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  • colthe3rd
    colthe3rd Posts: 8,486
    What problem? I'm giving my opinions of him and saying IF he was on a free. People on here are still giving him abuse and even if we did sign him for nothing they would still boo him from the first game he appeared in. It would be interesting to gauge people's opinions on Waghorn were, to me he didn't look great for us but has gone on to have a good season for Leicester.
  • cafcdan18
    cafcdan18 Posts: 3,664
    Problem with signing Mooney, not only does he majorly divide fans but also if he is to come back, we will surely have to pay some fee- which simply we cannot afford. Even if he is available for nothing or part of another deal, surely we can do better.
  • Stebo
    Stebo Posts: 790
    [quote][cite]Posted By: cafcdan18[/cite], surely we can do better.[/quote]

    i'm starting to worry that we can't
  • Danny Addick
    Danny Addick Posts: 3,936
    He's not that bad but surely we won't be paying any money for him
  • boggzy
    boggzy Posts: 3,601
    [cite]Posted By: colthe3rd[/cite]People on here are still giving him abuse and even if we did sign him for nothing they would still boo him from the first game he appeared in.

    Exactly. And as rightly pointed out the same people ignore much graver errors by players who imo cared less for the cause. I also have a feeling we do have a worse element of fans for getting on certain players backs (sometimes unfairly: Kish, Hughes) - sheep mentality - than other clubs have.
  • D_F_T
    D_F_T Posts: 1,154
    Is
  • johnnybev1987
    johnnybev1987 Posts: 11,443
    [cite]Posted By: D_F_T[/cite]Is a knob

    fyp :o)

    Agree with Oggy 150%
  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 32,706
    heard that Parky is taking him to Leicester with him.
  • D_F_T
    D_F_T Posts: 1,154
    Maybe not a knob but certainly a knobhead.....and a shite footballer!

    Thanks for completing what would have been a drunken post johnnybev1987
  • colthe3rd
    colthe3rd Posts: 8,486
    What a post DFT, you have won me over with that insightful knowledge, he is shite

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  • Matt Harrold is a similar type of player but one who gives defenders a harder time, reputed to be on trial when we start training. I'd prefer better than either but beggars..............
  • D_F_T
    D_F_T Posts: 1,154
    [cite]Posted By: colthe3rd[/cite]What a post DFT, you have won me over with that insightful knowledge, he is shite

    What else needs to be said?
  • 1zamora
    1zamora Posts: 4
    For what it’s worth I can vaguely confirm what ‘Threadkiller’ said which is a shame imo as he can score goals in lg 1 and I’d imagine would be available on a free. He was very happy at the valley. In fact when his daughter was born he brought her a ‘Mooney’ Charlton shirt as he saw it as his club (as opposed to Reading or even Liverpool who he supports). But the abuse he got by the ‘fans’ when he was having an off game was ridiculous and if he’s got offers elsewhere then who would blame him?
    re cafcdan18 saying that the abuse received from other league 1 clubs would be worse - I disagree. I've been to a lot of league 1 grounds in the last few years following Brighton and I can think of very few that were more negative than the valley last season in abusing their own players.
  • Oggy Red
    Oggy Red Posts: 44,980
    [cite]Posted By: 1zamora[/cite]I've been to a lot of league 1 grounds in the last few years following Brighton and I can think of very few that were more negative than the valley last season in abusing their own players.

    There speaks another club's supporter and his impressions of a toxic Valley.
  • cafcdan18
    cafcdan18 Posts: 3,664
    Fair comments 1zamora but in my humble, I struggle to see Mooney ever being a fans favourite if he plays like he did when he was at Charlton. He did have some very good games but he also had a few stinkers, it has been a long time since I have seen a player divide opinion so much. Even though I see Mooney's strengths and why he can be an asset, the guy has a lot of weaknesses and at his age, it is hardly as if there is much room for development.

    Maybe I am being very naive by thinking The Valley faithful are not the worst about, but I still think Mooney would face similar treatment at a fair amount of League 1 clubs. Maybe not boos after only a handful of appearances, which for the record I am complete against (the booing of Mooney was a disgrace) but I think he would certainly divide opinions elsewhere and many fans would feel like those at Charlton and ultimately think Mooney is not good enough.
  • Kap10
    Kap10 Posts: 15,605
    [quote][cite]Posted By: cafcdan18[/cite]Fair comments 1zamora but in my humble, I struggle to see Mooney ever being a fans favourite if he plays like he did when he was at Charlton. He did have some very good games but he also had a few stinkers, it has been a long time since I have seen a player divide opinion so much. Even though I see Mooney's strengths and why he can be an asset, the guy has a lot of weaknesses and at his age, it is hardly as if there is much room for development.

