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  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,973
    McBobbin said:

    Just mentioned having a telepathic relationship with Darren bent. I'd though to myself "I bet he doesn't mention Darren Bent" so fair play

    It only lasted for 3 months though! If Murphy had got an England call up at the time, maybe he wouldn't have thrown his toys out of the pram and stayed. With Murphy and Bent together the following season, we would have stood a much better chance of staying up.

  • lordromford
    lordromford Posts: 7,829
    McBobbin said:

    Just mentioned having a telepathic relationship with Darren bent. I'd though to myself "I bet he doesn't mention Darren Bent" so fair play

    Maybe he heard you thinking that.
  • Dave2l
    Dave2l Posts: 8,880
    I like Murphy as a pundit. Whatever you say about how he left Charlton, he was a very good creative midfielder and curbs had him on his A game for a while.
  • McBobbin
    McBobbin Posts: 12,057

    McBobbin said:

    Just mentioned having a telepathic relationship with Darren bent. I'd though to myself "I bet he doesn't mention Darren Bent" so fair play

    Maybe he heard you thinking that.
    Very, very good
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,735
    edited March 2016
    Dave2l said:

    I like Murphy as a pundit. Whatever you say about how he left Charlton, he was a very good creative midfielder and curbs had him on his A game for a while.

    And then Murphy went and re-ruined it. i.e. Wasnt getting a game @ Liverpool (top side) so leaves a joins a side where he can use his potential (Charlton), he then ruins its by going back to Spurs (another "top" side) before learning his lesson again and joins Fulham

    Its like Scott Sinclair... Wasnt getting a game @ Chelsea so goes on a ton of pointless loans before settling at Swansea City, he then goes and ruins his career again by joining Man City and ending up right back at the beginning again!!
  • cafcfan1990
    cafcfan1990 Posts: 12,811
    edited March 2016

    Dave2l said:

    I like Murphy as a pundit. Whatever you say about how he left Charlton, he was a very good creative midfielder and curbs had him on his A game for a while.

    And then Murphy went and re-ruined it. i.e. Wasnt getting a game @ Liverpool (top side) so leaves a joins a side where he can use his potential (Charlton), he then ruins its by going back to Spurs (another "top" side) before learning his lesson again and joins Fulham

    Its like Scott Sinclair... Wasnt getting a game @ Chelsea so goes on a ton of pointless loans before settling at Swansea City, he then goes and ruins his career again by joining Man City and ending up right back at the beginning again!!
    I completely agree about Scott Sinclair, but not necessarily about Murphy. The way he was playing for us, with talk of an England recall etc, I think you could forgive him for thinking a move to Spurs was a good move.
    Sinclairs a bit different as City and Chelsea are right at the top, Spurs were still a little bit behind Liverpool back then, so I actually think on paper it was a good move for Murphy and he probably felt he could go in and be a regular. Almost identical to Sigurdsson, who left Swansea for Spurs and is now back at Swansea, don't think you can blame him for trying the bigger team, and think Bony will follow suit.
  • Granted for Danny Murphy, his best career decision was moving to Fulham.

    Was probably the best team he played for and finally showed the potential on a consistent basis
  • AFKABartram
    AFKABartram Posts: 57,887
    I'm actually surprised he has gone down the media route. From what I've heard, there was a big expectation that he would move into management / coaching, and be a success at it.
  • I'm actually surprised he has gone down the media route. From what I've heard, there was a big expectation that he would move into management / coaching, and be a success at it.

    More film premieres in the media!
  • Lincsaddick
    Lincsaddick Posts: 32,385
    edited March 2016

    I'm actually surprised he has gone down the media route. From what I've heard, there was a big expectation that he would move into management / coaching, and be a success at it.

    a bit like the supposed life of a prime minister/senior politician .. 'all such careers end in failure' .. whereas a 'pundit' can keep on 'punding' a mixture of good sense and/or tosh until the day he/she kicks the bucket

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  • I'm actually surprised he has gone down the media route. From what I've heard, there was a big expectation that he would move into management / coaching, and be a success at it.

    a bit like the supposed life of a prime minister/senior politician .. 'all such careers end in failure' .. whereas a 'pundit' can keep on 'punding' a mixture of good sense and/or tosh until the day he/she kicks the bucket
    Or says something racist and isn't allowed on anymore.
  • I'm actually surprised he has gone down the media route. From what I've heard, there was a big expectation that he would move into management / coaching, and be a success at it.

