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To soft ? the Charlton way ?
Goonerhater
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Clubs know we are mushy soft, as hard as a piece of wet karzi paper. But this isnt a new thing is it ? In Eamon Dunphys book he basically says Nillwall knew that we had no gonads when they played us and they would just role us over. Its been happening for years and years.Of course there have been times when we could mix it and had the players who couldnt be bullied.Rufus,Brown,Robinson,Kinsella maybe wrong to look atthat set because they were part of one of our best set of players ever.
But being softy nicy is the Charlton way ? to be very very very very nice ? i mean even the fact that we debate on here that some songs chanted have swear words in !! FFS swear words at footie !! or that people standing up is a debate ---------- every week , thats every week you can see on TV crowds where they are all standing . Yet dear old CAFC its a sin !
We have become the cartoon of what we are called ------------ trainspotters.
There is of course a fine line between having an edge and being a nasty twat but we have truely become pretty sad.
But being softy nicy is the Charlton way ? to be very very very very nice ? i mean even the fact that we debate on here that some songs chanted have swear words in !! FFS swear words at footie !! or that people standing up is a debate ---------- every week , thats every week you can see on TV crowds where they are all standing . Yet dear old CAFC its a sin !
We have become the cartoon of what we are called ------------ trainspotters.
There is of course a fine line between having an edge and being a nasty twat but we have truely become pretty sad.
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and this will be highlighted in a few weeks at the Toolbox...0
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Another example was Mooney last night.Now i'm speculating how bad,but it was just a bump on the head.I reckon other centre forwards,at other sides would have looked at our predicament,had a snort of smelling salts, rolled there sleeves up and got on with it. Expect Mooney to be out for weeks!0
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[cite]Posted By: carly burn[/cite]Another example was Mooney last night.Now i'm speculating how bad,but it was just a bump on the head.I reckon other centre forwards,at other sides would have looked at our predicament,had a snort of smelling salts, rolled there sleeves up and got on with it. Expect Mooney to be out for weeks!
if he hadn't half bottled the challenge he wouldn't have been hurt so badly.
made of glass that boy...far to weak0 -
Terribly challenge on Basey, none of our players did anything. Thought one of them might have a bit of a bite at Blizzard afterwards.
Not saying I want us to become a bunch of thugs on the pitch but a bit more desire to win the ball and put yourself about isn't too much to ask for?
Last 3 seasons we've seen teams out muscle us. Now we have some decent ball players but we can't mix it up when things get rough.0 -
Goonerhater: In response to your post
Yeah mate, we seem to be a nice little community club: "we do a lodda good work for charidy". Tired of reading about it on our site. We are supposed to be a bloody football club FIRSTLY and foremostly. I feel like: If as much effort went into preparing the TEAM as it did off-field stuff we might be better prepared come kick-off!
I am getting sick of the lack of fight at this club and the ethos of being told to go and support Millwall or Palace if I don't like it. Not only have our board, manager and team got no balls, but it feels like our fanbase is lacking any spirit either, particularly in the West stand where I sit with my family. You start singing there and get looked at like your'e a trouble maker or something.0 -
I'm sorry but the last (Sorry 3rd and 4th) are bo11ocks, he looked as if he didnt have a clue where he was. Had a bloody great lump on his head is it really worth the risk?
I'm sure if it was a case of smelling sorts he would of come back on.0 -
[cite]Posted By: carly burn[/cite]Another example was Mooney last night.Now i'm speculating how bad,but it was just a bump on the head.I reckon other centre forwards,at other sides would have looked at our predicament,had a snort of smelling salts, rolled there sleeves up and got on with it. Expect Mooney to be out for weeks!
did you see the lump coming out of his head? it was huge. made me feel sick.0 -
Physio's are extremely strict with head injuries now. I dont think Mooney would have been allowed to stay on even if he wanted too. Not a Mooney fan but very unfair to slate him for going off.0
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[cite]Posted By: BigRedEvil[/cite]Terribly challenge on Basey, none of our players did anything. Thought one of them might have a bit of a bite at Blizzard afterwards.
Not saying I want us to become a bunch of thugs on the pitch but a bit more desire to win the ball and put yourself about isn't too much to ask for?
