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Newcastle's Muslim stars told not to play in new kit

Folev the red
Folev the red Posts: 2,087
edited October 2012 in Other Football and Sports
http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/news/newcastles-muslim-stars-told-play-new-kit-070006117.html

The reasoning here from the Muslim Council of Britain is "The Islamic system is based on a non-interest-based system of transaction."

What I don't understand is Newcastle play in a league sponsored by a bank (barclays), in the league cup sponsored by capitol one, the FA cup sponsored by Budweiser, and also the Europa League sponsored by Western Union. Why is sponsorship of a kit something different?

As someone on that article has already pointed out, do those muslim footballers put any of the money from their enormous wages into 'non-interest' bank accounts?

So if we had someone refusing to wear our shirt because of religious beliefs would you sack them for breaking company law? Is it not in all sponsorship agreements and player contracts that all outfield players will have the sponsors name/logo which they paid for on the shirt?
Furthermore is it even right that a law from a foreign land should have any bearing on howpeople living in this country should live their lives?

Just wondering what everyone thought on this because although i hear a few kent players refuse to wear the 20/20 shirts due to a brewery sponsoring the kit, this is something that until now i've never heard of happening in football?
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  • yes a few of the kent muslim players dont have the alchol sponser on their shirt as alchol is a sin.

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    fair play to them.
  • leftbehind
    leftbehind Posts: 8,581
    Sack them breach of contract
  • DiscoCAFC
    DiscoCAFC Posts: 1,762
    I'm sorry but this is the English league, not the Arab league.
  • Huskaris
    Huskaris Posts: 9,853
    This is ridiculous. Many financial institutions offer Islamic Financial products anyway. It's not as black and white as alcohol or anything.
    As was said before this is the English League not the arab one.
  • cafcdave123
    cafcdave123 Posts: 11,491
    hang em!
  • oohaahmortimer
    oohaahmortimer Posts: 34,155
    edited October 2012
    didn't Charlton turn down sponsorship from bookies, alcoholic beverage firms and mooody money lenders on a moral issue
  • SE10
    SE10 Posts: 2,169
    edited October 2012
    Sack them if they refuse to wear it.

    British people obey there extremely strict rules in traditional muslim countrys, yet we pander to every need they have.

    No doubt certain people/groups will cry racism though if that happens.
  • Greg
    Greg Posts: 130
    Well, if their objection is to advertising wonga.com, I don't blame them. It really is an immoral company, taking advantage of the needy to make a disgusting amount of money.
  • Greg said:

    Well, if their objection is to advertising wonga.com, I don't blame them. It really is an immoral company, taking advantage of the needy to make a disgusting amount of money.

    I agree with that but this is good publicity for wonga.com, so I doubt they'll be complaining too much.

  • Rizzo
    Rizzo Posts: 6,435
    edited October 2012
    Greg said:

    Well, if their objection is to advertising wonga.com, I don't blame them. It really is an immoral company, taking advantage of the needy to make a disgusting amount of money.

    Yeah, bunch of bastards. Kidnapping people off the street and forcing them to borrow money at an agreed rate for an agreed period.

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  • Bedsaddick
    Bedsaddick Posts: 24,752
    edited October 2012
    Sack them . End of
  • CrayAddick
    CrayAddick Posts: 3,913
    Jeez what's the world coming to
  • Greg
    Greg Posts: 130
    Rizzo said:

    Yeah, bunch of bastards. Kidnapping people off the street and forcing them to borrow money.

    Fair enough, nobody is being forced to borrow anything. But a business model based on a representative APR of over 4000%, while perfectly legal, is not really cool. I wouldn't want them sponsoring Charlton, personally.
  • They'll wear the shirts. The MCB aren't expressing the views of the players.
  • Rizzo
    Rizzo Posts: 6,435
    edited October 2012
    Greg said:

    Rizzo said:

    Yeah, bunch of bastards. Kidnapping people off the street and forcing them to borrow money.

