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buying and selling on ebay

edited March 2011 in Not Sports Related
Im hoping to make a profit from buying and selling on ebay and hopefully specialise in something sell. I know its hard to find a decent wholesaler and one you can trust.

Just wondering if anyone has done this before to make a profitable business, has any advice or knows good people to buy from.

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    edited March 2011
    [url=null]http://www.peacockauction.co.uk/[/url]

    Bundles of cheap bankrupt stock if your willing to travel 40 miles north of London.

    It's where i buy stock to sell on Ebay and it gives me a nice extra income. Be carefull of those Ebay and paypal fees ! they can be a killer.
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    Mother in Law trawls boot sales and sells on after tarting up, she does quite nicely out of it.
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    [quote][cite]Posted By: Kap10[/cite]Mother in Law trawls boot sales and sells on after tarting up, she does quite nicely out of it.[/quote]

    Makes her sound like a hooker - god forbid!!
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    Yea, you've gotta watch those ebay charges. A friend of mine has a product for which he owns the patent and I looked into marketing it on ebay - it never happened because the margins were so tight any profit was wiped out by the charges.
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    Look at Amazon Marketplace - the fees are much lower than Ebay.
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    generally over the years I've had good dealings with ebay but if you have a problem it can sometimes take a while to get a satifactory outcome

    I've got my macbook up there at the moment and hoping that I don't get the usual idiots bidding. I always put "will only post to uk address" as you do get some right moody nigerian bidders at times
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    I have set up and am running an Ebay shop for a friend of mine who is a photographer. It has been running now since July although not fully until September.

    During the last 7 months we have sold around £20,000 of stuff. I have also looked into drop-shippers and other sources of stuff.

    If you are thinking of selling some things - say hi tech stuff for example, just run a search. You will find a lot of stuff sold with very similar or identical descriptions. These are usually people who have bought into the dropping shipping services model. I am pretty unconvinced by these. All you do is list the items, you don't hold any stock. If an item sells, they deliver it directly to your customer. If you do go down this route you have to be incredibly selective about the kind of lines you want to sell.

    Take cameras for example. For the latest technology models there are the following:

    1. The people selling "grey" market goods which are being supplied from Hong Kong with guarantees which are not necessarily valid in the UK or to honour them the item has to go back to Hong Kong. These are 30% or more below UK or European sourced stock

    2. Then you UK importers who buy in the goods from Hong Kong but supply from the UK. These goods also do not have UK guarantees. These will be up 30% cheaper than UK/Europe sourced product

    3. Then you have those people who have bought at the wrong price and are clearing their items

    4. Then comes the pukka UK sellers.

    It is very hard to sell UK sourced Cameras on Ebay. You have to buy when they are on offer and box clever with package deals etc

    We also sell expensive Binoculars. These are also very hard to shift because of grey market imports. You have to lower your margins to the bone.

    Buying bankrupt stock is fine provided you know what you are doing.

    As for Ebay and Paypal fees. Well you pay less fees the more sales throughput. We are currently Top Rated and a Silver Level Power Seller. We get a 20% discount off the Ebay fees. We are have 350 plus items listed and we received charges of around £320 per month on sales of £6,000 a month. It depends though on whether you turnover sales quickly. Ebay charge differently depending on whether you sell at 99p with no reserve, your staring price is higher than 99p and if you sell it on a buy it now basis. Its quite hard to get a handle on it when you first start.

    Paypal costs are somewhere around 3 and 4% of sales value (inc delivery) but will reduce once your sales reach certain monthly levels.

    The next thing to think about is delivery charges. Depending on what you sell, it can be a good plan to use Royal Mail. The main problem with Royal Mail is that anything heavy or bulky costs money.

    We use Royal Mail, Hermes (home delivery 3-5 day courier) and DHL (24-48 hour courier). Hermes is good for light but bulky items and DHL is good for expensive/heavy items.

    The next thing to look at is whether you want the delivery "signed for". Frankly we have been stiffed a few times so we sent everything "signed for" but it costs. For some items like DVDs and CDs Ebay won't let you charge more than a specified amount for delivery. This is clearly to stop people ripping customers off on delivery prices.

    In summary, like all retail, you need to buy at the right price. Price sells. What helps sales is customers confidence. I think that many people assume that there is a lot of swag and moody gear out there being sold by potential rip off merchants. Even with Paypal protecting them, there is still the aggravation factor. Our sales have shifted incrementally as we have achieved excellent feedback and become an Ebay Top Seller. We get better visibility now because of that and people are ready to take the plunge.

