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Did Danny Mills and John Robinson ruin Redknapps reputation?
masicat
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Interesting take on why Redknapp didn’t get England job.....from a West Ham fan
I was standing in the away end at the Valley, Charlton, and it was simply hosing it down as West Ham attempted to hold onto a 2-1 lead with a bit over a quarter-of-an-hour on the clock.
Despite an arthritic knee and what pace he ever possessed forever gone former Hammers hero Julian Dicks had been asked to play in an unfamiliar wingback role and was taking a chasing from Addicks right-back Danny Mills. Worse still Charlton boss Alan Curbishley, along with everybody else in the stadium, spotted Dicks’ distress and doubled up on him by bringing on substitute winger John Robinson.
When I say “everybody” I mean all bar the West Ham manager. Despite having the useful French wide player Marc Keller on the bench he failed to act – Mills banged one in and Andy Hunt and Neil Redfearn grabbed a late one each to give our South London cousins a 4-2 victory. I walked back to the car in Anchor and Hope Lane unable to believe any manager worth his name could have been so tactically inept. Soaked to the bone, angry and confused – that Saturday in October 1998 was the day I stopped believing in Harry Redknapp.
I was standing in the away end at the Valley, Charlton, and it was simply hosing it down as West Ham attempted to hold onto a 2-1 lead with a bit over a quarter-of-an-hour on the clock.
Despite an arthritic knee and what pace he ever possessed forever gone former Hammers hero Julian Dicks had been asked to play in an unfamiliar wingback role and was taking a chasing from Addicks right-back Danny Mills. Worse still Charlton boss Alan Curbishley, along with everybody else in the stadium, spotted Dicks’ distress and doubled up on him by bringing on substitute winger John Robinson.
When I say “everybody” I mean all bar the West Ham manager. Despite having the useful French wide player Marc Keller on the bench he failed to act – Mills banged one in and Andy Hunt and Neil Redfearn grabbed a late one each to give our South London cousins a 4-2 victory. I walked back to the car in Anchor and Hope Lane unable to believe any manager worth his name could have been so tactically inept. Soaked to the bone, angry and confused – that Saturday in October 1998 was the day I stopped believing in Harry Redknapp.
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Mrs. R did not want HR doing a 400 mile round-trip to FA HQ several times a week - and so he turned it down.
Mystery over.0 -
I prefer masicat's story ;-)0
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I remember that game for Mills ending Dicks career with the way he took him to pieces going forward0
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Mrs. R did not want HR doing a 400 mile round-trip to FA HQ several times a week - and so he turned it down.
Show me a quote that reveals that. The FA said they didn't approach him. He said he wasn't approached. So you're talking shit.
Mystery over.0 -
@masicat
Well you've posted some crap on here in the past mate but I take it all back now. Excellent piece.
Love it. Let's hope it goes viral.0 -
Guess we've all had our moments when we've felt the manager's lost it, but thanks for the memories - big of you to relive it for us.0
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Great game and day that was.0
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I remember that game for Mills ending Dicks career with the way he took him to pieces going forward
Now you mention it, I recall having EXACTLY the same thoughts at the time myself! It was sad to see Dicks struggle so much, though conversely taking apart a big 'name' did wonders for Mills' reputation, and helped his eventual rise to the England team.0 -
I belive this was in the papers yesterday from a source close to HarryMrs. R did not want HR doing a 400 mile round-trip to FA HQ several times a week - and so he turned it down.
Mystery over.
Show me a quote that reveals that. The FA said they didn't approach him. He said he wasn't approached. So you're talking shit.0 -
Definitely true then!!!0
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Calm down fella!Mrs. R did not want HR doing a 400 mile round-trip to FA HQ several times a week - and so he turned it down.
Show me a quote that reveals that. The FA said they didn't approach him. He said he wasn't approached. So you're talking shit.
Mystery over.
The link to this story is on the NEXT ENGLAND MANAGER thread if you can be bothered to read through it before laying into people.
Page 3, penultimate post.
http://forum.charltonlife.com/discussion/47922/next-england-manager/p30 -
I reckon they sounded out Harrys boss - his wife (as above)..
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sorry sorry. i did have a read of it and it wasn't convincing but whatever..
more importantly, i wish john robinson was still playing.0 -
The OP is the first part of an article thats been posted on KUMB today. Heres the full article:
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My bother supports the yids ( poor fella ) and goes to most games, he said harry redknapp is a good manager when things are going his way but when they are not he is shown up as he has no plan b and lacks tactical knowledge about how to change it round0
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superb ... also never seen that beore LOL0
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Remember that night like it was yesterday, Ilic missed the game through injury (week before had a bang on the head against the Italian Chelsea Team) Petterson was in goal (out of depth isnt the word). Ian Wright was playing for the Hammers that dayand I think Carl Tiler scored on his home debut.
Pissed down the whole game i think too.
Miss those days.0 -
Pissed down the whole game i think too.
yup ... and none us of cared ... I was at front of East Stand and got soaked0 -
Things went wrong when it transpired that he was a thieving so and so0
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Remember the game well: The following Monday I was in a boxing gym in Clapton with Lennox Lewis and he said that he was at the game (he's a 'ammer) and that "David" Mills had run WHUFC ragged: "You pratt" I said, "Its Danny Mills" !
Total silence.
Then he laughed. "Thats what I meant". He said.0 -
sorry sorry. i did have a read of it and it wasn't convincing but whatever..
Well great though JR was, I think at nearly 41 he might be a tad past it now;-)
more importantly, i wish john robinson was still playing.
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I think you had to be there MOG....0
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My memory of that game is fleeting, but I thought it Was Shaun Newton who did the business to bring us back into it... might be wrong though!0
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Didn't The Guardian's Secret Footballer say that Harry Redknapp puts the team out but gives practically no information as to tactics. I think he said he tells them before kick off who's taking free kicks and corners and that's it.
Would make sense because I remember him admitting that he calls Jamie Redknapp at half time for advice.0 -
Didn't The Guardian's Secret Footballer say that Harry Redknapp puts the team out but gives practically no information as to tactics. I think he said he tells them before kick off who's taking free kicks and corners and that's it.
I've always thought it's a bit of a ruse. As a journalist once put it in a piece on HR, "it takes a smart man to understand the advantages of stupidity"
Would make sense because I remember him admitting that he calls Jamie Redknapp at half time for advice.0 -
I would hardly say the people's runaway favourite for the top job in England has a 'ruined reputation' based on one defeat 13 years ago.
If anything his reputation is about five times bigger now than it was then!0 -
I do agree. After all, Cloughie just used to put a team together and motivate the individual. It's a philosophy that definitely has its own advantages, just wonder if the FA were looking for a more technical approach.Didn't The Guardian's Secret Footballer say that Harry Redknapp puts the team out but gives practically no information as to tactics. I think he said he tells them before kick off who's taking free kicks and corners and that's it.
I've always thought it's a bit of a ruse. As a journalist once put it in a piece on HR, "it takes a smart man to understand the advantages of stupidity"
Would make sense because I remember him admitting that he calls Jamie Redknapp at half time for advice.0
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