    Fair enough, nobody is being forced to borrow anything. But a business model based on a representative APR of over 4000%, while perfectly legal, is not really cool. I wouldn't want them sponsoring Charlton, personally.
    There's a reasonable argument made by this sort of loan company that the "x% APR representative" is highly misleading. The rate quoted is what you'd end up paying if you borrowed the money for a year but these are short-term loans. You will of course pay a hefty rate of interest but nowhere near the figures that they are forced by law to advertise.

  • Greg
    Greg Posts: 130
    Rizzo said:

    There's a reasonable argument made by this sort of loan company that the "x% APR representative" is highly misleading. The rate quoted is what you'd end up paying if you borrowed the money for a year but these are short-term loans. You will of course pay a hefty rate of interest but nowhere near the figures that they are forced by law to advertise.

    Fair point about APR - I obviously used it to make a point (and got found out!). And they are probably better than going to a loan shark for a payday-style loan. But at the same time, they are clearly making enough of a profit out of desperate people to sponsor a premiership team's kit.

    And they have really bloody annoying adverts!
  • Swisdom
    Swisdom Posts: 14,977

    didn't Charlton turn down sponsorship from bookies, alcoholic beverage firms and mooody money lenders on a moral issue

    I believe this is the case

    And I'm glad

  • So they had no objections to Northern rock the previous sponsor's charging interest or paying interest.
  • Addickted4life
    Addickted4life Posts: 7,467
    edited October 2012
    This is Britain not Pakistan, sack them if they do it (which they probably won't).
  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,045
    Have any of the players said they're going to adhere to this verdict by the MCB or are you all just flying off the handle for no reason ?
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  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 37,984
    seems like a bit of a nothing story

    id be suprised if Demba Ba, Papiss Cisse, Cheick Tiote and Hatem Ben Arfa all follow Muslim rule by the book anyway.
  • iaitch
    iaitch Posts: 10,230
    Greg said:

    Well, if their objection is to advertising wonga.com, I don't blame them. It really is an immoral company, taking advantage of the needy to make a disgusting amount of money.

    Barclays who sponsor the Premier League also make a disgusting amount of money but don't hear any objections about that.

  • Friend Or Defoe
    Friend Or Defoe Posts: 18,101
    edited October 2012

    seems like a bit of a nothing story

    id be suprised if Demba Ba, Papiss Cisse, Cheick Tiote and Hatem Ben Arfa all follow Muslim rule by the book anyway.

    After Wonga decided against naming the ground they probably asked the MCB their opinion of the Wonga story, who said they're against it. Wolla, headline story and mass hysteria.

    If they sacked Demba Ba, Papiss Cisse, Cheick Tiote and Hatem Ben Arfa they would probably get relegated.
  • Rizzo
    Rizzo Posts: 6,435
    To be fair, Wonga actually changed the name back to St James' Park, which is a damn sight better than Mike Ashley did!
  • wolla wonga demba... said the witch doctor....
  • seems like a bit of a nothing story

    id be suprised if Demba Ba, Papiss Cisse, Cheick Tiote and Hatem Ben Arfa all follow Muslim rule by the book anyway.

    After Wonga decided against naming the ground they probably asked the MCB their opinion of the Wonga story, who said they're against it. Wolla, headline story and mass hysteria.
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    Nail on the head.
  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,045
    So the story is that an organisation established to uphold muslim values has issued a statement upholding Muslim values ?
  • Macronate
    Macronate Posts: 12,896
    this is in response to Abu Hamza's deportation.

    you get rid of one of our most powerful clerical leaders, we'll try to stop players wearing stripey shirts.

    tit for tat.
  • Dansk_Red
    Dansk_Red Posts: 5,728
    Who objected to the British Taxpayer sponsoring Newcastle United via the Northern Rock Bank.
  • Algarveaddick
    Algarveaddick Posts: 21,156
    It's all about power, as with all religion. They just like telling people what to do.