Never ceases to amaze me how many fans don’t realise that football is a business and the players will go and sign for whoever they think improves their lot for themselves and their loved ones. I’m also amazed that fans are so outraged that a player gives it back to fans when he’s being abused. When Defoe left us for West Ham it was for a deal and chance that he couldn’t refuse. Every one of us would do the same. If I was playing and the fans were giving me the wanker song I’d certainly want to stuff it back down their throats.
Exactly.
Lyle Taylor is a million times worse than Defoe....in terms of professionalism and loyalty. Taylor was a bullshitter and completely fake. It was all about him.
Defoe was 16!
The wanker Jermaine Defoe chants were relevant and required in the Premier League years, partially because it was annoying about how good he was and we wish he at least stayed with us in his early 20s, so we could sell him for a good amount of money.
It was the sneaky way the people around him got him out of the club.
May I suggest that some of you go back on this thread and read about the dying kid he led out at Wembley. Maybe it will provide a different perception of the man.
Taylor is the same with his pink hair, still wouldn’t have either on them back.
I don’t hate him because he left at 16, but I can’t stand him for the smug and disrespectful way he celebrated in front of our fans every time he came back and scored against us. You don’t do that if you have any decency or respect for the club who nurtured and developed you.
Probably because we were singing wanker Jermaine Defoe.
Before he ever scored? I suppose it’s a bit chicken and egg. The lottery thing is another reason people have.
Yes without doubt and for a long time and very very loud and every time he played against us.
I know for a fact that the contributions made by Valley Gold members in financing the scheme to bring through our youth players was much talked about at the time, remember these funds were paid by fans specifically for that purpose, out of their own pockets. They in particular were pissed off and rightly so. He had been jealousy guarded and nothing was spared in making him feel happy to stay with us. No matter how you look at it, it was certainly an unexpected slap in the face. Rules regarding the ‘poaching’ of youngsters were changed as a direct result of what happened with this move after we made forceful protestations and if my memory serves me right, I think we eventually got some kind of compensation…..though it wasn’t much. Maybe someone can clarify that? Of course, into the bargain he was a local lad to West Ham. Having said that, I think it would be worth a punt to have him around, he has an amazing ability/instinct to score goals of all kinds and from all positions. I think he would still have something to offer at this level. Not much he could do this season of course but get him into as good shape as possible for next season and see how it goes. So it’s a yes from me.
May I suggest that some of you go back on this thread and read about the dying kid he led out at Wembley. Maybe it will provide a different perception of the man.
Taylor is the same with his pink hair, still wouldn’t have either on them back.
Ridiculous comment. Really not the same thing at all.
How long is a player's career? By that I mean long enough to earn meaningful money. Ten years? No employer owns the body and soul of any footballer. The club offers them a contract which they either sign or don't sign.
I wonder if those who call a Defoe, Parker or James Beadle for moving clubs a Judas feel the same way when they move jobs themselves. Surely their existing employer, even more so if they served an apprenticeship with them, deserves unconditional loyalty? Equally, if a Premier League Club came knocking for their son and offering double, treble, quadruple or even ten times the money, are they seriously saying that they would advise their child not to move? "Don't worry about a career ending injury, you stay at Charlton son. They'll put food on the table for the next 50 years. You can always live off the fact that you are one of our own".
If anyone can honestly say that they could look straight in the eye of their son, given those circumstances and say you are far better staying with us than make a life changing move then they are a far better person than I am.
Fans support their clubs with a passion. And rightly so. But footballers are doing a job. And they owe no more allegiance to us than we, as a Club, owe to the 18 year old who has been with us since he was eight who is told "there's the door son, hope you find another club. Oh and hope to see you watching from the stands at the next home game".
No club can love you enough to compensate you for missing out on that move. For some, coming to us, especially when we were in the Premier League, was that life changing move. And no club can love you enough to say that, when they think it's your time to go, they will still offer you another contract. Because they won't.
When one strips back all the emotion it really is that simple. It's just a job for a professional sportsman who has a very limited working lifespan at that profession.
How long is a player's career? By that I mean long enough to earn meaningful money. Ten years? No employer owns the body and soul of any footballer. The club offers them a contract which they either sign or don't sign.
I wonder if those who call a Defoe, Parker or James Beadle for moving clubs a Judas feel the same way when they move jobs themselves. Surely their existing employer, even more so if they served an apprenticeship with them, deserves unconditional loyalty? Equally, if a Premier League Club came knocking for their son and offering double, treble, quadruple or even ten times the money, are they seriously saying that they would advise their child not to move? "Don't worry about a career ending injury, you stay at Charlton son. They'll put food on the table for the next 50 years. You can always live off the fact that you are one of our own".
If anyone can honestly say that they could look straight in the eye of their son, given those circumstances and say you are far better staying with us than make a life changing move then they are a far better person than I am.