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[cite]Posted By: carly burn[/cite]Another example was Mooney last night.Now i'm speculating how bad,but it was just a bump on the head.I reckon other centre forwards,at other sides would have looked at our predicament,had a snort of smelling salts, rolled there sleeves up and got on with it. Expect Mooney to be out for weeks!
After that crack on the head, you could see in his eyes Mooney looked concussed.
Smelling salts doesn't sort out concussion.0 -
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[cite]Posted By: Curb_It[/cite][cite]Posted By: carly burn[/cite]Another example was Mooney last night.Now i'm speculating how bad,but it was just a bump on the head.I reckon other centre forwards,at other sides would have looked at our predicament,had a snort of smelling salts, rolled there sleeves up and got on with it. Expect Mooney to be out for weeks!
did you see the lump coming out of his head? it was huge. made me feel sick.
Absolutely. My housemate's a medic and even he recoiled a little0 -
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wss put a picture up of that golf ball on his head on another thread ... it was evil...............no sooner said than done!!0
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We have allways been soft. Time for the fans and players to toughen up. As pointed out we are supposed to be football club.0
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[cite]Posted By: WSS[/cite]
What a wimp/made of glass/only a little bump
If he was PROPER CHARLTON he would have rolled up his sleeves and been up for the next header. FACT.0 -
looks like he's borrowed Sam Sodje's brain.0
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Exactly Sussex. Thanks WSS. I thought i was imagining the lump. Not seen anything like that for a while!!0
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[cite]Posted By: ValleyGary[/cite]looks like he's borrowed Sam Sodje's brain.
come on now way is it that big!!0 -
Think the Mooney debate is detracting away from the main point of this thread, there has always been a softness to the club, the way it's run, its players and its supporters. Last night typified how embarassing and pathetic it looks when players in the team play with no pride.
The Millwall game before Xmas was another, more painful, example. We were 2-0 down to that pile of cack after 30mins because the players ran out on the pitch frightened. With the quality in our team we should have murdered them, and the way we succumbed to their onslaught in the last 30mins when they had 10 MEN but still came back for a point was nothing short of a piss-take.
Reputation shouldn't count for very much, I'm not advocating we should go to the likes of Bristol Rovers and turn them over, but having a reputation as we do does give certain teams an edge over us, sometimes it's very hard to accept.0 -
Our club: from boardroom, to manager to the players, and even much of our own fanbase now is as spineless as the shape of the team.
I have been optimistic all season, but enough is enough. We are a pushover ON and OFF the pitch. No wonder everyone calls us softies / trainspotters: It's true and I can't defend our club anymore.0 -
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At least you've still got your health, right?0
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This isn't a discussion about my health, and you know, that is the problem, evryone wants to change the subject, why come on a football forum if not to debate what is going wrong: It's called denial.
We keep defending mediocrity saying it will be alright.
IT IS NOT alright and I've had enough of this BS.0 -
groucho is a millwall fan Red50
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Groucho78MFC, okay sorry, the clue was in the title.
You are gonna stuff us at The Den, no maul us!0 -
[cite]Posted By: WSS[/cite]
What's the matter with you lot.Just the kind of southern softies GH was talking about.0 -
I wouldn't say a stuffing, but the way things currently are I can't see us not winning. I could do without a repeat of the coronary-inducing episode back in December.
Anyway, aren't the majority of your big games to come all at home? Colchester, Leeds, and Norwich? At this point of the season, i'd rather be playing them at home than having to go there and get points. We've got Huddersfield, Colchester, MK Dons, and Leeds all away. Plus a scrap away to Tramere which we're guaranteed to balls-up!
Still on for a Charlton/Millwall play-off. Lovely.0 -
[cite]Posted By: Groucho78MFC[/cite]
Still on for a Charlton/Millwall play-off. Lovely.
On current form I would rather shag Jade Goody.0 -
Same here. I think losing to Millwall in the 3rd division play-offs will be the catalyst that makes the cork explode for a lot of people after the last 5 years.0
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Look, you don't mind losing games. I've been supporting Charlton for over 25 years - we always lose games!!
You just expect some pride, passion and endeavour and we are being sold short (and have been for a while).0 -
Red5. Can you honestly tell me what you expected from this season in terms of league position, goals scored, goals conceded and relative position to automatic promotion/7th place?0
