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Hamer and Sullivan vs. The Steward
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It will become like a wedding invite soon. Family members invited from all parts of the country and getting 'their' moment of glory.
It's becoming like a free-for-all.
Let the players get the reception THEY deserve and keep families for the after event.
I bet half of them haven't even been to a game this season before yesterday.0 -
Maybe KHA , but their families have had to put up with a lot , i didn't mind really , you can always find something to moan about ( not you personally).
Must be a hard life being related to a footballer.
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Well I thought it was great to let the families celebrate with the players. Its all part of the togetherness which has been restored at our club.
For those who wanted a pitch invasion, how much better was that celebration than the scrum that occurred at Hillsborough?0 -
If he lets the wrong person on, he is sacked.0
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Odds are that the steward wanted to let the guys in question on, and was fully aware that it was the logical common sense decision BUT it was not his call to make. The rules are no-one from that stand are allowed on the pitch, the rules he did not make but has to follow if he wants to keep the job. Not a jobsworth, not a wanker just a bloke in a tricky spot.0
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Maybe KHA , but their families have had to put up with a lot , i didn't mind really , you can always find something to moan about ( not you personally).
Of course, it's lovely for them, to be involved, but just, maybe, after the lap of honour? Also I think the argument that it's nice to reward those that have to put up with the life doesn't need to extend to friends, nieces and nephews.
As I said I didn't want to moan, but I would have liked to have had a lap of honour with a full stadium with just the players. From the East stand all we saw of the players celebrations was their backs. If they'd done the dance for the cameras and then brought the cup to the stands together (rather like what happens at all major Cup Finals, and the playoff final in 1998) it would have been better, in my view.
When the whole stadium is full of home fans you can't do the celebration in front of all of them at once, I completely understand that, which is why I thought they were going to do a lap of honor with the trophy - but they didn't do one in the end.
As I said I don't want to be moaning, I really don't enjoy it, but I would have been lying if I'd said I thought the best idea was to bin the lap of honour in favour of watching the families have their photo taken with the cup - which they have, presumably, a whole year to organise.0 -
Odds are that the steward wanted to let the guys in question on, and was fully aware that it was the logical common sense decision BUT it was not his call to make. The rules are no-one from that stand are allowed on the pitch, the rules he did not make but has to follow if he wants to keep the job. Not a jobsworth, not a wanker just a bloke in a tricky spot.
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That's a good point about the positioning of the podium. Why was it there facing that way?
Why not put the back to the away fans so that the Charlton fans could all see?
Also it meant that the camera was behind it , and it looked terrible on the FLS.0 -
Facing the directors box0
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Is that some type of rule set by the football league that has to be upheld ?0
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I would imagine its because our sponsors wanted it that way0
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I like the families on the pitch. You never know, some of those kids might just grow up to be Charlton fans, but if you freeze them out when their dad's are celebrating a glorious season like that, they might just think what a miserable club we are.0
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That's a good point about the positioning of the podium. Why was it there facing that way?
Perhaps so that it's facing into the light and the quality of the tv and press pictures will be better. Except that the bloody BBC couldn't be arsed to move themselves, so on telly we saw it all from behind.
Why not put the back to the away fans so that the Charlton fans could all see?
Also it meant that the camera was behind it , and it looked terrible on the FLS.
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There are a few things here. Firstly we can thank Dennis Wise for all this kids,on the pitch after the game which i don't really have a problem. However it went to a different level yesterday where players were brings on members of their family and friends regardless of there ages. The steward was getting instructions from his superiors in his ear piece not to let other people on the pitch. It was difficult to see players on the pitch at the end let alone the trophy, in my opinion it would have made more sense for the players to parade the trophy and get there well earned applause, and then let there kids on after.0
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Dennis Wise?
I agree it was all a bit chaotic with the amount of people on there.0 -
He was the first to do it at Wembley and since then it has become fairly common. I thought it looked a bit tatty yesterday, really, lots of people with no obvious connection. No big deal but anyway.0
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Facing the directors box
Surely it was there so the screen with CHAMPIONS was behind??
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We won the league, we got 100 plus points, we got promoted after that I really don't care, let the players have their moment of glory for some they may never have those scenes again. If they want to bring on their boyfriends, girlfriends, mothers to their children, sisters, aunts, 4 th cousins six times removed ... I don't care ... We paid to watch a football match after that all is a bonus.0
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Lucky the jobs worth was not stewarding at Tottenham when Fabrice Muamba needed treatment from Dr Andrew Deaner the cardiologist who was a home supporter in the crowd.
Common sense could have prevailed.0 -
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Lucky the jobs worth was not stewarding at Tottenham when Fabrice Muamba needed treatment from Dr Andrew Deaner the cardiologist who was a home supporter in the crowd.
How on Earth Can you compare this incident to the Fabrice Muamba incident. ?
Common sense could have prevailed.0 -
Would he have let the Doctor on the pitch?0
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It's not about the severity of the incident with Muamba but the arrogance of the steward.0
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Why is everyone making out this steward to be the next Fred West.... ?
He is doing and has done HIS JOB FFS !
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I'm, personally, not sure of the logistics of the players families (and not just partners and children - there was many teenagers running around the pitch) coming on and taking it in turns having their photo taken with the cup while half of the fans left before the cup was paraded around the ground.
Good post But (and I know I'll get slated for this) , I feel some sympathy for the 'jobsworths'. My youngest son currently works as a steward at various clubs in diffferent professional sports (football/cricket/horse racing) - and basically they do as they're told. So when Charlton stewards get it wrong, I'd look to whoever briefed and instructed them rather than decent individuals who aren't wearing a high-vis jacket because they like the power and authority , but simply because they can't get a better job and in order to survive are forced to take shit gigs like stewarding which pay no more than nat. minimum wage.
Surely they could have had their photo's taken aft the fans had left?
I know I'll get slated for this, but in the end the cup wasn't brout 'round by the team it was carried 'round by three players after the rest had gone. It also meant that the ground was mostly empty by the time Powell made his speech, which I missed as I thought it was all over.
I guess it doesn't really matter, but I would have thought a lap of honour by the players and the cup before the families came on the pitch would have been better.
Moan over.
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Why didn't you and your mate in your profile picture come to the rescue of Hamer and Sullivan?0
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Personally, I agree with what KHA says. Don't mind them bringing their kids on but thought it got a bit silly and would have loved to see just the team do a lap of honour with the pot before bringing others onto the pitch. All got a bit shambolic I thought. Luckily I hung around to hear CP's speech (apologies to Blackheathaddict waiting to drive home).
"You're getting sacked in the morning".........................0 -
So where were all the stewards when it was kicking off in J-block ?
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Shepherding the Wags in the NWQ.0
