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  • I think the Rooney hate is 90% directed towards what he doesn/doesn't do for England and all the emotions that come with big tournaments.

    Its no coincidence that United fans think he is brilliant. He is - a lot of England fans just have anti-climatic feelings after tournaments are done and he is usually the brunt of it all.
  • cafctom said:

    I think the Rooney hate is 90% directed towards what he doesn/doesn't do for England and all the emotions that come with big tournaments.

    Its no coincidence that United fans think he is brilliant. He is - a lot of England fans just have anti-climatic feelings after tournaments are done and he is usually the brunt of it all.

    He is a good player but he is not world class, as pundits keep saying, and the same goes for the likes of Gerrard, Lampard and Beckham.
  • Again, the whole "world class" thing confuses me. Do a lot of people actually understand what this term means?

    A lot of people confuse it being with 'best of the best'. Its not. It means someone is good enough to take their trade around the world and be highly competent at it. Wayne Rooney would be at least reasonably successful in near enough every major league and wouldn't look out of place at any club in the world - even if he was on the bench for the likes of Barcelona or Madrid. So, by that definition, he is world class in my eyes.
  • Tom, surely that's your opinion of what world class means
  • cafctom said:

    Again, the whole "world class" thing confuses me. Do a lot of people actually understand what this term means?

    A lot of people confuse it being with 'best of the best'. Its not. It means someone is good enough to take their trade around the world and be highly competent at it.

    Not sure I'd agree with that, I don't think the geography of where you're able to ply your trade has anything to do with it - it's about being among the best in the world. Under your definition a lot of pretty average Premier league players would be 'world class' on the basis that they could also be 'highly competent' in La Liga, Serie A, the Bundesliga etc.

    I would suggest that world class would mean that you were among the very best players in the world in your position - ie if you were putting 'world XI' together then a world class player should be in contention for a place, not merely sufficiently competent to play in multiple international leagues.

  • The thread title is overrated footballers.

    Someone like Rooney is unquestionably very good but is he, and others like him, as great as the media would have us believe?
  • colthe3rd said:

    Tom, surely that's your opinion of what world class means

    Correct. As if there's a textbook definition for such a term.
  • colthe3rd said:

    Tom, surely that's your opinion of what world class means

    Correct. As if there's a textbook definition for such a term.
    there should be a book giving detailed descriptions of words and small phrases. I would call it, the kentaddicktionary
  • colthe3rd said:

    Tom, surely that's your opinion of what world class means

    Correct. As if there's a textbook definition for such a term.
    I think there might be though
  • colthe3rd said:

    colthe3rd said:

    Tom, surely that's your opinion of what world class means

    Correct. As if there's a textbook definition for such a term.
    I think there might be though
    Love to see it.

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  • colthe3rd said:

    colthe3rd said:

    Tom, surely that's your opinion of what world class means

    Correct. As if there's a textbook definition for such a term.
    I think there might be though
    Love to see it.

    http://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/world-class
  • colthe3rd said:

    colthe3rd said:

    colthe3rd said:

    Tom, surely that's your opinion of what world class means

    Correct. As if there's a textbook definition for such a term.
    I think there might be though
    Love to see it.

    http://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/world-class
    Still very broad/vague though don't you think? I mean where do you draw the line? What constitutes the necessary skill, for example.
  • to be fair to Rooney, ITV over-rate everybody. Only football i watch in silence.
  • to be fair to Rooney, ITV over-rate everybody. Only football i watch in silence.

    and when you are at the valley :)
  • Cheick Tiote
  • harry cripps
  • Arjen Robben

    Watching him last night, Evra had a mare. The bloke comes inside onto his left foot every single time. A better defender would show him down the line and he would be cack.
  • Arjen Robben

    Watching him last night, Evra had a mare. The bloke comes inside onto his left foot every single time. A better defender would show him down the line and he would be cack.

    So much easier said than done, VG.
  • Arjen Robben

    Watching him last night, Evra had a mare. The bloke comes inside onto his left foot every single time. A better defender would show him down the line and he would be cack.

    So much easier said than done, VG.
    ha agree mate, but Evra didn't even shape up to do it. Was driving me mad.
  • Arjen Robben

    Watching him last night, Evra had a mare. The bloke comes inside onto his left foot every single time. A better defender would show him down the line and he would be cack.

    world defences have been trying for about a decade. He's that good he can keep doing the same thing again and again.

    Ribery is overrated for me, always been touted as one of the best wingers in the world but everytime i see him he's been lame.
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  • Kolarov beyond me what they see in him defensively inept and going forward hits everything 100mph
  • Ribery and Robben overated. You guys are havin' a larf.
  • Arjen Robben

    Watching him last night, Evra had a mare. The bloke comes inside onto his left foot every single time. A better defender would show him down the line and he would be cack.

    Evra has tried that against him before, and Robben destroyed him all night. Just doesn't work. You have to give him so much space down the line that he just dribbles round the full back that way instead.
  • if only united had evina.
  • Most England due to media hype but particularly Rooney. How United fans put up with him after he mugged them twice I'll never know.
  • I don't think I've ever seen Ribery have a good game
  • Wilshere without a doubt
  • Agree that Robben is overrated, Harriot works much better as an inverted winger. In fact, the whole Bayern team are overrated.....I mean, what have they ever won? :-)
  • You haven't proved anything until you've won League One

  • Ashley Young

    The rest of Man Utd's first 11 (except van Persie)
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