[cite]Posted By: pilchard[/cite]Blackpool have a decent footballing side and a good work ethic, I reckon they will splat whomever they play in the final be it Cardiff or Leicester. Each time they are written off as "surely they can't top that" they do. On the biggest stage for the highest stakes I very much doubt Blackpool will blink first. The pressure is on the others. Whats more if they go up I don't think it's impossible for them to do a Wolves or a Stoke either.
They're reminiscent of the Curbs side that won in 98 - no star names, but lots of hungry young players or good lower league pros who've been well organised by a good manager and play good football. They clearly don't fear anyone and the pressure is largely off them (expectation will be highest on Cardiff I'd say) and promotion to the Gravy train could be the making of a famous old name who've been down in the dul-drums but have been steadily re-building for a few years. They've even got a temporary stand down one side!
[cite]Posted By: pilchard[/cite]Blackpool have a decent footballing side and a good work ethic, I reckon they will splat whomever they play in the final be it Cardiff or Leicester.
Each time they are written off as "surely they can't top that" they do. On the biggest stage for the highest stakes I very much doubt Blackpool will blink first. The pressure is on the others. Whats more if they go up I don't think it's impossible for them to do a Wolves or a Stoke either.
Down here in Oggyland, Ollie was manager of Plymouth Argyle for a couple of seasons and almost achieved miracles on a shoe-string, before being poached by Leicester - so I got the chance to see a lot of local coverage on how he works.
Everyone knows his quick one-liners and indomitable sense of humour ...... he's great at man-management and lifting the spirits of players. He works on building confidence and belief and taking the fear out of a player's game.
Outwardly at least he's not a worrier, and doesn't malign players for a poor performance publicly and operates on the principle of you work for me and I'll work for you". But he won't put up with player tantrums and because of the warmth and respect he generates within the squad, his senior players also won't tolerate anyone stepping out of line.
[cite]Posted By: pilchard[/cite]Blackpool have a decent footballing side and a good work ethic, I reckon they will splat whomever they play in the final be it Cardiff or Leicester. Each time they are written off as "surely they can't top that" they do. On the biggest stage for the highest stakes I very much doubt Blackpool will blink first. The pressure is on the others. Whats more if they go up I don't think it's impossible for them to do a Wolves or a Stoke either.
They're reminiscent of the Curbs side that won in 98 - no star names, but lots of hungry young players or good lower league pros who've been well organised by a good manager and play good football. They clearly don't fear anyone and the pressure is largely off them (expectation will be highest on Cardiff I'd say) and promotion to the Gravy train could be the making of a famous old name who've been down in the dul-drums but have been steadily re-building for a few years. They've even got a temporary stand down one side!
Why can't we be reminiscent of the Curbs side that won it in 98.
Fair call on the analysis. When Forest went 1-0 up I thought they'd finish it out and square up for a tight match against Cardiff in the final. I still want and think Cardiff will win, but wouldn't begrudge Blackpool their days in the sun if they win it, even if the Premier League could do with losing a few Lancashire teams.
Why can't we be reminiscent of the Curbs side that won it in 98.
There's a thread devoted to the parallels between then and now, not least of all is the run of 1-0s we've been on going into the play-offs. Unfortunately, no matter how hard you try to spin it, we don't really play good football and the pressure most definitely is not off - highest level of expectation out of the 4 teams in fact.
[cite]Posted By: rocking robin[/cite]Lets look at the facts , unfasionable club looked down upon , forest fans thinking were the mighty forest who are blackpool , Fans getting carried away regarding the final , playing second leg at home and in red , a full house , singing the mull of kintyre song , etc etc . I like i like
unfashionable club ... yup, that's us ... charlton to go through then :-)
[cite]Posted By: Sussex_addick[/cite]Billy Davies fair enough, but it's only with the benefit of extreme hindsight that you can act like it was a poor decision not to get Holloway. The guy was a disaster at Leicester
I think he was very unlucky to be honest.
He was the 4th manager that season, with a team of players who were bought by 3 different managers before him, & a chairman with an itchy trigger finger. I think it would have been tough for any manager going into that situation. In fairness, he did have enough time to get them out of trouble, but the rot had set in, long before he got there.(Not too dis-similar from Parkinsons situation, but only 1 idiotic manager before him, that season anyway)
I think a lot of a managers tenure will come down to luck, in the squad inherited, the finances, the mood of the club.
I don't think you can go from being a good manager to a bad one, in the space of 1 job.
He has done a fantastic job at Blackpool, & fully deserves the plaudits. Hopefully, they will complete the job, whoever they face!
Holloways record at Leicester in terms of win/loss percentage is not so bad, the reason they went down was due to too many draws and not scoring enough goals, I think they had one of the best defensive records in the league that season.
Ian Holloway may be a bit of a comic at times but is no mug, a fine manager and his record at most of his clubs is excellent. Promotions on shoe strings and this season is up there with Hull and Burnley for over achivement.
As much as the money from Hudson would be nice, it would be great to see Holloway up against Wenger and the big teams visiting Bloomfield Road in December.
Holloway is just one of many managers showing that you never judge managers on the strength of one job, be that a good one or a bad one. Plenty of bad managers have managed one golden period in their career and plenty of good ones have gone through a bad spell.
Ollie's done pretty well at the clubs he's managed - Bristol Rovers, QPR, Plymouth Argyle and now Blackpool.
