It's by no means certain that he did kill his nephews. There were others who stood to gain from their deaths (such as Henry Tudor) and in any case, it's not know for sure that they were even murdered at all. They disappeared but their bodies were never found.
There were several others who had a motive and stood to benefit from their deaths but its notable that they were in his "safe" custody at the time that they were last seen (the summer of 1483). The bodyguard that was taking Edward V to London was intercepted by Richard at Northampton and the leaders/Edward's guardians were taken to Richard's castle at Pontefract and were quietly executed not long afterwards.
Was Richard guilty of murder? I think so, but this was the nature of dynastic royal politics - look at the numbers of kings/queens who were offed in the Wars of the Roses and even before and it happened afterwards as well.
As for the hunchback, the C4 programme should be interesting. There is some evidence that a portrait of Richard III was altered after his death, but it was well known that he had some kind of deformity. Perhaps it was the original painting that was faked - to make Richard look normal and the Tudors merely corrected it?
The severe Eastern European he interviewed on the webcam (not the first time someone's done that) was q barrel of laughs too.
"HE WAS NOT A HUNCHBACK!" "The skeleton suggests l he might of been, a bit...." "NO." "Do you think he killed the princes?" "NO!" "He had evert reason to though, didn't he?" "NO!!"
It's by no means certain that he did kill his nephews. There were others who stood to gain from their deaths (such as Henry Tudor) and in any case, it's not know for sure that they were even murdered at all. They disappeared but their bodies were never found.
While his culpability in relation to the deaths of the princes may be debatable it is beyond doubt that he is responsible for millions in unpaid parking fines.
Am I the only one here who thinks this is all one great big hoax? Having watched the programme last night, I found it all so unbelieveable that I was waiting for Ricky Gervais to pop out and announce 'April Fool' or that it was an Office/Derek documentary spoof. It was all very, very odd!
...........they dug a random, speculative hole in a Leicester car park under the letter 'R', found one set of bones which just happened to be King Richard 3rd. Too ludicrous for words. Those people should definitely buy a lottery ticket tonight!
Am I the only one here who thinks this is all one great big hoax? Having watched the programme last night, I found it all so unbelieveable that I was waiting for Ricky Gervais to pop out and announce 'April Fool' or that it was an Office/Derek documentary spoof. It was all very, very odd!
Just finished watching the documentary on 4od. Thought it was really enjoyable to watch. Obviously she is a loon but they way it told the story of how the scientists became more convinced as the investigation progressed was really interesting.
Just finished watching the documentary on 4od. Thought it was really enjoyable to watch. Obviously she is a loon but they way it told the story of how the scientists became more convinced as the investigation progressed was really interesting.
Yes, it was interesting. I had previously watched the press conference live via a stream on the BBC's web site. This had a lot more facts which were left out of the programme, including more info on the injuries to the skull and some more specific stuff on the DNA testing including some comparison graphs. I was surprised some of this was missing from the programme.
It was an intereresting dicumentary. It was a bit funny to see supporters of Richard claim that his hunch back was a Tudor myth, then to find out it was true. Then it came down to, 'that isn't the face of a tyrant'!!!!!
Was fascinating all the same, as it/he was part of history. Surely the best solution for the bones would be for the area where he was found to make a tourist attraction around it.
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I blame the rozzers.
Was Richard guilty of murder? I think so, but this was the nature of dynastic royal politics - look at the numbers of kings/queens who were offed in the Wars of the Roses and even before and it happened afterwards as well.
As for the hunchback, the C4 programme should be interesting. There is some evidence that a portrait of Richard III was altered after his death, but it was well known that he had some kind of deformity. Perhaps it was the original painting that was faked - to make Richard look normal and the Tudors merely corrected it?
e.g. "I left a huge King Richard in the pan"
"HE WAS NOT A HUNCHBACK!"
"The skeleton suggests l he might of been, a bit...."
"NO."
"Do you think he killed the princes?"
"NO!"
"He had evert reason to though, didn't he?"
"NO!!"
Bit of a shame that the archaeolgist put the pick through the skull though !
Why she took it so personally was a bit curious - it seems that she's a leading light in the Richard III fan club:
http://www.richardiii.net/index.php
thedailymash.co.uk/news/society/richard-iii-to-pick-up-where-he-left-off-2013020458569
I love the "ordered a horse off the internet" bit!
Should of got Ant n Dec to do it...OR even better Philip Schofield! (reaches for loaded gun,,,)
The guy doing all the talking didnt know if he should make it funny or serious.
I couldn't stop singing "Stupid deaths, Stupid deaths" every time he came on.
Was a very interesting programme even if the RIII society woman was a bit OTT.
Was fascinating all the same, as it/he was part of history. Surely the best solution for the bones would be for the area where he was found to make a tourist attraction around it.