Don't know if anyone on here listened to 606 on Sunday. Jason Roberts was being questioned about footballers' wages and how out of control it had got in the Premiership.
I did and yes he didn't seem to understand the guy's point about other people not being able to just go and ask for what they like alongside an agent and expect to get it...
But it is true to an extent clubs are almost forced too through either fan pressure and ofcourse "chasing the dream"
Even we've probably both tried to do it on a lower level - did you have fans asking for more and more to be spent just to make sure you stayed in the top 10 of the Premiership for example?
I remember reading in the 'Secret Footballer' where he was discussing players wages and described a conversation that he had once with the then CEO of Man City (Gary Cook I assume). He asked how Man City could afford and justify offering players upwards of £200,000 per week. The CEO explained that the Abu Dhabi Oil Fund makes £100 million a DAY so offering players these type of wages to atract them to the club was a piss in the ocean for them! Mind boggling!
Clubs have to try and compete with the big boys offering crazy wages to half decent players just to try and survive in the EPL. Something has to be done soon to try and level the playing field across all the divisions when it comes to players wages. FIFA's new ruling that aims to link clubs annual wage bill against their annual turnover is a step in the right direction, if enforced???
I remember reading in the 'Secret Footballer' where he was discussing players wages and described a conversation that he had once with the then CEO of Man City (Gary Cook I assume). He asked how Man City could afford and justify offering players upwards of £200,000 per week. The CEO explained that the Abu Dhabi Oil Fund makes £100 million a DAY so offering players these type of wages to atract them to the club was a piss in the ocean for them! Mind boggling!
Clubs have to try and compete with the big boys offering crazy wages to half decent players just to try and survive in the EPL. Something has to be done soon to try and level the playing field across all the divisions when it comes to players wages. FIFA's new ruling that aims to link clubs annual wage bill against their annual turnover is a step in the right direction, if enforced???
and if it fairly back dates the system so that clubs like Man Utd/Arsenal/Liverpool and the other big clubs don't get an advantage just because they screwed the system years ago to get to a postion where they can criticise clubs like Chelsea/Man City.
Average annual wage 38k? Where did you get that from - the Evening subStandard? The average wage in the UK last year was £26,500 - according to the ONS. The average annual wage in 2000 was £18,848 - so I'm not sure where you get the average figure of 19k pa in 1991 either.
Is this an example of giving young players too much too soon?
Ok players get injured and it probably affects them but most make an effort to get fit at least. This guy didn't appear to maybe because he knew City were prepared to wait and keep him on the wages he had?
Why does everyone think footballers shouldn't earn as much as they can? Tennis players and golfers earn as much if not more than footballers and I know what I would rather pay to watch.... As for the bloke who phoned 606, he also compared it to what nurses earn! Well I'm sorry as great a job as they do, you don't get hundreds of thousands paying to watch a nurse work on a Saturday afternoon. People love to watch football and pay for the right to do that, therefore there is a lot of money to be shared out amongst the people involved. I don't see why the people who actually play cant have a big share of it. Rather that than sky get even wealthier.
Average annual wage 38k? Where did you get that from - the Evening subStandard? The average wage in the UK last year was £26,500 - according to the ONS. The average annual wage in 2000 was £18,848 - so I'm not sure where you get the average figure of 19k pa in 1991 either.
Sorry chief, sloppy research on my part, I got the first figures from a rather rushed Google search...
Is this an example of giving young players too much too soon?
Ok players get injured and it probably affects them but most make an effort to get fit at least. This guy didn't appear to maybe because he knew City were prepared to wait and keep him on the wages he had?
I remember he was highly rated and scored a couple of cracking goals.
I had him in my fantasy league team about six years ago, I thought he would be a big star. That photo of him in the takeaway is amazing. Surely Man City realised he wasnt interested ages ago.
A much bigger problem than the level of wages in the EPL, obscene though they may be, is the length of player's contracts. How many members of this Forum have a 4-yr contact, or 2-yrs or even 1-yr? Nobody I'll wager.
The consequence of this, of course, is that when teams are relegated from the EPL (or the Championship for that matter) they are in big trouble; revenues fall sharply, but the players who got the Club relegated expect to get paid as if nothing had happened. Because they're no good - that's why the Club was relegated - nobody will buy them, at least not on their current contractual terms, so the Club are stuck with them. The solution to this is not to do something sensible like legislate over contract length or enforce a performance dependency, it's to make the parachute payments even bigger, further destabilising the Championship where we and most other Clubs are now happily losing money hand over fist as a result.
