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England Vs France
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Thank you, dabos. I was wrong. As you say, there hasn't been the same chance to play the top sides. Croatia and Ukraine were big matches against good sides.0
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[cite]Posted By: dabos[/cite][cite]Posted By: IA[/cite]ValleyGary, can you correct me on this one? I don't know if I'm wrong or right but I always had the feeling that Crouch's scoring record was mostly against the Kazakhstans and Trinidad & Tobagos of this world rather than France, Holland etc. Maybe I'm wrong about that, and he did score last night, but thought I'd ask.
I think you're right, but to be honest we haven't played that many top sides over the last few years so we can't blame him for not scoring against teams we haven't played against. The same argument could probably be leveled at Rooney.
Crouch'sinternational goalshave come against Uruguay, Hungary, Jamaica, Trinidad & Tobago, Greece, Andorra, Macedonia, Estonia, Austria, Croatia, Ukraine, Andorra, Belarus, Egypt, Mexico and France.
fair point IA, but as dabos says we havent really played anyone of note and when we have capello is reluctant to use him. We have Argentina in Feb, he needs to play crouch for atleast 45 mins and see what happens.0 -
Harry Redknapp is the only man that will get us anywhere near the semi finals of a major tournament.
Stop throwing money a glamour coaches and tarnishing their club records FA and appoint him.0 -
No one is going to get us near any semi finals with the players we've got. It's the legacy of having a Service economy league0
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[cite]Posted By: Rothko[/cite]No one is going to get us near any semi finals with the players we've got. It's the legacy of having a Service economy league
Exactly. We are years behind the likes of Spain, Holland and Germany, we wouldn't beat Brazil or Argentina, we proved last night we're behind France and i doubt we'd beat Portugal either.0 -
Was there a game last night then?0
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[cite]Posted By: ISawLeaburnScore[/cite]Gerrard was good? Had a shocker from where I was sitting. Missed two sitters and ball after ball given away.
I'd like to see SG's opta stats on England appearances, when he's not exchanging passes with the defence (rather than making himself available further up the field) he is giving the ball away. The sooner he is consigned to the "this guy has consistently failed his country bin" the better. Gareth Barry? Don't get me started!0 -
The thing is, the Bundersliga isn't a million miles away from the Premier League in terms of atmosphere, excitement and culture, yet it's packed full of German players, all with great technique who can go on and play at the highest level. Look at Ozil, Khedira and Boateng, all came through the Bundersliga youth system, did for the U21's and then handed us our arses on a plate in the summer.
The Premier League is the problem0 -
There's a lot of pressure on the likes of hart, gibbs, wilshere, carroll etc now. The 'golden generation' have done naff all and patience isn't exactly going to be strong unfortunately...as if the incapableness of their predecessors is their fault though.0
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[cite]Posted By: Rothko[/cite]The thing is, the Bundersliga isn't a million miles away from the Premier League in terms of atmosphere, excitement and culture, yet it's packed full of German players, all with great technique who can go on and play at the highest level. Look at Ozil, Khedira and Boateng, all came through the Bundersliga youth system, did for the U21's and then handed us our arses on a plate in the summer.
The Premier League is the problem
I think while people try and cast around for a single simple reason why England are a second tier team, it'll never change. It wasn't a slight change in Spanish mentality that changed them from also rans into all conquering bulldozers.0 -
To be fair to Nani i think it's just a natural instinct to see the ball there and finish it off. Having said that the ball looked like it was over the line anyway.
Ronaldo certainly made Pique look stupid though!0 -
[cite]Posted By: Mortimerician[/cite][cite aria-level=0 aria-posinset=0 aria-setsize=0]Posted By: Rothko[/cite]The thing is, the Bundersliga isn't a million miles away from the Premier League in terms of atmosphere, excitement and culture, yet it's packed full of German players, all with great technique who can go on and play at the highest level. Look at Ozil, Khedira and Boateng, all came through the Bundersliga youth system, did for the U21's and then handed us our arses on a plate in the summer.
The Premier League is the problem
I think while people try and cast around for a single simple reason why England are a second tier team, it'll never change. It wasn't a slight change in Spanish mentality that changed them from also rans into all conquering bulldozers.
brilliant post that0 -
David Ginola nails the problem here....
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/9207550.stm
Of course, nothing like this will ever happen.0