I've never been a great fan but there is no doubt that he has had a big influence on generations of musicians. I remember John Peel being a particularly big fan
Sad that he has died, but can't understand the media frenzy to report this. He meant nothing to UK record buyers when he was 'big' in the US, and as for being 'original', all that I have heard by him is heavily blues-derived. Perhaps he was an original conduit to the blues for white America?
Sad that he has died, but can't understand the media frenzy to report this. He meant nothing to UK record buyers when he was 'big' in the US, and as for being 'original', all that I have heard by him is heavily blues-derived. Perhaps he was an original conduit to the blues for white America?
Not quite sure about that Solar.......
John Peel, could not mention the captain without a week passing in the 70s........ and John had a decent feel for these things...... Trout Mask Replica, ranked fifty-eighth in Rolling Stone magazine's 2003 list of the 500 greatest albums of all time. And his work on Zappa's Hot Rat's, was wonderful, and probably one of the greatest progressive rock\jazz albums of all time.
A modern day bluesman, so never gonna be mainstream..... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4M5YE_a4B1U&feature=related
His vocals on Willie, converted me....... 'Willie the pimp' I'm a little pimp with my hair gassed back Pair a khacki pants with my shoes shined black Got a little lady...walk the street Tellin' all the boys that she can't be beat Twenny dollah bill (I can set you straight) Meet me onna corner boy'n don't be late ( From: http://www.elyrics.net/read/f/frank-zappa-lyrics/willie-the-pimp-lyrics.html ) Man in a suite with bow-tie neck Wanna buy a grunt with a third party check Standin' onna porch of the Lido Hotel Floozies in the lobby love the way I sell:HOT MEAT HOT RATSHOT ZITSHOT WRISTS HOT RITZHOT ROOTSHOT SOOTS
[cite]Posted By: Solaraddick[/cite]Sad that he has died, but can't understand the media frenzy to report this. He meant nothing to UK record buyers when he was 'big' in the US, and as for being 'original', all that I have heard by him is heavily blues-derived. Perhaps he was an original conduit to the blues for white America?
A strong blues background, yes, but the Captain was truly original I would say.
Check out 'Strictly Personal' and you'll get the idea.
I prefer to spend my time listening to real blues.Dave, rather than making an effort to hear Beefheart, Joplin, etc, who I only tend to hear in the context of Radio 2 specialist shows. I take your point re John Peel giving airplay, Ken, but he was one of very few that did in the UK. I remain bewildered as to why this was considered of sufficient consequence to make the BBC national news headlines - unless, of course, the news editor was a fan....
Well when i first heard him when I was a spotty know nothing teenager in the 70s I thought he was pretty shite tbh but there's a performance he did on the Old Grey Bastard Test which I saw recently somewhere which I liked just because it was something different. For me one of those people that whether they rock your world or not, it's good to know they are out there doing something different.
Beefheart was influenced by the blues, but he moved out of that genre. Genius, very sad. Many's the evening I spent smoking cheroots and listening to Doc at the Radar Station in my youth....
[cite]Posted By: Solaraddick[/cite]I prefer to spend my time listening to real blues.Dave, rather than making an effort to hear Beefheart, Joplin, etc, who I only tend to hear in the context of Radio 2 specialist shows.
There's no rule that says you can't do both. Give me Robert Johnson, Blind Lemon Jefferson, Charlie Patton and Bukka White all day. But the Captain built on blues roots and made a different sound. And fair play to him for that.
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RIP Captain...
He was a good painter as well
Not quite sure about that Solar.......
John Peel, could not mention the captain without a week passing in the 70s........ and John had a decent feel for these things...... Trout Mask Replica, ranked fifty-eighth in Rolling Stone magazine's 2003 list of the 500 greatest albums of all time. And his work on Zappa's Hot Rat's, was wonderful, and probably one of the greatest progressive rock\jazz albums of all time.
A modern day bluesman, so never gonna be mainstream.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4M5YE_a4B1U&feature=related
His vocals on Willie, converted me.......
'Willie the pimp'
I'm a little pimp with my hair gassed back
Pair a khacki pants with my shoes shined black
Got a little lady...walk the street
Tellin' all the boys that she can't be beat
Twenny dollah bill (I can set you straight)
Meet me onna corner boy'n don't be late
( From: http://www.elyrics.net/read/f/frank-zappa-lyrics/willie-the-pimp-lyrics.html )
Man in a suite with bow-tie neck
Wanna buy a grunt with a third party check
Standin' onna porch of the Lido Hotel
Floozies in the lobby love the way I sell:HOT MEAT
HOT RATSHOT ZITSHOT WRISTS
HOT RITZHOT ROOTSHOT SOOTS
A strong blues background, yes, but the Captain was truly original I would say.
Check out 'Strictly Personal' and you'll get the idea.
I take your point re John Peel giving airplay, Ken, but he was one of very few that did in the UK.
I remain bewildered as to why this was considered of sufficient consequence to make the BBC national news headlines - unless, of course, the news editor was a fan....
For me one of those people that whether they rock your world or not, it's good to know they are out there doing something different.
There's no rule that says you can't do both. Give me Robert Johnson, Blind Lemon Jefferson, Charlie Patton and Bukka White all day. But the Captain built on blues roots and made a different sound. And fair play to him for that.