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undersoil heating

NorwichRed
NorwichRed Posts: 90
edited February 2012 in General Charlton
Any "Ball Park " ideas how much it would cost...
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  • WSS
    WSS Posts: 25,117
    Somewhere between a fiver and £10,000,000.
  • Saga Lout
    Saga Lout Posts: 6,845
    Would depend on the size of your garden I suppose.
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,479
    The figure given many years ago was, IIRC, £750k.

    No idea what it would be now.
  • Even that struggles after -5 i believe
  • Kap10
    Kap10 Posts: 15,640
    Would depend on the size of your garden I suppose.
    And ball

  • Clem_Snide
    Clem_Snide Posts: 11,806
    Costs a fortune to run as well.

    Why dont we go with Acworths suggestion? Get a grant from the FA. Build a roof on the ground. Simple.
  • i would imagine the running costs are more of a concern than buying it.
  • Premiership yes but for a club running at considerable loss it's not an option or a priority.
  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 21,601
    A roof would be a better long term solution if our winters are to become harsher, but of course many people would then complain about artificial conditions etc. Also, I would guess the figure for building a roof would be much higher than undersoil heating

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  • I'm guessing it costs less to run than is lost in revenue from sponsorship, paying a number of staff twice and reduced crowds. Should certainly be mandatory at Prem level, but I suspect there's a business case for it at lower levels too.
  • iaitch
    iaitch Posts: 10,333
    You could spend the money and install it and then the game is cancelled because the surrounding roads are iced up and dangerous.
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,479
    edited February 2012
    The CEO said that the Southampton postponement last season cost the club £60,000. That was a boxing day game when a big crowd and lots of hospitality would have been expected. So maybe the top of the range.

    So using the limited figures we have £300k for undersoil heating = 5 cancelled games @ £60k each.

    Or if the figure is £750k then it's 12.5 postponed games.

    To build a roof you'd first need to build the East and Jimmy South Stands so that's £15m before you then consider the roof. Maybe not the first option for a League 1 club.
  • Clem_Snide
    Clem_Snide Posts: 11,806
    I wasn't being entirely serious.

    Neither are an option for a league one club.

    Possibly look at the cover Carlisle have bought.
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,479
    edited February 2012
    I know you weren't. I suspect that Ackworth was : - )


    The Carlisle option sounds good. It's like a big cardigan for the pitch so I like it : - )

    Any ideas on what it costs?
  • olster
    olster Posts: 1,405
    The CEO said that the Southampton postponement last season cost the club £60,000. That was a boxing day game when a big crowd and lots of hospitality would have been expected. So maybe the top of the range.

    So using the limited figures we have £300k for undersoil heating = 5 cancelled games @ £60k each.

    Or if the figure is £750k then it's 12.5 postponed games.

    To build a roof you'd first need to build the East and Jimmy South Stands so that's £15m before you then consider the roof. Maybe not the first option for a League 1 club.
    That's not including the running costs for undersoil heating of course...

    Also...i'm swear a few years ago on football manager our ground had it? not the most reliable of sources obviously, but usually pretty good. Have we ever had it...?

  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,479
    True, there would be running costs too.

    Pretty sure we've never had undersoil heating.
  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 21,601
    I'm sure the club have confirmed we have never had it, but we have had the heated dome thing instead. Football Manager probably put it in that we had it when we were in the Premiership
  • Stig
    Stig Posts: 29,292
    We used to have an inflatable bubble. I think now, it's just a plastic sheet.

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  • vff
    vff Posts: 6,914
    You could spend the money and install it and then the game is cancelled because the surrounding roads are iced up and dangerous.
    This.

    I think other factors came in as well.

    I think that the police were happy enough for a postponement because of the Millwall vs WHU game.

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    Did we flog it off when we were skint ?
  • Bexley Dan
    Bexley Dan Posts: 3,658
    My dad leant the club the money for some pitch covers when the club were skint and first moved back to the valley - don't think that was much more than a glorified tarpaulin - it's probably what we use now. I'm sure our new owners will address the situation even if frost isn't generally a problem where they are from.
  • Clem_Snide
    Clem_Snide Posts: 11,806
    There is a case study online lookng at the financial justification of a geo fleece cover (what Carlisle have). The argument says that saving one Saturday match (19-34k) revenue for Carlisle, paid for the cover.

    We usually have games called off because of problems at the South end of the ground. Surely it is worth the investment? Even if you only initially shell out for a big enough cover to sort the South end out?
  • Airman Brown
    Airman Brown Posts: 15,792
    I'm guessing it costs less to run than is lost in revenue from sponsorship, paying a number of staff twice and reduced crowds. Should certainly be mandatory at Prem level, but I suspect there's a business case for it at lower levels too.
    I wouldn't worry about the cost of paying the staff twice. They don't.

    We could have installed it for £250k in the PL days, according to the man responsible.
  • Make the pitch artificiial
  • Airman Brown
    Airman Brown Posts: 15,792
    You could spend the money and install it and then the game is cancelled because the surrounding roads are iced up and dangerous.
    This.

    I think other factors came in as well.

    I think that the police were happy enough for a postponement because of the Millwall vs WHU game.

    No police input yesterday. They aren't worried about CAFC v Rochdale. However it's true it's not just about the pitch in some situations.
  • Rothko
    Rothko Posts: 18,869
    As has been seen at Derby today, pitch fine, the roads round Pride Park, not good and game pulled.

  • PeakieRocket
    PeakieRocket Posts: 2,428
    edited February 2012
    We should try oversoil heating - much cheaper

    http://youtu.be/D7MN9hTTlTw