Fans support their clubs with a passion. And rightly so. But footballers are doing a job. And they owe no more allegiance to us than we, as a Club, owe to the 18 year old who has been with us since he was eight who is told "there's the door son, hope you find another club. Oh and hope to see you watching from the stands at the next home game".
No club can love you enough to compensate you for missing out on that move. For some, coming to us, especially when we were in the Premier League, was that life changing move. And no club can love you enough to say that, when they think it's your time to go, they will still offer you another contract. Because they won't.
When one strips back all the emotion it really is that simple. It's just a job for a professional sportsman who has a very limited working lifespan at that profession.
Excellent post. Defoe was 16 when he left. The decision was more than likely made for him anyway.
How long is a player's career? By that I mean long enough to earn meaningful money. Ten years? No employer owns the body and soul of any footballer. The club offers them a contract which they either sign or don't sign.
I wonder if those who call a Defoe, Parker or James Beadle for moving clubs a Judas feel the same way when they move jobs themselves. Surely their existing employer, even more so if they served an apprenticeship with them, deserves unconditional loyalty? Equally, if a Premier League Club came knocking for their son and offering double, treble, quadruple or even ten times the money, are they seriously saying that they would advise their child not to move? "Don't worry about a career ending injury, you stay at Charlton son. They'll put food on the table for the next 50 years. You can always live off the fact that you are one of our own".
If anyone can honestly say that they could look straight in the eye of their son, given those circumstances and say you are far better staying with us than make a life changing move then they are a far better person than I am.
Fans support their clubs with a passion. And rightly so. But footballers are doing a job. And they owe no more allegiance to us than we, as a Club, owe to the 18 year old who has been with us since he was eight who is told "there's the door son, hope you find another club. Oh and hope to see you watching from the stands at the next home game".
No club can love you enough to compensate you for missing out on that move. For some, coming to us, especially when we were in the Premier League, was that life changing move. And no club can love you enough to say that, when they think it's your time to go, they will still offer you another contract. Because they won't.
When one strips back all the emotion it really is that simple. It's just a job for a professional sportsman who has a very limited working lifespan at that profession.
Yeah, I agree with everything you’ve written, but Parker actually broke my heart mate.
How long is a player's career? By that I mean long enough to earn meaningful money. Ten years? No employer owns the body and soul of any footballer. The club offers them a contract which they either sign or don't sign.
I wonder if those who call a Defoe, Parker or James Beadle for moving clubs a Judas feel the same way when they move jobs themselves. Surely their existing employer, even more so if they served an apprenticeship with them, deserves unconditional loyalty? Equally, if a Premier League Club came knocking for their son and offering double, treble, quadruple or even ten times the money, are they seriously saying that they would advise their child not to move? "Don't worry about a career ending injury, you stay at Charlton son. They'll put food on the table for the next 50 years. You can always live off the fact that you are one of our own".
If anyone can honestly say that they could look straight in the eye of their son, given those circumstances and say you are far better staying with us than make a life changing move then they are a far better person than I am.
Fans support their clubs with a passion. And rightly so. But footballers are doing a job. And they owe no more allegiance to us than we, as a Club, owe to the 18 year old who has been with us since he was eight who is told "there's the door son, hope you find another club. Oh and hope to see you watching from the stands at the next home game".
No club can love you enough to compensate you for missing out on that move. For some, coming to us, especially when we were in the Premier League, was that life changing move. And no club can love you enough to say that, when they think it's your time to go, they will still offer you another contract. Because they won't.
When one strips back all the emotion it really is that simple. It's just a job for a professional sportsman who has a very limited working lifespan at that profession.
Yeah, I agree with everything you’ve written, but Parker actually broke my heart mate.
I absolutely get that. Paul Walsh and Paul Elliott was the same for me back in the day.
How long is a player's career? By that I mean long enough to earn meaningful money. Ten years? No employer owns the body and soul of any footballer. The club offers them a contract which they either sign or don't sign.
I wonder if those who call a Defoe, Parker or James Beadle for moving clubs a Judas feel the same way when they move jobs themselves. Surely their existing employer, even more so if they served an apprenticeship with them, deserves unconditional loyalty? Equally, if a Premier League Club came knocking for their son and offering double, treble, quadruple or even ten times the money, are they seriously saying that they would advise their child not to move? "Don't worry about a career ending injury, you stay at Charlton son. They'll put food on the table for the next 50 years. You can always live off the fact that you are one of our own".
If anyone can honestly say that they could look straight in the eye of their son, given those circumstances and say you are far better staying with us than make a life changing move then they are a far better person than I am.
Fans support their clubs with a passion. And rightly so. But footballers are doing a job. And they owe no more allegiance to us than we, as a Club, owe to the 18 year old who has been with us since he was eight who is told "there's the door son, hope you find another club. Oh and hope to see you watching from the stands at the next home game".
