With the post about 6 minutes stoppage and that being the time addes last night it renews my thoughts for the way games are timed. For a while now I have believed instead of having a minimum of 'X' minutes added time I can see no reason what so ever why football can't see why football can't be timed the same way as a rugby match. No I don't mean making it 80 minutes. I mean having should minimum of 'X' minutes should be scrapped for having a clock that stops everytime the ball goes dead and when the clock strikes 45 minutes or 90 minutes (or 105 minutes or 120 minutes in the event of extra time) thats when the game ends. All someone has to od is put the ball out of play and thats is when the game is over. It would save a lot of confusuion. We had he confusion with Reading v Arsenal just last week when the ref played 2 minutes more than was advertised and we had it a Manchester derby 2 or 3 years ago when Michael Owen scored a very late winner for United well over a minute after the advertised time and we never heard the end of it from City for. I feel it's worth giving the rugby style a whirl.
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The ref can't accurately time matches and do all the other things he has to do. it is understandable they get caught up in the occasion sometimes. No doubt yesterday's ref will get in trouble with the assesor as the 6 mins wasn't justifiable. I wasn't too bothered at the time as I was enjoying the match and thought we might get another but it does highlight a problem that ought to be looked at but won't be.
We all see a lot of matches and it's nearly always 3 or 4 minutes whatever seems to have happened. Had Cardiff equalised I suspect Chris Powell and his staff would have needed all their powers of restraint to avoid a major confrontation.
I suspect it could have got very ugly.
All that is needed is that this stopwatch is connected up to a big screen clock so we can see that the ref has stopped his watch. It really is that simple.
To be accurate, the ref should stop his watch every time he feels necessary like Prague says (which shouldn't be too often as the reason games are 90 minutes is to allow for much of the out-of-play action).
With that in mind, 'injury time' doesn't really exist. So how does he know what the difference should be between his watch and the TV clock? And why is injury time nearly always an exact number?
Clearly they don't do it the way they should/ used to. Which means the whole timekeeping thing is a grey area. Which seems nuts to me. How can such an important aspect of the game be so debatable when it's simple maths? The only time a ref should keep a game going beyond time is fr a penatly, that's a rule in the sport. Yet they keep it going until an attack has finished, or sometimes until a 'Keeper has taken a goal kick. It ain't right!
Is this 'wasted' time part of the 90, or time that should be added on? Or is only part of it added on (e.g. the ref stopping the pushing)?
Currently the ref goes with a gut feeling on how much added time to play - yes, if there is a major incident he'll stop his watch, but for the most part I can predict the amount of time that will be added. Not because it is right but just because I watch enough games to get a feel for what refs do.
I think the ref played 6 minutes last night because he got a bit carried away in what was a terrific game. He was a bit inept - so many bookings in what was a very clean game!!!!
If you listen to BDL's announcements at the Valley, he always says 'the 4th official has indicated, that there will be a minimum of ..... which I beleive is the official line.
At other grounds I've heard them announce 'there will be 3 minutes extra time'. It's not extra time at all.
Only the referee will know how much time he's going to add. And as somebody pointed out earlier it's not added time, it's made up of the stoppages.
Putting the board up at 90 minutes compounds the issue. People will never agree on the time, or how much extra time is needed, or played.
Either have a clock and timekeeper like in other sports, or don't put the board up.
I'm sure we got by before these announcements were made.
They add 30 seconds for each substitution and 30 seconds for each goal, I believe. They can also add time wasting on to the injury time.
the current system is better than what we used to have, when they didn't even tell us how much injury time they were going to add.