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Capital Punishment.

CrayAddick
CrayAddick Posts: 3,913
edited August 2011 in Not Sports Related
Will this really get serious consideration?

Want to see this for Murders with obviously concrete evidence.

Lifers views please.
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  • better red than dead
    better red than dead Posts: 491
    No. Never take what you can't give back.  There have been too many instances of wrongful convictions, with alleged "concrete proof",  for this ever to be a serious suggestion.
  • jimmymelrose
    jimmymelrose Posts: 9,762
    No. Never take what you can't give back.  There have been too many instances of wrongful convictions, with alleged "concrete proof",  for this ever to be a serious suggestion.
    Agree.

    Bad topic for discussion IMO
  • CrayAddick
    CrayAddick Posts: 3,913
    100% DNA proof?

  • Kap10
    Kap10 Posts: 15,592
    Only if the convicted is called Pardew, otherwise no.
  • gilbertfilbert
    gilbertfilbert Posts: 2,282
    Definitely not.  
  • NathanPrior
    NathanPrior Posts: 3,577
    Bring it back!
  • Robert
    Robert Posts: 801
    I dont think it sud be used...however i believe murderers should get life inprisonment....abd by that i mean they are NEVER released, rather than walking free ten years later
  • CrayAddick
    CrayAddick Posts: 3,913
    Should prison not be a lot tougher?
  • Leroy Ambrose
    Leroy Ambrose Posts: 14,448
    No
  • Robert
    Robert Posts: 801
    And yes prison should be tougher...however without mental stimulation that tvs and computers provide, they would go crazy and probably come out more dangerous than when they came in.

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  • CrayAddick
    CrayAddick Posts: 3,913
    No



    And you wonder why we have one of the highest rate of reoffenders in Europe.
  • Mortimerwasgod
    Mortimerwasgod Posts: 551
    Im in favour. If it was a member of my family who'd been killed i wud want it, so i have to keep that view throughout.
  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,074
    Im in favour. If it was a member of my family who'd been killed i wud want it, so i have to keep that view throughout.



    Sorry but you've just highlighted the reason it shouldn't be brought in , the law is "reason without passion" saying you'd change the law based on your own personal circumstances, no matter how tragic, deprives consistency. Only barbarians take lives, we haven't reached that stage as a country and almost every other "developed" nation recognises it's a pretty inefficient way of dealing with crime.
  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 32,639
    I'm a yes man. Or make life mean life and make it tougher inside too. 
  • Friend Or Defoe
    Friend Or Defoe Posts: 18,122
    No



    And you wonder why we have one of the highest rate of reoffenders in Europe.
    Prison isn't a deterrent. Some people are prepared to lose their lives in order to commit their crime. A big no for me. There are other things we should be looking at.
  • Mortimerwasgod
    Mortimerwasgod Posts: 551
    Point taken about the law. I was trying to justify my opinion overall by putting a personal slant on it. Im an eye for an eye bloke, and not with any religious reason attached to it.
  • Cordoban Addick
    Cordoban Addick Posts: 5,448
    Anybody know the murder rates for countries that have the death penalties? I suppose they will be really low?
  • Leroy Ambrose
    Leroy Ambrose Posts: 14,448
    No



    And you wonder why we have one of the highest rate of reoffenders in Europe.
    What are you on about?
  • Oakster
    Oakster Posts: 6,812
    edited August 2011

  • Chunes
    Chunes Posts: 17,404
    Joke question. From joke papers. From joke minds. Obviously no.

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  • Curb_It
    Curb_It Posts: 21,238
    Got to be one of the oddest threads on here. And even stranger is that this topic wasn't started by goonerhater.

    Peace and love. Night.
  • tangoflash
    tangoflash Posts: 10,787
    100% DNA proof?

    Think you'll find that DNA proof can be manipulated and planted easier than people think.

    It's a definate no from me.
  • Stig
    Stig Posts: 29,088
    No.
  • kimbo
    kimbo Posts: 2,997
    edited August 2011
    Absolutely no, for anyone interested in campaigning against the death penalty look at the charity reprieve at www.reprieve.org.uk

  • Algarveaddick
    Algarveaddick Posts: 21,179
    Im in favour. If it was a member of my family who'd been killed i wud want it, so i have to keep that view throughout.




    Of course the other side of the coin is what if one of your family was the innocent person executed in error by the state? 

    So, as much as at times, in anger I may say "they should hang that b*****d", the rational, logical brain we have been gifted [except GH of course ;-)] says it is wrong when looked at in the cold light of day.   

  • Richard J
    Richard J Posts: 8,034

     

    No

    Gandhi once said 'an eye for an eye makes the whole world blind'.

  • PaulCAFC
    PaulCAFC Posts: 857
    edited August 2011
    If prison sentences reflected the crime, we would not need this debate - we too often see 4 years for rape and suchlike, which usually means only half of that term. Offenders are too often out early to re-offend. Category 1 offences should mean 'lifelong' imprisonment opposed to 'life', which means something totally different. Prisons should not be like hotels, but that's another debate! 4.0 today!
  • Clem_Snide
    Clem_Snide Posts: 11,747
    If prison sentences reflected the crime, we would not need this debate - we too often see 4 years for rape and suchlike, which usually means only half of that term. Offenders are too often out early to re-offend. Category 1 offences should mean 'lifelong' imprisonment opposed to 'life', which means something totally different. Prisons should not be like hotels, but that's another debate! 4.0 today!

    Not sure that extreme prison sentences are the answer either. Only have to look at the good old US of A to see that metaphorically throwing the key away is no deterrent.
  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru Posts: 50,658
    Absolutely no on a number of levels.

    1, as said above, never take what you can't give back - life

    2, true life imprisonment is more of a punishment than the death penalty

  • Friend Or Defoe
    Friend Or Defoe Posts: 18,122
    I don't think this is a sick thread, after the recent events there's probably a lot of people who want to bring it back. Keep the thread going so that they understand why we shouldn't bring it back!

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