    If you are interested in our Ebay shop here is the link. This has been built from scratch. I have had to learn a bit of html editing to enhance things. If I can do it, anyone can do it!

    Photography Ebay Shop
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    [quote][cite]Posted By: buckshee[/cite]generally over the years I've had good dealings with ebay but if you have a problem it can sometimes take a while to get a satifactory outcome

    I've got my macbook up there at the moment and hoping that I don't get the usual idiots bidding. I always put "will only post to uk address" as you do get some right moody nigerian bidders at times[/quote]

    [quote][cite]Posted By: buckshee[/cite]generally over the years I've had good dealings with ebay but if you have a problem it can sometimes take a while to get a satifactory outcome

    I've got my macbook up there at the moment and hoping that I don't get the usual idiots bidding. I always put "will only post to uk address" as you do get some right moody nigerian bidders at times[/quote]

    [quote][cite]Posted By: buckshee[/cite]generally over the years I've had good dealings with ebay but if you have a problem it can sometimes take a while to get a satifactory outcome

    I've got my macbook up there at the moment and hoping that I don't get the usual idiots bidding. I always put "will only post to uk address" as you do get some right moody nigerian bidders at times[/quote]

    [quote][cite]Posted By: buckshee[/cite]generally over the years I've had good dealings with ebay but if you have a problem it can sometimes take a while to get a satifactory outcome

    I've got my macbook up there at the moment and hoping that I don't get the usual idiots bidding. I always put "will only post to uk address" as you do get some right moody nigerian bidders at times[/quote]
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    If only I knew someone selling a MacBook.......
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    obviously Bigmac is a bit clueless at how to post

    strange seeing as he looks like one of those shady ebayers from the far east
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    [quote][cite]Posted By: Dave2l[/cite]Im hoping to make a profit from buying and selling on ebay and hopefully specialise in something sell. I know its hard to find a decent wholesaler and one you can trust.

    Just wondering if anyone has done this before to make a profitable business, has any advice or knows good people to buy from.

    You could also look into selling on amazon or e-bid.
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    A friend makes a decentish living out of selling games consoles and games. He told me that you simply have to know your market - he scours local newspapers, car boot sales and even ebay etc, he buys them as cheap as he can and then sells them on having first set them to default/shop mode. When selling games he doesn't bother unless he gets them for free (or as good as) but does buy and sell the rarer games. I'm pretty clueless about nintendo/xbox so I wouldn't know a rare console from a mainstream one or what the games that sell are - essentially it comes down to knowing your market and turn over, if you sell 10/20 consoles a month at a profit of say £40-50 then it adds up to something worthwhile. How many people have the time to do all that?
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    [cite]Posted By: BlackForestReds[/cite]A friend makes a decentish living out of selling games consoles and games. He told me that you simply have to know your market - he scours local newspapers, car boot sales and even ebay etc, he buys them as cheap as he can and then sells them on having first set them to default/shop mode. When selling games he doesn't bother unless he gets them for free (or as good as) but does buy and sell the rarer games. I'm pretty clueless about nintendo/xbox so I wouldn't know a rare console from a mainstream one or what the games that sell are - essentially it comes down to knowing your market and turn over, if you sell 10/20 consoles a month at a profit of say £40-50 then it adds up to something worthwhile. How many people have the time to do all that?

    Thats retail for you. You have to know your market and buy as cheaply as you can. Its extremely easy to f*ck up by buying the wrong stuff at the wrong time at the wrong price.

    Any fool can take money, the smart ones make money.

    My advice would be don't put all your eggs in one basket. Try a few things out. If you can build slowly and steadily from very little, you can adjust things as you go. My other advice is, if you set your prices, set them around a model of making enough money on 50% of what you sell to make a profit on 100% of what you've bought. You can clear out the balance at cost. Don't sit on stuff that isn't moving, sell it or clear it, and re-invest in something else.
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    Thanks, alot of helpful answers.
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    edited March 2011
    My brother and his friend often go to charity shops/boot sales, find stuff they think is worth selling and stick it on ebay. Last year, they saw a ps1 game at a boot sale, got it for 50p and sold it for £32.... Obviously they got lucky, but they new the game was rare, and thus was likely to fetch a few quid.

    Like others have mentioned, its about having the right stock at the right time. It might be worthwhile finding out what the latest craze is (it was yo' yos and other such things when i was a kid) and see if you can bulk buy and then sell them online...i can imagine parents would go online to get stuff like this these days, rather than hunting in the shops!

