The Milliband brothers are both slime balls. Trying to distance themselves from the old regime saying they had nothing to do with invading Iraq when they were actually balls deep in it all. Then again I don't care, it is Labour after all...
There's not much to choose politically so I've gone for David Milliband , as the more likely potential PM out of the two brothers. I think either brother are a lot better than either Cameron or Clegg .The next few years are going to be rocky to say the least . The most disappointing thing about the Lib Dems is that many people voted for them to keep the Tories out not prop them up.
I couldn't vote for Abbott after sending her son to private school having berated Blair and Harman for sending their kids to Grant Maintained State (but not private ) schools, I thought Andy Burnham was way OTT about Hillsborough and doesn't look like a Leader . Edd Balls similarly doesn't come accross well in the modern media age.
I just hope whoever wins can rebuild Labour as a Party that speaks up for the vulnerable in society.
[cite]Posted By: Richard J[/cite]There's not much to choose politically so I've gone for David Milliband , as the more likely potential PM out of the two brothers. I think either brother are a lot better than either Cameron or Clegg .The next few years are going to be rocky to say the least . The most disappointing thing about the Lib Dems is that many people voted for them to keep the Tories out not prop them up.
I couldn't vote for Abbott after sending her son to private school having berated Blair and Harman for sending their kids to Grant Maintained State (but not private ) schools, I thought Andy Burnham was way OTT about Hillsborough and doesn't look like a Leader . Edd Balls similarly doesn't come accross well in the modern media age.
I just hope whoever wins can rebuild Labour as a Party that speaks up for the vulnerable in society.
I thought early in the campaign Balls came across well and would make a good opposition leader, but a poor Prime Minister, David Mill looks too much like Mr bean to be taken seriously, so its Ed Milliband for me.
I did this computer test and it said Diane Abbott, so her. It was nice to find out I'm a socialist.
I like the way Ed Miliband says he's the best man to "move on" and "turn the page" - wasn't he the one who wrote their manifesto?
I agree with what Floyd Montana said, in a way. I voted Lib Dem because I liked their policies most and wanted to put them in government. I'm happier with the current government than a dolly mix of 'non-Conservatives', and much happier with this government than a single party Con or Lab government.
I think this part of a recent interview piece with David Miliband sums up the difference:
"Does he connect with people? They certainly seem dazzled by his confidence, and by the smoothness of an encounter – but his gaze often tends to slide away before the words "Nice to see you!" are out of his mouth. As he moves on, many look impressed – but I think I see others walk away feeling slightly used.
Out on the campaign trail with his brother Ed, I never saw anyone he met look star-struck. Every single one, though, had looked affected by the surprise of being genuinely heard."
Ed is imo by far the better candidate, but the main question over his head is whether he can win an election (David will probably be good at winning elections in the same way Tony Blair was). But who knows; after 5 years of Clegg and Cameron, I imagine someone a bit less slick might poll well.
[cite]Posted By: IA[/cite]I didthis computer testand it said Diane Abbott, so her. It was nice to find out I'm a socialist.
I like the way Ed Miliband says he's the best man to "move on" and "turn the page" - wasn't he the one who wrote their manifesto?
He did, but of course writing it and directing the content are two very different things. He was far less complicit in everything than David Miliband, and that's why he's been able to campaign on a 'clean break' type angle, while David can't.
With the exception of Abbott, they all seem to be part of the leadership that led the labour party into the mess it is currently in!
Albeit that I lost all respect for Ms Abbott when she sent her own child to a private school, easy to talk socialism , more difficult when it comes to practising it eh Diana.......
I think there will be quite a difficulty in selecting a winner from this lot, Burnham seems the lesser of a evil, but none really have the charisma, let alone the policies that would want to make you want to vote for them.
Ed Balls, he has more macro-economic ideas than the Tory cabinet put together. Only problem is I don't really like Ed Balls, but he fully understands Keynsian economics and not the fif-faffing singular Cameron/Osborne policy magic American wand policy.
Is Ballsy right, well one thing's for sure anyone implementing economic policy has to be open to both fiscal and monetarist policy when required of them. I very much doubt if Cameron/Osborne have the brains to react to another crisis. Whilst Ed Balls is probably the most capable strategy wise, his personality can not resist grinding repetitive attacks on individuals on the opposite side to his debate. It's a personality trait that will eventually alienate the simple British public, who wish for change and then vote in Tory Blair II who only happens to be a direct descendant of William IV.
As for Ed Milliband being part of the Iraq war?????? How did an MP elected in 2005 vote in 2002-3????? Simples no? Sure he no doubt supported it on the party line, but he was at Harvard and building contact with John Kerry in 2003.
[cite]Posted By: ColinTat[/cite]Ed Balls, he has more macro-economic ideas than the Tory cabinet put together. Only problem is I don't really like Ed Balls, but he fully understands Keynsian economics and not the fif-faffing singular Cameron/Osborne policy magic American wand policy.