    I guess you could say he's taken the pundit job whilst he's waiting for a Managerial position to come along.

    Its a risk because if he takes a Managers job and fails... He'll instantly receive the same stick that Gary Neville is currently getting.
  • kings hill addick
    kings hill addick Posts: 5,781
    edited March 2016

    I'm actually surprised he has gone down the media route. From what I've heard, there was a big expectation that he would move into management / coaching, and be a success at it.

    a bit like the supposed life of a prime minister/senior politician .. 'all such careers end in failure' .. whereas a 'pundit' can keep on 'punding' a mixture of good sense and/or tosh until the day he/she kicks the bucket
    I know you were being a little tongue in cheek but if you look at Alan Hansen he was on MoTD for years, earned a lot of money and retired when he'd had enough.

    I know there is serious money in being a manager but it does require exceptional success to both stay in a job long term and to earn as much as you can earn on the TV - as you don't earn if you're out of work, and I suspect that the regular MoTD presenters earn much more than the managers out of the Premier League.

    I suspect there is less likelihood of abuse in the street for a MoTD presenter as well.
  • cafctom
    cafctom Posts: 11,373
    He and Bent worked so well together whilst they were here. Danny Murphy is exceptional in his form when he got properly going at Charlton.
  • I'm not keen on Murphy, but it's hard to deny the quality he brought to the team whilst he was with us.
    He is exactly what we don't now have in the team - the player who provides the 'out' ball for the rest of the team, because he is totally comfortable in possession, plus intelligent and creative in his use of the ball.
  • kentaddick
    kentaddick Posts: 18,729

    McBobbin said:

    Just mentioned having a telepathic relationship with Darren bent. I'd though to myself "I bet he doesn't mention Darren Bent" so fair play

    It only lasted for 3 months though! If Murphy had got an England call up at the time, maybe he wouldn't have thrown his toys out of the pram and stayed. With Murphy and Bent together the following season, we would have stood a much better chance of staying up.

    Imagine a team with Andy Reid and Danny Murphy in it. Might have actually been able to score our way out of trouble
  • randy andy
    randy andy Posts: 5,457
    The problem was when we were playing well Murphy was outstanding. When we started to struggle he completely went missing. Curbs somehow got the blame ("Can't handle the big players"), but you need your captain and highest paid player to step up when the going gets tough and Murphy singularly failed to do his job.
  • Lincsaddick
    Lincsaddick Posts: 32,385

    I'm actually surprised he has gone down the media route. From what I've heard, there was a big expectation that he would move into management / coaching, and be a success at it.

    a bit like the supposed life of a prime minister/senior politician .. 'all such careers end in failure' .. whereas a 'pundit' can keep on 'punding' a mixture of good sense and/or tosh until the day he/she kicks the bucket
    I know you were being a little tongue in cheek but if you look at Alan Hansen he was on MoTD for years, earned a lot of money and retired when he'd had enough.

    I know there is serious money in being a manager but it does require exceptional success to both stay in a job long term and to earn as much as you can earn on the TV - as you don't earn if you're out of work, and I suspect that the regular MoTH presenters earn much more than the managers out of the Premier League.

    I suspect there is less likelihood of abuse in the street for a MoTD presenter as well.
    exactly
  • thewolfboy
    thewolfboy Posts: 2,931
    IMO Kish did a lot of his leg work/tackling.
  • Murphy wasn't looking for a move but found out basically that curbishley was trying to sell him behind his back to bring in two players one being bowyer and another, so was prepared to let murphy go, to bring in two players.

