Now that we have sorted out Oracle and his dose of Sciatica, anybody on here ever experienced the joys of a frozen shoulder? I have recently been diagnosed with this condition in both shoulders. It started about 9 months ago and has been steadily getting worse. I went to hospital just before Xmas and had cortizone injections in both shoulders (and you should see the size of those needles!!) but this has made absolutely no difference. Anybody know how long I am likely to have to carry on suffering this??
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Looks like you're stuck with FS for the next 30 months
Take it you won't be leading the 'Easy' chant when Bryan Hughes gets his hat trick tonight ???
When Hughesie scored on Saturday it literally brought tears to my eyes as I threw my arms up in the air, followed by a scream of pain as I slumped to the ground clutching my shoulders. It has got so bad that it is almost impossible to reach behind me and very painful to raise my arms above shoulder level. As they are both so sore it also makes sleep pretty uncomfortable. No excuse for being late to work in 2007 then!!
waiting on a GP appt but pretty sure I have this, pain getting worse at times and sleeping on that side is a nightmare now.
sometimes it doesn't hurt at all, but then I'll move in a certain way or do something and it's agony. Weirdly it hasn't hurt at all whilst playing football.
looking at google, it seems it takes a while to recover from fully.
looks like physio is the way forwards.
Hopefully the GP will sort you out soon 👍
Do you want him to go blind as well?
I had it about 15 years ago in my left shoulder and I can sympathise - very painful.
The GP basically said there was nothing he could do and that the body would repair the shoulder itself in around 12 months. He explained it by imaginging a rope and pulley, where the rope gets a little frayed.
It went eventually - almost 12 months to the day (not sure that helps or what you wanted to hear!).
My wife tells me the following (sorry, it's not good):
- her case was about 15 years ago
- it started in her left shoulder, moved over to the right and back again. I understand this is rare.
- in all, hers lasted almost 5 years (but the condition was not as well understood or readily treated then)
- at it's worse she could not raise her arms up more than a few inches
But, more hopefully, she found a great clinic that specialised in this condition and made a huge difference. It might be in different hands now but she swears by Highgate Osteopaths. North London a bugger to get to, but worth it. Quite expensive, even then, but they fixed the problem when others had failed to diagnose and treat properly.
http://www.highgateosteopaths.com/home/4594369795
The technique they used then was developed by a guy called Simeon Niel-Asher. There's a very good book that my wife recommends.
https://www.worldofbooks.com/en-gb/books/s-niel-asher/treat-your-own-frozen-shoulder/GOR005572458?keyword=&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIne6k1quK5QIViaztCh2jWg5DEAQYAiABEgKu-vD_BwE
Good luck with getting some help.
cheers @davo55 and others.
all highlighting pretty much what I've read up on. Pain has gradually got worse over the past few months to the point now where I can't sleep on my left side.
it's a very difficult pain to describe though, doesn't hurt all the time and as I said, I've still been playing football. seems to be more of a dull ache - much worse in the morning.
You can wait for it to go away on it's own and manage the pain meanwhile. This will normally take a long time (a year or so) and may not happen at all, depending in part on how much you elect to stretch the shoulder out.
It is caused (I may have this a bit wrong) by a membrane that surrounds the shoulder joint and which is normally separated from the shoulder - presumably by some fluid - but which for reasons not entirely understood can shrink around the shoulder like clingfilm, hence 'freezing' it. In my case it was caused by a running accident but it is more common in diabetics apparently.
So the alternative to waiting for an improvement is to have the membrane 'inflated' using a surgical procedure (local anaesthetic, nothing major), followed by physiotherapy to get everything loose again.
I went for the latter option and was back to normal about one month after the procedure, however I was told there is not an absolute guarantee of success. That was after living with the frozen shoulder for about 6 months - the longer you wait, the more physio required.
Just wondering if anyone has any "home remedies" going docs tomorrow to push for another steroid injection and surgery. 4 years on and off is long enough to suffer, genuinely dont think I can take much more of this pain.
Sorry but the actual operation for the frozen wasn’t to bad and with physo would have been fixed within six weeks, I was very unfortunate because of the second injury was masked. Was told if I waited for self healing, then I would have most likely lost the arm, the damage was that bad.
Bloody awful experience. Good luck to anyone with the problem.
This was back in November, had a steriod injection in December and just finished a course of physio, thankfully now I'm pain free although don't have full movement back yet.
Can sympathise with anyone who has this, horrible pain - fully expect mine to return at some point and to need another injection.
What was funny and Charlton related, just before surgery on a Saturday morning they asked me what TV program I wanted on to wake up to after the surgery, so I said Anything with football scores, so they put Geoff on, it was the day we won one nil up at Sheffield when Jacko scored the free kick, I wasn’t quite round, but apparent when the goal went in, I set off every alarm possible on the monitoring system, they weren’t happy, but I wasn’t really awake so I didn’t care.