I occassionally post on this forum and I am amazed to find they slated us for only bringing 400 to Halifax.
This was my reply.
"Pretty pathetic you criticizing us for bring 400 when you can't even beat our home attendence. Our last home game was 17,486 against Preston and Preston's away attendence was poor. You can't even beat us with Millwall and they must have filled in your away section. Funny how you decided to copy our idea of the wonderful 'Eagles Express' coaches from kent when you been slating us for years over it. Simon Jordan will be proud "
Just seems all a bit childish to me. If it's done well it can work, but all that just seems like a bunch of kids name calling. You need to be a bit more subtle about it to really get them all on the hook.
Just seems all a bit childish to me. If it's done well it can work, but all that just seems like a bunch of kids name calling. You need to be a bit more subtle about it to really get them all on the hook.
I just find it pathetic they slate us for attendences when clearly our attendence this season has been larger than Palace's. Also, they have been slating us for ages picking up fans from Kent when they are now doing the same and yet they now think it is a good idea when they introduced it.
I don't find it childish, it is just banter and pride when it comes to us.
"Dont really think we would take many more to be honest either if we could match charltons home criwds that would be a start its seems to me that their fans are a bit more loyal on the whole crowds held up very well even when they were struggling in league one as thousands of our fans dissapeared!"
Honest reply from them. Shame none of them can admit that the coaches are exactly the same.
I'd like to think that we'll come close to that attendance tonight even though we're playing a division below, against a team from yorkshire, on a monday night, live on sky.
As for the palace fan who tried to justify our superior attendances by stating that we give away loads of freebies to schools etc, I think you'll find there's not alot of clubs that don't do this. If palace don't, maybe there's just one of the many reasons why their support is shit as they're not looking forward towards building up a future fanbase.
They do, they had a massive freebie day about a month ago, remember seeing it on the FL show! Think they got a crowd of around 16,000 for it. Think it was against Bristol City!
By all accounts, our crowd for tonight has already passed their saturday crowd!
Swings and roundabouts, if we're being honest they've got a better away support than we do. Think the fact their home ground is a dump affects them massively.
Charlton played Huddersfield - Distance of 214 miles
Palace played on a saturday afternoon
Charlton played on a Monday night
The only way to see the Palace match was to attend it
To watch Charlton you could sit in the comfort of your living room or the local bar.
Palace play in the Championship
Charlton play in League 1
After all these facts in favour of the stripey one's, we still attract a crowd of over 3000 more than them. And before they start bleating on about us giving tickets to schools, I can't imagine that was the case tonight as the little angels have to be up in the morning.
Swings and roundabouts, if we're being honest they've got a better away support than we do. Think the fact their home ground is a dump affects them massively.
Hows that "swings and roundabouts"?
Even in a higher division they haven't got "better aways support than we do" - even though we know ours is shite.
We took 1.4k there in 2004, although that said the 1.4 was much better than the 2 times since when we took almost double that.
A lot of theirs don't bother with their home games, prefer to go on the road. Which is why they tend to sell out their allocation a fair few times a season, e.g. Somewhere like Watford. We tend to sell out if it's a new ground, even when we were in the Championship we still struggled to shift the full amount at places like QPR if we had played them regularly.
Nothing to be ashamed about as every club is different, hence the swings and roundabouts comment. Every club has different strengths and weaknesses. Would say one of our stronger points as a club is the initiatives Cafc takes to boost home attendances and get walk up support, yet we don't travel as well as we should.
Would say CPFC definately are years behind with terms of PR with the local fanbase, but tend to travel especially to the local matches better than we have in recent times. That said I'd imagine the form this year could get a lot of former away travellers interested again as Brentford showed.
There's not much difference in our away support. Neither take great numbers outside of London. We've always taken loads to Watford but the prices QPR charged it's no surprised that so many gave it a miss.
15k for a local derby is shocking though, especially when they're having such a great season. millwall will have more at the new den.
Agreed we do take a reasonable number to Watford but can't remember us selling out at places like that a lot of times. Personally it's one of my favourite trips but I do remember us taking 1.2 or so in the Championship.
Qpr do charge high prices yet CPFC do have the ability to sell out allocations like that regardless of the price. That said I saw the ultras are boycotting Whufc as it's £45 or so a ticket!
15k is shocking, as well as 11k for Bristol a couple of weeks back. But I think they as a club have shot themselves in a foot massively with their home match policies.
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To be fair it was a school night and there was double geography first thing the next day.
This was my reply.
"Pretty pathetic you criticizing us for bring 400 when you can't even
beat our home attendence. Our last home game was 17,486 against Preston
and Preston's away attendence was poor. You can't even beat us with
Millwall and they must have filled in your away section.
Funny how you decided to copy our idea of the wonderful 'Eagles
Express' coaches from kent when you been slating us for years over it.
Simon Jordan will be proud "
http://www.holmesdale.net/page.php?id=106&tid=116666
I don't find it childish, it is just banter and pride when it comes to us.
could match charltons home criwds that would be a start its seems to me
that their fans are a bit more loyal on the whole crowds held up very
well even when they were struggling in league one as thousands of our
fans dissapeared!"
Honest reply from them. Shame none of them can admit that the coaches are exactly the same.
Really Oohaah, why have you never mentioned it before? ;-)
Palace's next away league game will show their travelling fans potential - a cold tuesday night in Barnsley on 6th December..
"Have just received my Barnsley ticket which cost £16,granted its not a "glamour "game.
The box office told me today that they have sold "4" yes "four" tickets."
Yet they still have a pop at our travelling support.
As for the palace fan who tried to justify our superior attendances by stating that we give away loads of freebies to schools etc, I think you'll find there's not alot of clubs that don't do this. If palace don't, maybe there's just one of the many reasons why their support is shit as they're not looking forward towards building up a future fanbase.
Palace played millwall- distance of 6 miles
Charlton played Huddersfield - Distance of 214 miles
Palace played on a saturday afternoon
Charlton played on a Monday night
The only way to see the Palace match was to attend it
To watch Charlton you could sit in the comfort of your living room or the local bar.
Palace play in the Championship
Charlton play in League 1
After all these facts in favour of the stripey one's, we still attract a crowd of over 3000 more than them. And before they start bleating on about us giving tickets to schools, I can't imagine that was the case tonight as the little angels have to be up in the morning.
Sometimes it's nice to have a little gloat. ;-)
A lot of theirs don't bother with their home games, prefer to go on the road. Which is why they tend to sell out their allocation a fair few times a season, e.g. Somewhere like Watford. We tend to sell out if it's a new ground, even when we were in the Championship we still struggled to shift the full amount at places like QPR if we had played them regularly.
Nothing to be ashamed about as every club is different, hence the swings and roundabouts comment. Every club has different strengths and weaknesses. Would say one of our stronger points as a club is the initiatives Cafc takes to boost home attendances and get walk up support, yet we don't travel as well as we should.
Would say CPFC definately are years behind with terms of PR with the local fanbase, but tend to travel especially to the local matches better than we have in recent times. That said I'd imagine the form this year could get a lot of former away travellers interested again as Brentford showed.
15k for a local derby is shocking though, especially when they're having such a great season. millwall will have more at the new den.
Qpr do charge high prices yet CPFC do have the ability to sell out allocations like that regardless of the price. That said I saw the ultras are boycotting Whufc as it's £45 or so a ticket!
15k is shocking, as well as 11k for Bristol a couple of weeks back. But I think they as a club have shot themselves in a foot massively with their home match policies.
Have a word with yourself.