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ColinTat
ColinTat Posts: 2,794
edited November 2010 in Fun, Jokes & Captions
Right you should use an in front of a vowel to avoid a gloital stop yeah?

Should you say 'Not worried about an FA Cup loss' or 'Not worried about a FA cup loss'. Or the opposite!

Seems to me in the flow of a sentence 'an FA Cup', flows nicer especially if you're from the SE.

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  • stonemuse
    stonemuse Posts: 33,995
    Agreed it should be 'an', we pronounce it 'eff' therefore it starts with a vowel ;-)
  • Leroy Ambrose
    Leroy Ambrose Posts: 14,435
    [cite]Posted By: ColinTat[/cite]Right you should use an in front of a vowel to avoid a gloital stop yeah?

    Should you say 'Not worried about an FA Cup loss' or 'Not worried about a FA cup loss'. Or the opposite!

    Seems to me in the flow of a sentence 'an FA Cup', flows nicer especially if you're from the SE.

    'Whoa'
    'Glottal'

    You want to concentrate on your spelling before you move onto grammar. :)
  • ColinTat
    ColinTat Posts: 2,794
    Cool! With my simple grammatical mind I couldn't work it out. Cheers.
  • charente addick
    charente addick Posts: 3,808
    Careful - this sort of thread always invites the pedants who constantly pick people on use of apostrophie's (usually those who were crap at maths)
  • Macronate
    Macronate Posts: 12,890
    "Ain't worried about an FA Cup loss".
  • MrOneLung
    MrOneLung Posts: 26,836
    [cite]Posted By: charente addick[/cite]Careful - this sort of thread always invites the pedants who constantly pick people on use of apostrophie's (usually those who were crap at maths)

    what are apostrophie's ????
  • redman
    redman Posts: 5,285
    Quotr from an English teacher "Should be ‘a FA Cup’ as you only change it to an before a vowel (a,e,i,o,u). Trouble is a few people from Oxbridge started to use it before ‘h’ and it stuck."
  • Chizz
    Chizz Posts: 28,331
    [cite]Posted By: redman[/cite]Quotr from an English teacher "Should be ‘a FA Cup’ as you only change it to an before a vowel (a,e,i,o,u). Trouble is a few people from Oxbridge started to use it before ‘h’ and it stuck."
    "Quote"
  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 37,973
    couldnt give a shit bout losin in football cup

    there you go.
  • RedZed333
    RedZed333 Posts: 3,103
    Grammar, who gives a fuck about about an grammar..?
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  • Jints
    Jints Posts: 3,488
    edited November 2010
    [cite]Posted By: redman[/cite]Quotr from an English teacher "Should be ‘a FA Cup’ as you only change it to an before a vowel (a,e,i,o,u). Trouble is a few people from Oxbridge started to use it before ‘h’ and it stuck."

    Teacher is wrong. You use "an" in front of a vowel sound. It's a "sound" rule not a "spelling" rule.

    She went to a university
    Jonjo has an uncle

    I work in a hotel. If you drop your haitches, it's fine to use "an" here.
    It is only for an hour.

    Charlton have won an FA Cup
    I don't give a f**k about Millwall.
  • sadiejane1981
    sadiejane1981 Posts: 9,012
    [cite]Posted By: Jints[/cite]
    [cite]Posted By: redman[/cite]Quotr from an English teacher "Should be ‘a FA Cup’ as you only change it to an before a vowel (a,e,i,o,u). Trouble is a few people from Oxbridge started to use it before ‘h’ and it stuck."

    Teacher is wrong. You use "an" in front of a vowel sound. It's a "sound" rule not a "spelling" rule.

    She went to a university
    Jonjo has an uncle

    I work in a hotel. If you drop your haitches, it's fine to use "an" here.
    It is only for an hour.

    Charlton have won an FA Cup
    I don't give a f**k about Millwall.

    That is correct.
  • thenewbie
    thenewbie Posts: 11,000
    If you're confused, just ask renowned literary expert Johnathan Ackworth for advice. He's written a book after all...
  • Jayajosh
    Jayajosh Posts: 2,877
    Like I would say 'Right, you should use an in front...' instead of 'Right you should use an in front...'.

    Here's an example, 'Right said Fred...' or 'Right, said Fred..'.

    Call me pedantic...!
  • ColinTat
    ColinTat Posts: 2,794
    If there's one person I'd never listen to on the beautiful English language, it's an English teacher. So fucked up on their grammar rules, you couldn't split their infinitive flared suit. I'm in the sound camp, we speak modern English and it's all about the great vowel shift baby. All in the sound, not some fucking poncey Victorian rulebook.

    Ohhhoooooo don't put a commar after and,,,,,,, that's just wrong! Stick that down your gloitis Leroy. :)
  • stackitsteve
    stackitsteve Posts: 12,102
    Jints makes the most sense to me
  • Oggy Red
    Oggy Red Posts: 44,954
    [cite]Posted By: Jayajosh[/cite]Like I would say 'Right, you should use an in front...' instead of 'Right you should use an in front...'.

    Here's an example, 'Right said Fred...' or 'Right, said Fred..'.

    Call me pedantic...!

    Dear Pedantic,

    Shouldn't that be, "Right", said Fred?

    Or have I pedantically got it wrong ....?
  • RodneyCharltonTrotta
    RodneyCharltonTrotta Posts: 14,827
    edited November 2010
    Aren't you also supposed to put "an" (as opposed to a) in front of some words ie "an historic day at the Valley"?
  • DRF
    DRF Posts: 2,455
    [cite]Posted By: redman[/cite]Quotr from an English teacher "Should be ‘a FA Cup’ as you only change it to an before a vowel (a,e,i,o,u). Trouble is a few people from Oxbridge started to use it before ‘h’ and it stuck."

    It's more to do with words derived from French than Oxbridge folk.
  • Oggy Red
    Oggy Red Posts: 44,954
    edited November 2010
    Even the French come unstuck at times, though .......the French for, "I have had" = "J'ai eu", pronounced with no liason consonant inbetween - a bit like the sound you make just before you throw up.

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