    Obviously this would just be a start and you would have to grow and sell more expensive items etc
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    My mum and my aunt do something like this. They go out to bootfairs and they buy most ladies and kids clothes, always with tags still in them and flog them on there.

    Paid for there holidays to Sri Lanka this year and a Caribbean cruise last year. Takes allot of time and effort though.
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    edited March 2011
    you might want to get a copy of this http://www.amazon.co.uk/Starting-Business-Dummies-Marsha-Collier/dp/0764515470 , make sure it's the UK edition and not the US one though, as theres a few different ones out there
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    I suppose the more you put in the more you get out of it along with carefull thinking and common sense. The good thing to know is that it can be done and it can make money. Also probably quite enjoyable too if you like the business side of things I look forward to doing it.
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    Would agree with advice about knowing your market - car boot sales are a good place to pick up items but you need to know what the prices are for the sort of items you might want to sell and know that the boot sale will be full of people looking for the same as you. My son is into Pokemon and bought an albulm of cards for £3 - on closer inspection many of the cards in the album are worth £10 plus each some £30, although he wouldn't sell any of them - you see a lot of ebay dealers scouting around for things like Pokemon cards - they know their subject and get in there quick - they also have tricks like having their own stall which they set up quickly so they can walk around the other stalls before the boot sale opens. Of course they are looking for the attic clearers rather than the regular boot sale sellers as this is were the bargains are.
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    The fees both eBay and paypal charge are a joke . Just sold my MacBook for £360 but by the time the fees for eBay and paypal come off I won't see much over £300.
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    I use Ebay for my transactions with coins. Ebay charge 7% and when i'm paid by Paypal, it's a further 3.5%, but you can refuse payment by Paypal. This is
    what it costs in France, a colleague in Italy tells me the total for both is in excess of 17%. Find out how much it costs in the UK and good luck.
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    Paypal charges can be avoided by not banking the money and using it to spend online.
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    edited March 2011
    I wonder if these people are surprised when their stuff doesn't sell:

    http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/CHARLTON-ATHLETIC-GLASGOW-RANGERS-TWIN-CREST-BADGE-/130495056028?pt=UK_SportsMemorabilia_Football_Memorabilia_ET&hash=item1e621c889c#ht_500wt_1156

    http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/CHARLTON-ATHLETIC-THE-VALLIANTS-F-C-LEATHER-WALLET-/350447773593?pt=UK_SportsMemorabilia_Football_Memorabilia_ET&hash=item519850a799#ht_759wt_907

    http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/CHARLTON-ATHLETIC-CREWE-FANS-THEMED-SHIELD-T-SHIRT-2-/160506054957?pt=Men_s_Clothes&var=&hash=item6b1aeb7584#ht_1460wt_907

    http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/FOOTBALL-CLUB-CHARLTON-ATHLETIC-FC-BADGE-/200587480738?pt=UK_Collectables_Badges_Patches_MJ&hash=item2eb3f20ea2#ht_513wt_1141
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    A couple of years ago I got into EBay quite heavily, made thousands...

    The secret is finding something people want, sell it, and still be able to sell it all again the next day with no extra cost other than raw production costs...

    A lot of the time P&P more than covered my production costs...
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    I very much doubt you'll be able to sell the players, even on eBay?%~{>
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    [cite]Posted By: RedZed333[/cite]A couple of years ago I got into EBay quite heavily, made thousands...

    The secret is finding something people want, sell it, and still be able to sell it all again the next day with no extra cost other than raw production costs...

    A lot of the time P&P more than covered my production costs...

    A strategy for success in many retail businesses.

    What's the punchline for the old Jewish "I opened the box of herrings that you sold me and they stink" joke?

    "Oiii... these are 'for buying and selling' herrings ... not 'for eating' herrings".
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    Fifty quid anyone?
    http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/10-11-CHARLTON-AWAY-SHIRT-SS-McCORMACK-16-SMALL-/270721940020?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item3f0848fa34#ht_600wt_907
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    [cite]Posted By: Dave Rudd[/cite]"Oiii... these are 'for buying and selling' herrings ... not 'for eating' herrings".

    I used to buy hardware and housewares from a bloke who's favourite saying was

    1. "Those are flying machines" - meaning they will real sell well and fast
    2. "Those are for buying and selling, not for using" - meaning they were not good quality
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    This is very good for very cheap I think too.

    http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=120699903607&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT
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