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  • Now see if the SPL start a SPL 2 to get around this.

    What a mess.
    Yep, the SFA/SPL won't give up the income they derive from Rangers without a fight. It's a ridiculous situation, Rangers fans, Scottish football fans and roughly 40 out of 42 clubs have all said Rangers should start again in Division 3 - if a few men in suits at the SFA and SPL can override that overwhelming statement of desire then it's an absolute disgrace.

    If Rangers do start in D3 apaarently they'll take Stranraer's place and their fixtures will be http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/teams/stranraer/fixtures - incredible !
  • Now see if the SPL start a SPL 2 to get around this.

    What a mess.
    Yep, the SFA/SPL won't give up the income they derive from Rangers without a fight. It's a ridiculous situation, Rangers fans, Scottish football fans and roughly 40 out of 42 clubs have all said Rangers should start again in Division 3 - if a few men in suits at the SFA and SPL can override that overwhelming statement of desire then it's an absolute disgrace.

    If Rangers do start in D3 apaarently they'll take Stranraer's place and their fixtures will be http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/teams/stranraer/fixtures - incredible !
    At least Rangers will finally get to play a league game in England!
  • What's the big local derby now then. Scottish geography is not my strong suit.
  • edited July 2012
    What's the big local derby now then. Scottish geography is not my strong suit.
    Rangers vs. Queens Park (I think they play at Hampden).
  • the gypsies of Clyde and wonderfully shirted Queens Park. We will get Queens Park v Rangers games
  • What's the big local derby now then. Scottish geography is not my strong suit.
    Rangers vs. Queens Park (I think they play at Hampden).
    So that's Queens Park Rangers then ;0)

  • I wonder what the odds are for Rangers to go a whole season unbeaten in Scottish Division Three?
  • I wonder what the odds are for Rangers to go a whole season unbeaten in Scottish Division Three?
    You wouldn't get much value, the fourth tier of Scottish football is nowhere near the standard of League 2 in England, almost all of the clubs are semi pro. Out of 36 games I'd be surprised if Rangers won less than say 30/31, certainly can't imagine them losing. Just having the fitness levels of a professional should be more than enough, and that's before you consider how much more talented the players will still be able to attract are.
  • EUFA have announce that Rangers will not be permitted to use goal-line technology next season, as it won't work with goal posts made from jumpers.

  • Clyde didn't even want them in Div 3! Personally I am glad they are in div 3, if they put them into an SPL 2 then there is no point in having relegation and promotion, changing the entirety of a countries league structure simply to accommodate a single club should only be reserved for farcical and corrupt places, like Argentina for example ;)
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  • How much money will the Div 2 & 3 clubs actually make out of this? Can't see that their ground capacities can be that big and will they not get anything from the gate receipts at Ibrox anyway?
  • How much money will the Div 2 & 3 clubs actually make out of this? Can't see that their ground capacities can be that big and will they not get anything from the gate receipts at Ibrox anyway?
    Queen's Park have a large capacity.

  • How much money will the Div 2 & 3 clubs actually make out of this? Can't see that their ground capacities can be that big and will they not get anything from the gate receipts at Ibrox anyway?
    Varies a bit:
    Queens Park 53,000
    Annan 2,000




  • I wonder what the odds are for Rangers to go a whole season unbeaten in Scottish Division Three?
    You wouldn't get much value, the fourth tier of Scottish football is nowhere near the standard of League 2 in England, almost all of the clubs are semi pro. Out of 36 games I'd be surprised if Rangers won less than say 30/31, certainly can't imagine them losing. Just having the fitness levels of a professional should be more than enough, and that's before you consider how much more talented the players will still be able to attract are.
    I guess that depends on the quality of the Rangers squad.

    I would assume that even with the many players leaving there would still be enough quality to win the league easily but who and how many players do they have now? Is it clear if they can buy players or what sort of budget they will have?
  • How much money will the Div 2 & 3 clubs actually make out of this? Can't see that their ground capacities can be that big and will they not get anything from the gate receipts at Ibrox anyway?
    Queen's Park have a large capacity.