Great article by Oliver Kay in the Times this morning on Financial Fair Play, explaining why it will be anything but.
I don't like the American system of closed leagues, but at least they've thought about the problem with their salary caps, draft systems etc. They make extensive use of technology too of course, as anybody with an ounce of common sense would. Why is it that the game we all have such a huge, life long, emotional attachment to is run by a bunch of complete muppets?
A much bigger problem than the level of wages in the EPL, obscene though they may be, is the length of player's contracts. How many members of this Forum have a 4-yr contact, or 2-yrs or even 1-yr? Nobody I'll wager.
The consequence of this, of course, is that when teams are relegated from the EPL (or the Championship for that matter) they are in big trouble; revenues fall sharply, but the players who got the Club relegated expect to get paid as if nothing had happened. Because they're no good - that's why the Club was relegated - nobody will buy them, at least not on their current contractual terms, so the Club are stuck with them. The solution to this is not to do something sensible like legislate over contract length or enforce a performance dependency, it's to make the parachute payments even bigger, further destabilising the Championship where we and most other Clubs are now happily losing money hand over fist as a result.
Great article by Oliver Kay in the Times this morning on Financial Fair Play, explaining why it will be anything but.
I don't like the American system of closed leagues, but at least they've thought about the problem with their salary caps, draft systems etc. They make extensive use of technology too of course, as anybody with an ounce of common sense would. Why is it that the game we all have such a huge, life long, emotional attachment to is run by a bunch of complete muppets?
And managers......... A certain Mr Pardew getting an 8 year one springs to mind.
A much bigger problem than the level of wages in the EPL, obscene though they may be, is the length of player's contracts. How many members of this Forum have a 4-yr contact, or 2-yrs or even 1-yr? Nobody I'll wager.
A much bigger problem than the level of wages in the EPL, obscene though they may be, is the length of player's contracts. How many members of this Forum have a 4-yr contact, or 2-yrs or even 1-yr? Nobody I'll wager.
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But it is true to an extent clubs are almost forced too through either fan pressure and ofcourse "chasing the dream"
Even we've probably both tried to do it on a lower level - did you have fans asking for more and more to be spent just to make sure you stayed in the top 10 of the Premiership for example?
Clubs have to try and compete with the big boys offering crazy wages to half decent players just to try and survive in the EPL. Something has to be done soon to try and level the playing field across all the divisions when it comes to players wages. FIFA's new ruling that aims to link clubs annual wage bill against their annual turnover is a step in the right direction, if enforced???
Ok players get injured and it probably affects them but most make an effort to get fit at least. This guy didn't appear to maybe because he knew City were prepared to wait and keep him on the wages he had?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2262707/Michael-Johnson-released-Manchester-City-pictured-takeaway.html
I remember he was highly rated and scored a couple of cracking goals.
TV deal in 91 =£11m per season
TV from next season =£1.04bn per season
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/8120382/Inflation-and-earnings-what-is-the-cost-of-a-pint-of-beer.html
.....I later corrected the 38K figure and replaced it with the 26,500 figure from ONS.
I can't find the ONS figure for 1991 but I suspect you are right and that its probably closer to around 11,000.
I must admit I did think those original figures were high, especially the 38K!
I had him in my fantasy league team about six years ago, I thought he would be a big star.
That photo of him in the takeaway is amazing. Surely Man City realised he wasnt interested ages ago.
The consequence of this, of course, is that when teams are relegated from the EPL (or the Championship for that matter) they are in big trouble; revenues fall sharply, but the players who got the Club relegated expect to get paid as if nothing had happened. Because they're no good - that's why the Club was relegated - nobody will buy them, at least not on their current contractual terms, so the Club are stuck with them. The solution to this is not to do something sensible like legislate over contract length or enforce a performance dependency, it's to make the parachute payments even bigger, further destabilising the Championship where we and most other Clubs are now happily losing money hand over fist as a result.
Great article by Oliver Kay in the Times this morning on Financial Fair Play, explaining why it will be anything but.
I don't like the American system of closed leagues, but at least they've thought about the problem with their salary caps, draft systems etc. They make extensive use of technology too of course, as anybody with an ounce of common sense would. Why is it that the game we all have such a huge, life long, emotional attachment to is run by a bunch of complete muppets?
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