It's a culture, it's a state of mind, it's a language, it's fashion, it's a style, it's something you feel every moment of your day. Hip hop is not commercial shit, hip hop is deep, it has a meaning for each person. You don't just listen to hip hop music, you feel it, you respect it, understand it, share it.
i just think some of it sounds alright, but yeah...
It's a culture, it's a state of mind, it's a language, it's fashion, it's a style, it's something you feel every moment of your day. Opera is not commercial shit, Opera is deep, it has a meaning for each person. You don't just listen to Opera music, you feel it, you respect it, understand it, share it.
You can say that about any style of music that you like. Personally I wouldn't cos it sounds poncey, but you could! ;o)
There were far better rappers at the time they were at their biggest. People like:
The Pharcyde Jurassic 5 Gang Starr Q-Tip
Maybe different styles but ultimately all these were/are better rappers, IMO.
I agree there were/are better rappers than the two mentioned in the OP, the original question didn't ask who was the best ever. Just out of those 2 which is the best.
There were far better rappers at the time they were at their biggest. People like:
The Pharcyde Jurassic 5 Gang Starr Q-Tip
Maybe different styles but ultimately all these were/are better rappers, IMO.
I agree there were/are better rappers than the two mentioned in the OP, the original question didn't ask who was the best ever. Just out of those 2 which is the best.
And anyway you left Nas off your list
I think they were both as crap as each other. That's what I meant to put ;-)
For Everyone slating theses two artist's i recomend that you watch, an old documentary called (tupac vs Notorious , a rivalry explained) One of the greatest documentary ive seen such an interesting story
Both overrated, overhyped shit. Real rap is JMT, Jeru, Cannibal Ox, Nas, Company Flow, Black Sheep, Public Enemy, Beasties, Black Moon, Pharcyde, Ice Cube, Mobb Deep, Mos Def etc. That Hype Williams/Ja Rule/Notorious BIG/Tupac/P-Diddy/Jay-Z shit is embarrassing - it's like comparing Depeche Mode with Boyzone.
Out of the two would have to say Biggie, his flow and tone was phenomenal at times but I was never a massive fan of either. Like others have said there were/are better artists around like Brand Nubian (love Sadat X's nasal tone), Tribe Called Quest, Gang Starr, Black Sheep, Diamond D, Common, Talib Kweli etc etc. Special mention to B Real of Cypress Hill - absolutely looove his style.
Both overrated, overhyped shit. Real rap is JMT, Jeru, Cannibal Ox, Nas, Company Flow, Black Sheep, Public Enemy, Beasties, Black Moon, Pharcyde, Ice Cube, Mobb Deep, Mos Def etc. That Hype Williams/Ja Rule/Notorious BIG/Tupac/P-Diddy/Jay-Z shit is embarrassing - it's like comparing Depeche Mode with Boyzone.
Ha do me a favour, but i suppose it's your taste !
Best rapper - BIG Best catalogue - Pac Best flow - BIG Best lyrics - Pac Best beats - BIG Most potent - Pac
Who had a higher proportion of forgettable songs - Tupac Who was the hardest working - Tupac Who was the best storyteller - BIG Who was the best human being - Tupac
But personally, who would I rather listen to? Easily Tupac
Anyone else think Tupac would have been a huge success as an actor? Juice is a quality film, Poetic Justice bit 'meh'. Thought he was superb in Gridlock'd.
Anyone else think Tupac would have been a huge success as an actor? Juice is a quality film, Poetic Justice bit 'meh'. Thought he was superb in Gridlock'd.
which one was it that he was along side tim roth? thats was a good film.
Both overrated, overhyped shit. Real rap is JMT, Jeru, Cannibal Ox, Nas, Company Flow, Black Sheep, Public Enemy, Beasties, Black Moon, Pharcyde, Ice Cube, Mobb Deep, Mos Def etc. That Hype Williams/Ja Rule/Notorious BIG/Tupac/P-Diddy/Jay-Z shit is embarrassing - it's like comparing Depeche Mode with Boyzone.
Sorry but I think that's very unfair to compare Big and 2pac to those. I agree they were both overrated but at least they did have a story to tell and most of the time told it very well. Early Jay Z to an extent as well but the crap that is flooding out of America at the moment is absolute crap.
Saying that though true East coast stuff is having a bit of a revival, downloaded some excellent mixtapes from some promising people.
There were far better rappers at the time they were at their biggest. People like:
The Pharcyde Jurassic 5 Gang Starr Q-Tip
Maybe different styles but ultimately all these were/are better rappers, IMO.
Obviously j5 made better music and guru/dj prem where an unbeatable mix. But the big v 2pak is a more common debate. Not saying either was the best ever though
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There were far better rappers at the time they were at their biggest. People like:
The Pharcyde
Jurassic 5
Gang Starr
Q-Tip
Maybe different styles but ultimately all these were/are better rappers, IMO.
And anyway you left Nas off your list
For Everyone slating theses two artist's i recomend that you watch, an old documentary called
(tupac vs Notorious , a rivalry explained)
One of the greatest documentary ive seen such an interesting story
Best rapper - BIG
Best catalogue - Pac
Best flow - BIG
Best lyrics - Pac
Best beats - BIG
Most potent - Pac
Who had a higher proportion of forgettable songs - Tupac
Who was the hardest working - Tupac
Who was the best storyteller - BIG
Who was the best human being - Tupac
But personally, who would I rather listen to? Easily Tupac
Saying that though true East coast stuff is having a bit of a revival, downloaded some excellent mixtapes from some promising people.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xVEa0SMxFg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0aCvTT4IJA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhVEwMe0bLs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZ3Ijpqco40
you may or may not like these songs, you may not like hip hop, but i hope these examples show you cant tar all hip hop music with the same brush
Ridiculous music