    Do they actually play at Hampden? I thought they used a separate pitch.
  • edited July 2012
    I wonder what the odds are for Rangers to go a whole season unbeaten in Scottish Division Three?
    You wouldn't get much value, the fourth tier of Scottish football is nowhere near the standard of League 2 in England, almost all of the clubs are semi pro. Out of 36 games I'd be surprised if Rangers won less than say 30/31, certainly can't imagine them losing. Just having the fitness levels of a professional should be more than enough, and that's before you consider how much more talented the players will still be able to attract are.
    I guess that depends on the quality of the Rangers squad.

    I would assume that even with the many players leaving there would still be enough quality to win the league easily but who and how many players do they have now? Is it clear if they can buy players or what sort of budget they will have?
    They have a few guys left over from last season, the main ones being Neil Alexander (probably the 3rd best 'keeper in Scotland) Dorin Goian (Romania's first choice centre back) and Lee McCulloch (who's offered to play for free) in addition to some promising youngsters. Financially they should actually be better off as they'll still have huge gate receipts from a supporter base that will continue to show up. I'd imagine they'll have the second highest attendances in Scotland with a relatively tiny wage bill and no debt. Plus there may be income from the sale of players depending on how that mess plays out.

    For me the important thing is that the excess income is safeguarded to be re-invested when the club return to the SPL so they can be competitive again but I'm not so confident about that.
  • No, Queen's Park still play there.

    A lot of people make the mistake of thinking that it is the Scottish National stadium, built for the national team, with Queens Park just managing to blag their way in there.

    But it is owned by Queen's Park and it is primarily Queen's Park stadium before anything else, with Scotland national team just using it.
  • There won't be a SPL2, there just isn't the support for it from the SFL clubs.

    Doncaster should resign immediately, followed by Regan. Even if they don't they will both lose their jobs.
  • How much money will the Div 2 & 3 clubs actually make out of this? Can't see that their ground capacities can be that big and will they not get anything from the gate receipts at Ibrox anyway?
    Queen's Park have a large capacity.

    Do they actually play at Hampden? I thought they used a separate pitch.
    They played at the lesser Hampden when the ground was being developed and have moved back to their rightful home when it was finished.

    Average attendance in div 3 last season: 475!

  • Re Queen's Park my understanding is that they have the right to play at both Hampden and little Hampden (next door). They play league fixtures at little Hampden, but big cup fixtures at Hampden. A league tie against Rangers will be at Hampden itself.
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  • Re Queen's Park my understanding is that they have the right to play at both Hampden and little Hampden (next door). They play league fixtures at little Hampden, but big cup fixtures at Hampden. A league tie against Rangers will be at Hampden itself.
    Not always, they do play league games in the national stadium (the other stadiums called Lesser Hampden btw) and they need lots and lots of ball boys. I've never been to a game but apparently it's a surreal experience.
  • I went to a Glasgow cup game that drew a smaller crowd than their normal. Lots of ball boys running up the terraces to collect wayward strikes
  • I went to a Glasgow cup game that drew a smaller crowd than their normal. Lots of ball boys running up the terraces to collect wayward strikes
    Is the whole stadium open or just a small section ?
  • Only certain sections. The rangers game will be interesting
  • Rangers will fill the ground. I think Queens Park just open a couple of blocks in the main stand.
  • Queens Park are moving back to Lesser Hampden in 2013 to 2015 as Hampden is converted to an Athletic stadium
  • Queens Park are moving back to Lesser Hampden in 2013 to 2015 as Hampden is converted to an Athletic stadium
    Where did you got that from?! It won't take long to covert the ground for the commonwealth games.
  • They've got to raise the surface by 2 meters, and then lay the track.
  • oh and re reading the planning application, Lesser Hampden is going to be converted to the warm up track from autumn 2013
  • Queens Park are moving back to Lesser Hampden in 2013 to 2015 as Hampden is converted to an Athletic stadium
    Where did you got that from?! It won't take long to covert the ground for the commonwealth games.
    Invite millwall up for game, they're take the seats out.
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