Is Ballsy right, well one thing's for sure anyone implementing economic policy has to be open to both fiscal and monetarist policy when required of them. I very much doubt if Cameron/Osborne have the brains to react to another crisis. Whilst Ed Balls is probably the most capable strategy wise, his personality can not resist grinding repetitive attacks on individuals on the opposite side to his debate. It's a personality trait that will eventually alienate the simple British public, who wish for change and then vote in Tory Blair II who only happens to be a direct descendant of William IV.
As for Ed Milliband being part of the Iraq war?????? How did an MP elected in 2005 vote in 2002-3????? Simples no? Sure he no doubt supported it on the party line, but he was at Harvard and building contact with John Kerry in 2003.
How about Ed Balls as the Shadow Chancellor with a charismatic and electable leader as the figurehead of the party? The vast majority of this country aren't exactly clued up.
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I just hope whoever wins can rebuild Labour as a Party that speaks up for the vulnerable in society. Richard j quote.
I just hope the shower of shite never see Downing Street again.
In Blairs autobiography he apparently says he knew Brown would be disaster (I don't know the exact wording) but had to keep quite 'for the unity of the party'. Now to me this says' f**k the country my only concern is the party'. We will be paying the price of 15 years of Labour for generations to come. How anyone can vote Labour after all this God only knows.
Diane Abbott, at least she is honest in a socialist labour way, tells you what you should do then does the opposite herself. None of them look like future pm's, though ed looks and sounds more normal than David, just, are all Davids geeks, all those I have known have been.
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Proper socialist.
Failing that, Brown still has friends in his party.
Or George Galloway
I couldn't vote for Abbott after sending her son to private school having berated Blair and Harman for sending their kids to Grant Maintained State (but not private ) schools, I thought Andy Burnham was way OTT about Hillsborough and doesn't look like a Leader . Edd Balls similarly doesn't come accross well in the modern media age.
I just hope whoever wins can rebuild Labour as a Party that speaks up for the vulnerable in society.
Same as Soapy
Maybe many people voted LibDem to keep Labour out?
I thought early in the campaign Balls came across well and would make a good opposition leader, but a poor Prime Minister, David Mill looks too much like Mr bean to be taken seriously, so its Ed Milliband for me.
I like the way Ed Miliband says he's the best man to "move on" and "turn the page" - wasn't he the one who wrote their manifesto?
I agree with what Floyd Montana said, in a way. I voted Lib Dem because I liked their policies most and wanted to put them in government. I'm happier with the current government than a dolly mix of 'non-Conservatives', and much happier with this government than a single party Con or Lab government.
I think this part of a recent interview piece with David Miliband sums up the difference:
"Does he connect with people? They certainly seem dazzled by his confidence, and by the smoothness of an encounter – but his gaze often tends to slide away before the words "Nice to see you!" are out of his mouth. As he moves on, many look impressed – but I think I see others walk away feeling slightly used.
Out on the campaign trail with his brother Ed, I never saw anyone he met look star-struck. Every single one, though, had looked affected by the surprise of being genuinely heard."
Ed is imo by far the better candidate, but the main question over his head is whether he can win an election (David will probably be good at winning elections in the same way Tony Blair was). But who knows; after 5 years of Clegg and Cameron, I imagine someone a bit less slick might poll well.
He did, but of course writing it and directing the content are two very different things. He was far less complicit in everything than David Miliband, and that's why he's been able to campaign on a 'clean break' type angle, while David can't.
Albeit that I lost all respect for Ms Abbott when she sent her own child to a private school, easy to talk socialism , more difficult when it comes to practising it eh Diana.......
I think there will be quite a difficulty in selecting a winner from this lot, Burnham seems the lesser of a evil, but none really have the charisma, let alone the policies that would want to make you want to vote for them.
Is Ballsy right, well one thing's for sure anyone implementing economic policy has to be open to both fiscal and monetarist policy when required of them. I very much doubt if Cameron/Osborne have the brains to react to another crisis. Whilst Ed Balls is probably the most capable strategy wise, his personality can not resist grinding repetitive attacks on individuals on the opposite side to his debate. It's a personality trait that will eventually alienate the simple British public, who wish for change and then vote in Tory Blair II who only happens to be a direct descendant of William IV.
As for Ed Milliband being part of the Iraq war?????? How did an MP elected in 2005 vote in 2002-3????? Simples no? Sure he no doubt supported it on the party line, but he was at Harvard and building contact with John Kerry in 2003.
I'd vote for Diane.
I just hope whoever wins can rebuild Labour as a Party that speaks up for the vulnerable in society. Richard j quote.
I just hope the shower of shite never see Downing Street again.
In Blairs autobiography he apparently says he knew Brown would be disaster (I don't know the exact wording) but had to keep quite 'for the unity of the party'. Now to me this says' f**k the country my only concern is the party'. We will be paying the price of 15 years of Labour for generations to come. How anyone can vote Labour after all this God only knows.
Not one of them will cause the govt to lose any sleep.
Milliband D will probably win but he is a total geek - a backroom policy wonk - devoid of any leadership skills from what I've seen of him.
Would have liked to have seen Alan Johnson run and also Harman so at least there was a credible female candidate.
About time the so-called party of equality had a female leader shurely?