The one that got away was during his few months at Leicester where he nearly salvaged an impossible situation there.
He ran out of time. But he does a very decent job at clubs with little money.
[cite]Posted By: Sussex_addick[/cite]Billy Davies fair enough, but it's only with the benefit of extreme hindsight that you can act like it was a poor decision not to get Holloway. The guy was a disaster at Leicester
I don't think you can go from being a good manager to a bad one, in the space of 1 job.
Whilst i agree with your point in general, i'd just like to point out that Tony Mowbray did his best to go from being a good manager (at West brom) to a terrible one (at Celtic).
And Brian Clough at Derby County having won the Division 2 Championship by a street in 1969, within very few years won the League title and the European Cup.
Then went to Leeds, where he was sacked after 44 days.
Third Division Brighton then appointed him, where he stayed for a short while, before going to Nottingham Forest in the 2nd Division,getting promoted then next year winning the League title and then European Cup 12 months later.
Holloway has never disgraced himself at any club he has been at the helm
But who, hand on heart said when Curbishley left 'I want Ian Holloway'
I have always admired him as a manager and his views on how to get things done go down well
Remember, him and Strachan get in the youtube videos etc for their ramblings because they are in the spotlight (in employment as a manager) at successful clubs
Fair play to Holloway and that Blackpool side that rolled prima dona Charlton over three times in four meetings
[cite]Posted By: cafcdan18[/cite] As much as the money from Hudson would be nice, it would be great to see Holloway up against Wenger and the big teams visiting Bloomfield Road in December.
How much do we get for the Hudson deal if Cardiff go up?
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They're reminiscent of the Curbs side that won in 98 - no star names, but lots of hungry young players or good lower league pros who've been well organised by a good manager and play good football. They clearly don't fear anyone and the pressure is largely off them (expectation will be highest on Cardiff I'd say) and promotion to the Gravy train could be the making of a famous old name who've been down in the dul-drums but have been steadily re-building for a few years. They've even got a temporary stand down one side!
Down here in Oggyland, Ollie was manager of Plymouth Argyle for a couple of seasons and almost achieved miracles on a shoe-string, before being poached by Leicester - so I got the chance to see a lot of local coverage on how he works.
Everyone knows his quick one-liners and indomitable sense of humour ...... he's great at man-management and lifting the spirits of players. He works on building confidence and belief and taking the fear out of a player's game.
Outwardly at least he's not a worrier, and doesn't malign players for a poor performance publicly and operates on the principle of you work for me and I'll work for you". But he won't put up with player tantrums and because of the warmth and respect he generates within the squad, his senior players also won't tolerate anyone stepping out of line.
I like him. I consider him a good manager.
Why can't we be reminiscent of the Curbs side that won it in 98.
Fair call on the analysis. When Forest went 1-0 up I thought they'd finish it out and square up for a tight match against Cardiff in the final. I still want and think Cardiff will win, but wouldn't begrudge Blackpool their days in the sun if they win it, even if the Premier League could do with losing a few Lancashire teams.
There's a thread devoted to the parallels between then and now, not least of all is the run of 1-0s we've been on going into the play-offs. Unfortunately, no matter how hard you try to spin it, we don't really play good football and the pressure most definitely is not off - highest level of expectation out of the 4 teams in fact.
Blackpool? 1-0 with Adam getting the winner
unfashionable club ... yup, that's us ... charlton to go through then :-)
I think he was very unlucky to be honest.
He was the 4th manager that season, with a team of players who were bought by 3 different managers before him, & a chairman with an itchy trigger finger. I think it would have been tough for any manager going into that situation. In fairness, he did have enough time to get them out of trouble, but the rot had set in, long before he got there.(Not too dis-similar from Parkinsons situation, but only 1 idiotic manager before him, that season anyway)
I think a lot of a managers tenure will come down to luck, in the squad inherited, the finances, the mood of the club.
I don't think you can go from being a good manager to a bad one, in the space of 1 job.
He has done a fantastic job at Blackpool, & fully deserves the plaudits. Hopefully, they will complete the job, whoever they face!
Ian Holloway may be a bit of a comic at times but is no mug, a fine manager and his record at most of his clubs is excellent. Promotions on shoe strings and this season is up there with Hull and Burnley for over achivement.
As much as the money from Hudson would be nice, it would be great to see Holloway up against Wenger and the big teams visiting Bloomfield Road in December.
The one that got away was during his few months at Leicester where he nearly salvaged an impossible situation there.
He ran out of time. But he does a very decent job at clubs with little money.
;o)
Whilst i agree with your point in general, i'd just like to point out that Tony Mowbray did his best to go from being a good manager (at West brom) to a terrible one (at Celtic).
Then went to Leeds, where he was sacked after 44 days.
Third Division Brighton then appointed him, where he stayed for a short while, before going to Nottingham Forest in the 2nd Division,getting promoted then next year winning the League title and then European Cup 12 months later.
Crap manager? Maybe, lol
But who, hand on heart said when Curbishley left 'I want Ian Holloway'
I have always admired him as a manager and his views on how to get things done go down well
Remember, him and Strachan get in the youtube videos etc for their ramblings because they are in the spotlight (in employment as a manager) at successful clubs
Fair play to Holloway and that Blackpool side that rolled prima dona Charlton over three times in four meetings
How much do we get for the Hudson deal if Cardiff go up?