Why are Scottish Managers so successful?
We may, come next season, have no less than seven Scottish Managers in the Premier League (Ferguson, Coyle, Lambert, Kean, Dalglish, Moyles & McLeish) and yet there isn't a single current Scottish player that I can think of who would get into the England National Team.
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As for Scottish managers, I think football is more popular up there than down in in percentage terms, look at the crowd they had at Hampden and how they outnumbered us at Wembley. The Scots are also a highly intelligent race, they've invented many great things like the steam engine, telephone, the bicycle, television etc. Perhaps this is transferred in to management?
'The Scots are also a highly intelligent race, they've invented many great things like the steam engine, telephone, the bicycle, television etc. Perhaps this is transferred in to management?'
Don't forget IRN BRU
"We may, come next season, have no less than seven Scottish Managers in the Premier League (Ferguson, Coyle, Lambert, Kean, Dalglish, Moyles & McLeish)"
I thought he was crap as a DJ, i'm not sure what he'll offer as a Football Manager!!!!
What are mcgregors problems ?? Apart from only having 6 league games a season where he might be busy or however many times he plays the other side in scotland
Not only now, but in the past too.
Graham, Stein, Shankly, Busby, McNeil.......and err Strachan! Ok the exception that proves the rule.
Also most of the real succesful ones come from the Glasgow area.
There are a couple of Scots players who would get near the England side.
A fully fit Craig Gordon could challenge Hart whilst Charlie Adam imho would be in the squad at least same with Alan Hutton.
Hard to expain why managers have been so successful though.
It's not hard to explain, it's because they're more interested in football than us. Glasgow has 3 big stadiums and the attendances at Hampden back in the day made Wembley look like a sports day. They also take more fans away than us.
Calling McGregor the best goalkeeper in Britain is a big statement.
Let's face facts, if he was that good then he would not be playing in the SPL he would be in the Premier League earning some serious dough.
If he gets a move in the summer to a decent Premier League club and plays regularly in a higher standard of football then you'll be able to make a much better judgement on how good he is.
Keeping out Drogba, Rooney, Van Persie et al is a bit different to keeping out Akpo Sodje and Giorgios Samaras!
You can't comment on a player you don't watch.
djimi traore won a champions league medal ......
mcgregor looks half decent but keeping out gordon isn't anything to write home about he hasn't been first choice for part of this season at sunderland(he's been on the bench their last 8 games)
in all honesty to be considered a top keeper you have to play at the highest level regularly and that will only happen if he moves away from that two team league
When was the EPL last won by someone outside Chelsea/Man U? And the Spanish league is probably more 2 team that any other, but it's definitely good.
I think with the McGregor/Gordon discussion you have to look at the competition. I'd have thought that they would both be above Green or James (the England 1st and 2nd choice in the world cup) and are more experienced than Hart or Foster who are probably at a similar level.
Surely the fact that McGregor has excelled at club level (where he has little to do, which in itself is very difficult for a goal keeper when you’re only called on two or three times a game) and international level (where he clearly has more to do as Scotland are not as strong as their opponents relative to their opposition).
It is an interesting comparison between Gordon and McGregor. A few seasons ago, before all his injuries, Gordon was fantastic. At that time he was certainly better than McGregor. But since then injuries have consistently eroded his ability and McGregor seems to have sorted himself out attitude wise which has improved his game immensely. I think McGregor will move to England at some point, but but no means does he “have” to do it to prove his ability.
BTW, calling the SPL a two team league (whilst correct) is pretty ignorant. There are half the teams in the SPL, but would you say the Prem is more than twice as competitive ? Who in Spain has a chance of winning the league other than Madrid and Barca ? Have you seen the Italian League table ?
@ Friend or Defoe
Thanks for the civilised response, its about what I expected from you.
If McGregor is so good then why is he playing Jockball for peanuts rather than playing with the big boys in England for real money? Er, could it be because he is not actually good enough for proper football?
We all know you're a Rangers fan but please try and keep it in proper perspective, the only people playing Jockball are those who aren't good enough to play in England - otherwise they'd be down there earning real money and playing against world-class players every week rather than Caledonian Thistle or whatever the hell they're called.
By the way, just because he's played in the Champions League - nowhere near the business end of course - and UEFA Cup does not make him the best keeper in Britain, that's the most ridiculous statement I have ever seen, even from someone like you.
If he was that good he'd be down south - he's not, so draw your own conclusions from that and take your blue-tinged glasses off.
"We all know you're a Rangers fan but please try and keep it in proper perspective, the only people playing Jockball are those who aren't good enough to play in England"
Yes you're right, just like the commentators before the England V Germany game, none of the Germans would get in to the English team. I mean if Mesut Özil was any good he would be playing in the EPL (sic) and not for Werder Bremen who never get to the business end in the champions league and made the UEFA Cup final in 2009.
You really should watch him play before passing judgement, and make up your own mind instead of believing what the media tells you. There's talent outside of the premiership and England are hardly bless in the goalkeeper department. As for being biased, I think most people who have seen him this season will agree with me.
think some people's anti-Scottish football bias extends just as far if
not further than some people's liking or affinity for Scottish football.
Spot on.
scottish football is in general shit make no mistake about it
their national team is shit
our premiership is a lot better than theirs
and our national team is a lot better than ours
we have more players to chose from and richers clubs hence the above situations arise
the celtic v rangers game is something to behold and i'll always watch that game cos it's special because of the atmosphere and committment of both sides but as for the rest of the leagu and yes i have watched a few games albeit on telly it is junk
ta isaw
on a side note my barbers mate is the father of gary hooper and he has to be indoors on a saturday after the match by 10pm and when it's the old firm they're not allowed out !!
yeah i think he's hoping for another year up at celtic before a move to the prem
he's been in the u-21 squads (not sure if he's played)