    Maybe I am being very naive by thinking The Valley faithful are not the worst about, but I still think Mooney would face similar treatment at a fair amount of League 1 clubs. Maybe not boos after only a handful of appearances, which for the record I am complete against (the booing of Mooney was a disgrace) but I think he would certainly divide opinions elsewhere and many fans would feel like those at Charlton and ultimately think Mooney is not good enough.[/quote]

    Charlton fans used to be very forgiving, it took some years for them to get on the back of Lisbie and if anyone remembers Barry Endean you'll remember a forward brought on a goalscoring record who was fat round and could not score for the life of him. Now it feels that the crowd are just waiting to pounce on anyone that comes in, unles they are Prem standard or a multi million pound prospect, actually I take that back because Jonjo got loads of abuse where i sat and i recall that his family took shit after a game last season (Orient away?).

    Mooney is not brilliant but he is not the worst in the Division and why we are wasting so much time on him when we don't even hear any rumours that he is coming back I don't know. With the money we don't have Parkie is probably lining up a real donkey to come in and using the Mooney debate as a smokescreen.
  • oohaahmortimer
    oohaahmortimer Posts: 34,252
    [cite]Posted By: Kap10[/cite]With the money we don't have Parkie is probably lining up a real donkey to come in


    mmmmmmmmmmmm let me think hasn't he already done that!
  • Salad
    Salad Posts: 10,189
    edited July 2010
    I doubt any other league one ground can top ours for the negative nature of its vocal support - been this way for a few years now and often referred to by visiting managers.
  • ThreadKiller
    ThreadKiller Posts: 8,630
    if we'd not questioned anything and accepted everything thinking positive thoughts, we wouldn't be in this mess. FACT!
  • oohaahmortimer
    oohaahmortimer Posts: 34,252
    [cite]Posted By: Salad[/cite]I doubt any other league one club's fans can top ours for negativity - been this way for a few years now and often referred to by visiting managers.

    lol , negativity ... wtf has there been since king curbs left that is positive .... am i missing something , should we all just say we're happy with our lot!

    you wont find more positive fans than those that travel to follow england and they only booed once , at the end of the algeria game and we won the next game !

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  • mart77
    mart77 Posts: 5,658
    Mooney been told he is free to leave by Reading.
  • Sign him up. I don't mind a player having the odd stinker of a game. It happens to the best of players. The most important thing is that he has proved that he has the talent to be a good player. Good coaching, experience and confidence will decrease the frequency of his bad games.
  • Paddy7
    Paddy7 Posts: 1,663
    I wasn't his biggest fan last season, primarily because of his lack of bottle but he clearly has talent. If he can toughen up a bit and not be expected to be our leading scorer he might still be a useful back-up option. Right now I'd prefer Bauza and needless to say, a goal-scorer.
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,327
    Interesting. Plays a similar game to Bauza according to reports. Which to choose?

    One looks good in pre-season but lots of injuries, the other has scored for us but has flaws in his game.
  • GRAY9
    GRAY9 Posts: 1,092
    I thought he had a great game in 2nd leg of play off semi.
  • Richard J
    Richard J Posts: 8,034
    I wouldn't have paid a fee for him but we do need a squad so why not have both Bauza and Mooney. we are going to need some commpetition for places.
  • Ormiston_Addick
    Ormiston_Addick Posts: 8,817
    Sign him now, there won't be many better than him going on a free.

    I would rather sign him than Burton who obviously wants out anyway.
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,327
    Limited budget remember.

    We can't sign all of Dailly, Fortune, mooney, Bauza, Reid, Francis, Ketteridge, Thorvalson, Basey, bejesus, etc etc as we can't afford all of them.
  • falconwood_1
    falconwood_1 Posts: 7,368
    You know our budget Henry?
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,327
    [cite]Posted By: falconwood_1[/cite]You know our budget Henry?

    yes, thanks. All the Clique members were sent the matrix two weeks ago.

    Doesn't make pretty reading I can say.