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  • AshBurton
    AshBurton Posts: 1,142
    Wow, it's a Danny Murphy love-in on Charlton Life. Never thought I'd see the day, speaks volumes about our current mess. I'm sure we'd all like to own a time machine at this particular moment in our history.
  • BrentfordAddick
    BrentfordAddick Posts: 1,462
    edited March 2016
    Hansen still on the after-dinner circuit, yours for between 10 and 25k according to https://www.jla.co.uk/search-results/conference-speakers?c=15#.VvCBzuKLQoA
  • Riviera
    Riviera Posts: 8,167

    Hansen still on the after-dinner circuit, yours for between 10 and 25k according to https://www.jla.co.uk/search-results/conference-speakers?c=15#.VvCBzuKLQoA

    So Adrian Chiles puts himself in the same bracket as Sir Ian Botham? The mans arrogance knows no bounds.
  • mascot88
    mascot88 Posts: 9,651
    I wouldn't buy an alcohol from a huge Off License here in Australia called "Danny Murphy's" because of his transfer deadline day shenanigans... completely irrational obviously...
  • wmcf123
    wmcf123 Posts: 5,836
    Riviera said:

    Hansen still on the after-dinner circuit, yours for between 10 and 25k according to https://www.jla.co.uk/search-results/conference-speakers?c=15#.VvCBzuKLQoA

    So Adrian Chiles puts himself in the same bracket as Sir Ian Botham? The mans arrogance knows no bounds.
    Botham is massively admirable for his charity work but not an engaging speaker or commentator . He just turns up and wings both
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,973

    IMO Kish did a lot of his leg work/tackling.

    Um, isn't that how teams operate. If you have a creative player, you build a system that exploits that ability.

    Not the same level perhaps, but Mahrez has a similar role for Leicester, let him create the goal opportunities, and let Kante/Drinkwater Smertin/Kish do the defensive duties
  • IMO Kish did a lot of his leg work/tackling.

    Um, isn't that how teams operate. If you have a creative player, you build a system that exploits that ability.

    Not the same level perhaps, but Mahrez has a similar role for Leicester, let him create the goal opportunities, and let Kante/Drinkwater Smertin/Kish do the defensive duties
    Has sort of been the issue with us... Drinkwater gets up and down the pitch in the centre of Midfield helping out Mahrez and Albrighton, with Kante at the back it means that there is constant protection of the Defence.

    With Kashi and Diarra out injured its been left to Cousins to pretty much do the job of both Drinkwater and Kante this season.
  • mascot88 said:

    I wouldn't buy an alcohol from a huge Off License here in Australia called "Danny Murphy's" because of his transfer deadline day shenanigans... completely irrational obviously...

    I was very angry at him for a long time but, rather like Parker, I'm 'proud' that these players once played for us - irrespective as to the circumstances that they left in. I don't like Murphy and wouldn't go as far as to wish him well, but he does an ok job on MoTD an, in reality, it might be a very long time (quite possibly not in my lifetime) before a former Charlton player is on this kind of tv show.

    Let's remember that, unlike Joe Gomez and Lee Bowyer, Danny Murphy played for us at the peak of his career. I'm glad to be able to point out to my son that he (that chap on the tele talking about the top teams) used to play for us.
  • MrOneLung
    MrOneLung Posts: 26,905
    Liked him as a player.
    Disappointed when he left
    Like him as a pundit.


    Surely we should save our vitriol for proper Judases like a 16 year old schoolboy who never played a minute for us and joined West Ham as a kid.
  • IMO Kish did a lot of his leg work/tackling.

    Um, isn't that how teams operate. If you have a creative player, you build a system that exploits that ability.

    Not the same level perhaps, but Mahrez has a similar role for Leicester, let him create the goal opportunities, and let Kante/Drinkwater Smertin/Kish do the defensive duties
    Indeed. Parker and Kinsella before him did all of Jensen's tackling too. It's system that Curbs was used to managing.