No club can love you enough to compensate you for missing out on that move. For some, coming to us, especially when we were in the Premier League, was that life changing move. And no club can love you enough to say that, when they think it's your time to go, they will still offer you another contract. Because they won't.
When one strips back all the emotion it really is that simple. It's just a job for a professional sportsman who has a very limited working lifespan at that profession.
Yeah, I agree with everything you’ve written, but Parker actually broke my heart mate.
I absolutely get that. Paul Walsh and Paul Elliott was the same for me back in the day.
Johnny come lately lot. Billy Bonds, Marvin Hinton & Mike Bailey broke my tender heart.
I was as upset with Defoe, more his family actually, as anyone at the time. But the real villain of the piece is of course the dodgy, fat twat who signed up when they knew the score with our club at the time.
May I suggest that some of you go back on this thread and read about the dying kid he led out at Wembley. Maybe it will provide a different perception of the man.
Taylor is the same with his pink hair, still wouldn’t have either on them back.
That was to aid charity and Breast Cancer every October. Most unfair.
I was trying to say that both have done their bit for others, still wouldn’t have either of them back.
I should imagine at this stage of his career he is interested in coaching as well as playing and I can see us offering that. Secondly, he evidently wants to be in London to pursue media pundit possibilities. Thirdly, I assume he still has family ties just across the river. One (or all), of the above may be reason alone.
Massive benefit to Defoe potentially coming in and coaching the young attackers like Burstow etc and even offering up finishing training for senior strikers.
Imagine if Defoe comes in then Aneke may be used just behind the front 2 if Stockleys also fit.
If signing Defoe as player/coach could persuade Kanu to sign a decent pro contract then that is potentially worth a lot of money to us. Kanu in particular can learn loads from Defoe.
If signing Defoe as player/coach could persuade Kanu to sign a decent pro contract then that is potentially worth a lot of money to us. Kanu in particular can learn loads from Defoe.
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Exactly.
Lyle Taylor is a million times worse than Defoe....in terms of professionalism and loyalty.
Taylor was a bullshitter and completely fake. It was all about him.
Defoe was 16!
The wanker Jermaine Defoe chants were relevant and required in the Premier League years, partially because it was annoying about how good he was and we wish he at least stayed with us in his early 20s, so we could sell him for a good amount of money.
It was the sneaky way the people around him got him out of the club.
Just backstabbers
He had been jealousy guarded and nothing was spared in making him feel happy to stay with us. No matter how you look at it, it was certainly an unexpected slap in the face.
Rules regarding the ‘poaching’ of youngsters were changed as a direct result of what happened with this move after we made forceful protestations and if my memory serves me right, I think we eventually got some kind of compensation…..though it wasn’t much. Maybe someone can clarify that?
Of course, into the bargain he was a local lad to West Ham.
Having said that, I think it would be worth a punt to have him around, he has an amazing ability/instinct to score goals of all kinds and from all positions. I think he would still have something to offer at this level.
Not much he could do this season of course but get him into as good shape as possible for next season and see how it goes.
So it’s a yes from me.
Wwwwwwaaaaaaanker Jermaine Def...o...OH?
39 years old
not good enough for spl
backstabbing creep
I wonder if those who call a Defoe, Parker or James Beadle for moving clubs a Judas feel the same way when they move jobs themselves. Surely their existing employer, even more so if they served an apprenticeship with them, deserves unconditional loyalty? Equally, if a Premier League Club came knocking for their son and offering double, treble, quadruple or even ten times the money, are they seriously saying that they would advise their child not to move? "Don't worry about a career ending injury, you stay at Charlton son. They'll put food on the table for the next 50 years. You can always live off the fact that you are one of our own".
If anyone can honestly say that they could look straight in the eye of their son, given those circumstances and say you are far better staying with us than make a life changing move then they are a far better person than I am.
Fans support their clubs with a passion. And rightly so. But footballers are doing a job. And they owe no more allegiance to us than we, as a Club, owe to the 18 year old who has been with us since he was eight who is told "there's the door son, hope you find another club. Oh and hope to see you watching from the stands at the next home game".
No club can love you enough to compensate you for missing out on that move. For some, coming to us, especially when we were in the Premier League, was that life changing move. And no club can love you enough to say that, when they think it's your time to go, they will still offer you another contract. Because they won't.
When one strips back all the emotion it really is that simple. It's just a job for a professional sportsman who has a very limited working lifespan at that profession.
Billy Bonds, Marvin Hinton & Mike Bailey broke my tender heart.
It's unlikely a Championship club will take him.
He may wish to return to London.
Secondly, he evidently wants to be in London to pursue media pundit possibilities.
Thirdly, I assume he still has family ties just across the river.
One (or all), of the above may be reason alone.
W A H A N K E...R
Jerma...You know the rest!
Imagine if Defoe comes in then Aneke may be used just behind the front 2 if Stockleys also fit.
I don't have the answers.