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Why would Wise be a bad choice as the next manager...

Oakster
Oakster Posts: 6,812
edited January 2011 in General Charlton
in purely footballing terms only please.
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  • Funny thread

    why would he in purely footballing terms only be a good choice?
  • AFKABartram
    AFKABartram Posts: 58,154
    So if we signed Marlon King as a striker would we only be able to judge it on football terms only ?
  • nolly
    nolly Posts: 12,122
    his no marlon king mate
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,747
    Can be argued that his decent record as manager was down to having Poyet as his assistant manager. Better off asking Swindon and Leeds fans though.
  • PopIcon
    PopIcon Posts: 5,970
    Fergie is quoted saying "dennis wise could start a fight in an empty room"
  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 38,192
    i dont think he would be - obviously ex millwall which is shite but i think he might be a decent choice. managerial record is okay, probably got some good contacts with higher clubs should he want to bring in loans, and he wont accept half hearted performances especially from our centre midfield.

    we could do a lot worse imo and not too much better.
  • Bexley Dan
    Bexley Dan Posts: 3,658
    I may be wrong but the only thing i can think of that he's actually been guilty of is whacking a taxi driver and lets face it, some of them deserve a whack (joke). People i know that have met him say he's a nice fella. Again, he's one of those that if there on your side (eg Bellamy, Dickov, Savage) you'll love him - if he's on the opposition you'll think he's an irritating cxxt. Its about time we had someone with a bit of bite if you ask me. And p.s - Ferguson has said that about at least a dozen people and lets face it, so could he and he aint a bad manager is he?
  • creepyaddick
    creepyaddick Posts: 6,152
    Half time fights team talks would be good fun!
  • Elthamaddick
    Elthamaddick Posts: 15,964
    what VG and Bexley Dan said.
  • creepyaddick
    creepyaddick Posts: 6,152
    [cite]Posted By: Bexley Dan[/cite]the only thing i can think of that he's actually been guilty of is whacking a taxi driver and lets face it, some of them deserve a whack (joke).

    Being a cabbie, I 100% agree with you!

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  • To quote Sir Bobby Robson

    “My biggest disappointment was Dennis Wise, a director of football who was hardly seen at the ground, and who brought in players who were neither suitable, nor right, for Newcastle United.”

    “I forgive most people, but I am not sure I can forgive Wise for what he did to my club.
  • Bexley Dan
    Bexley Dan Posts: 3,658
    Wise will hold fort then move upstairs when Poyet and Zola join up in summer is my guess. This is going to be big and no half hearted effort - i may be getting carried away but i can sense we are at the start of something very good here.
  • tangoflash
    tangoflash Posts: 10,799
    well, if "cheeky" Dennis gets the gig then i hope he can convince Ray Wilkins to be his assistant, think its more than a coincidence that chelsea have slumped since sacking him.
  • _MrDick
    _MrDick Posts: 13,147
    Ladbrokes have stopped taking bets on Dennis Wise being the next Charlton Manager
  • carly burn
    carly burn Posts: 19,645
    Still wanted in connection with smashing up the Blue Peter garden.It's a no from me.
  • T_C_E
    T_C_E Posts: 16,451
    [cite]Posted By: Valley McMoist[/cite]Ladbrokes have stopped taking bets on Dennis Wise being the next Charlton Manager

    So has Billy Hills
  • Not got a problem with Wise at all being Charlton manager. He was a winner and winners don't like losing so that bodes well for Charlton IMHO.
  • Oggy Red
    Oggy Red Posts: 44,990
    [cite]Posted By: Valley McMoist[/cite]Ladbrokes have stopped taking bets on Dennis Wise being the next Charlton Manager

    Isn't that based on the number of punters placing bets rather than any factual information ....?
  • Salad
    Salad Posts: 10,189
    if Wise were to be the next manager I'm sure he is an honest enough guy not to tell all his mates to put money on it
  • E=mc2
    E=mc2 Posts: 311
    The Answer to the question is easy.
    His Shit.

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  • ThreadKiller
    ThreadKiller Posts: 8,640
    [cite]Posted By: Bexley Dan[/cite]but the only thing i can think of that he's actually been guilty of is whacking a taxi driver

    Wise Breaks Jaw of Sleeping Team Mate
  • Martomoto
    Martomoto Posts: 119
    Because to my mind his track record doesn't suggest he's likely to take us any further forward than Parky would have. He's also unpopular with the fans so won't be given any time if results don't go well.
  • North Lower Neil
    North Lower Neil Posts: 23,123
    edited January 2011
    [cite]Posted By: ThreadKiller[/cite]
    [cite]Posted By: Bexley Dan[/cite]but the only thing i can think of that he's actually been guilty of is whacking a taxi driver

    Wise Breaks Jaw of Sleeping Team Mate

    Then sued them for £2.5 million when they were massively in debt, despite already having another job.

    In pure footballing terms, he's not done as well without Poyet, so I'd worry he was the brains behind any success.
  • He's a prick.

    Blames other players, signs has beens or friends, tries to be the centre of attention, has a smarmy grin.

    As a player he was very good for us at our level. As a manager he failed at the end of the day. Yes he was in charge of us when we reached the FA Cup Final, but we played teams we should be beating; he then blamed Harris in the final, waged a one man game against Keane & Scholes, picked his own son as the teams mascot and went out with one up front without an ounce of attacking spirit.

    The team he left us with was playing awful football and was a woeful squad.

    I really don't see him being the right man for you. He knows sod all about the lower leagues either.
  • PragueAddick
    PragueAddick Posts: 22,271
    Once again

    1. If he was a good manager, bigger clubs than us would have wanted to hire him. Seen the queue?

    2. Anyone who ignores bad references from Sir Bobby Robson is unwise.

    3. this whole thing about him being a 'winner'. what's that about? That he starts fights? Tell me something guys,at least those of you old enough, when you wtched Curbs and Gritty as players, which of the two looked like the 'winner' the one who would sort things out in the dressing room, send out players who'd die for the shirt?

    If they bring in Wise, all my previous positive comments about the new owners are null and void. However I don't think it will be, otherwise you wouldnt nominate temporary managers.Wise is unemployed and a mate of Jiminez. There'd be no meetings to set up.
  • Cardinal Sin
    Cardinal Sin Posts: 5,233
    PA - testing the water before making an announcement?
  • I don't think he would be a bad choice. His record is a dam site better than Parky's

    It's just the moral we have never done anything wrong bunch that moan about him as a bloke rather than focusing on his management of football teams.
  • He started well at Swindon and jumped ship after a few months as soon as Leeds came knocking.
    He started ok at Leeds and left soon after Poyet moved on - again, didn't hang around long.
    Went to Newcastle and upset everyone.
    One-dimensional player with no track record.
  • PragueAddick
    PragueAddick Posts: 22,271
    SLL

    Thanks for that, mate. Earlier today I was thinking that we should ask you.

    Cardinal Sin

    I don't think so. If they would even think of bringing in Wise as manager, it would show they don't give a flying fornication what we think. if on the other hand they bring him in as director of football with someone who already knows him, and accepts and understands his role, I'd be a bit more relaxed. Obviously Poyet fits that bill, but that isnt going to happen. Another good Chelsea guy who worked with him, that would be OK. Steve Clarke, or Wilkins. But I have no idea.
  • WSS
    WSS Posts: 25,118
    If a Millwall fan is warning us off of him it says a lot.