it again and not get sent off for it, just miss ten mins of the game, therefore is more likely to do it if it prevents goalscoring opportunity arising, wasting time, etc.
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    If a player gets sent off for denying a goalscoring opportunity then the attacking team should be awarded a penalty regardless of where the incident took place in my opinion.
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    technically yes
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    Add a Sin Bin like in Rugby, that way there is less benefit by getting an oposing player "sent off"


    I've often thought that would be a good idea, but there is one flaw, what do you do when your keeper gets sin-binned? When he gets a red card you sub another player for the reserve keeper and that problem sorts itself out.

    But with a sin-bin things are different, would another outfield player be allowed to temporarily go in goal for ten minutes, and then return to being an outfield player? Do you as with the red-card scenario sub an outfield player to bring on the substitute keeper and then sub the starting keeper for another player when his time is up?

    Anyone got any thoughts?
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    you're right BFR, the keeper problem is the big issue stopping sin bins. You can't have one rule for outfield players, and another for keepers.
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    You can't have one rule for outfield players, and another for keepers.

    Erm, you can actually and you see it most weeks. Keepers aren't required to leave the field after recieving treatment.

    Oh, and they can pick the ball up :-)
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    Good point, hadn't thought about that, but allowing a sub keeper to fill in for the 10 minutes sin bin and swapping an outfield player to the bin is an option...or even better make an outfield player go in goal, Remember Brownie at Villa, pulling off that fantastic save from the free kick, swiftly followed by Danny Mill's scorcher, and the end of Chicks playing career during the celebrations....!
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