Millwall attendance last night
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it's £340,000 (+another £360,000 if they beat blackburn) prize money that we haven't had to worry about spending.Henry Irving said:
What is more serious is the millwall funder/owner saying that they would fail the financial fair play rules as it stands while fallling league gates mean the cup run has had little impact money wise.
No that Charlton's finances are all that healthy either.0 -
They got to wembley they played in Europe.
Just beat the scum----end of.
going to Wembley with these Pikeys and calling yourself CAFC----------FFS thats so wrong i dont know where to start !0 -
Good point Paulpaulsturgess said:The good thing is ignoring the fact I'd love to see them go back down, with the way the fixtures go, with the 40-1 now, if they do struggle in the next few games the odd will drop and people can potentially lay out of it and guarantee a profit before they have their run of home games in April.
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I'm gonna take Paul's advice above, and put a monkey on them to be relegated. 500 x 40 = 20 grand. Then, after 5 games, lay it off, just cream the profit - might be a tidy one, if they are 10-1 then i've made a 15k profit - have i got my figures right?0
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noThe_President said:I'm gonna take Paul's advice above, and put a monkey on them to be relegated. 500 x 40 = 20 grand. Then, after 5 games, lay it off, just cream the profit - might be a tidy one, if they are 10-1 then i've made a 15k profit - have i got my figures right?
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No idea but sorry to say you and anyone else staking money on them being relegated is wasting their money. 3 wins and a couple of draws and they will be safe and there's a lot worse teams in this Division. Funnily enough I don't include Peterborough in that, not just because of last night's result, but also because I thought they played really good football at the Valley earlier this season and were incredibly unlucky to lose.The_President said:I'm gonna take Paul's advice above, and put a monkey on them to be relegated. 500 x 40 = 20 grand. Then, after 5 games, lay it off, just cream the profit - might be a tidy one, if they are 10-1 then i've made a 15k profit - have i got my figures right?
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We won't beat Blackburn. & we wouldn't be given 45k for an FA Cup semi final.Brendan_O_Connell said:
Because when you beat Blackburn next month you'll muster up 45,000 to take to Wembley.Sparrows Lane Lion said:We're a small club, why are you constantly astounded by our low attendances?
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Yeah, but you are not getting Paul's point, in as much as just lay it off after 5 games - in other words just bet again on them NOT to be relegated.It doesnt matter then if they are relegated or not, you just take the difference in the odds.Fortune 82nd Minute said:
No idea but sorry to say you and anyone else staking money on them being relegated is wasting their money. 3 wins and a couple of draws and they will be safe and there's a lot worse teams in this Division. Funnily enough I don't include Peterborough in that, not just because of last night's result, but also because I thought they played really good football at the Valley earlier this season and were incredibly unlucky to lose.The_President said:I'm gonna take Paul's advice above, and put a monkey on them to be relegated. 500 x 40 = 20 grand. Then, after 5 games, lay it off, just cream the profit - might be a tidy one, if they are 10-1 then i've made a 15k profit - have i got my figures right?
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iv been to millwalls play off final at wembley before only due to a free ticket being given to me and they lost to scunny hahahaha the team are a joke iv got a mate who calls them " the worlds best small club" what the fook does that mean.0
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This may sound daft and all that.
Wasn't last night's game the first Millwall have had at home since the bad publicity from Sky?
Could it be that Millwall are financially damaged by the reluctance of people to share aspects of the current Millwall experience?
Personally I don't think Millwall are the minor club some of their support wan't to think they are, all this 'we are and always have been' stuff, all this 'only have a limited catchment' stuff, 'historically...' is trotted out to justify their level of achievement and support.
We have had periods of dire support too.
I think Millwall could easily be as well supported in numbers as, I dunno, QPR and Fulham, they are in London FFS. I honestly think people are put off going there by the 'pwoper Wall' unwritten rules you're supposed to adhere to. I know there is an attraction to the percieved 'hard' aspect of supporting Millwall, but it puts enough people off to affect attendances.
Many Millwall supporters don't want to attract a broader fanbase, they despise the idea, and they are winning.
The cost of that victory is felt in the money coming in.0 -
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Even if i was offered a free ticket to a spanner play off final, i'm fairly certain I wouldn't go.0
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Sorry, but that seems proper weird to me even if the ticket was free. You could not pay me to sit there and watch that lot in a play off final.palarsehater said:iv been to millwalls play off final at wembley
I could imagine getting behind Bournemouth for the day and do indeed go over there with a mate but never on this earth could I sit there and applaud that lot in particular or most other teams to be honest.
What would you have done if they had won?0 -
I wouldn't go if I was paid.JT said:Even if i was offered a free ticket to a spanner play off final, i'm fairly certain I wouldn't go.
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Disagree. If anything, the sterilisation of the Millwall crowd is keeping people away. The whole experience of home games now is becoming more like a chore. Countless local pubs have closed down so everyone is dispersed over a wider area, the pre & post match experience isn't the same. Inside the ground the atmosphere is wilting for many run of the mill games, the wit & laughter isn't quite there any more.seth plum said:This may sound daft and all that.
Wasn't last night's game the first Millwall have had at home since the bad publicity from Sky?
Could it be that Millwall are financially damaged by the reluctance of people to share aspects of the current Millwall experience?
Personally I don't think Millwall are the minor club some of their support wan't to think they are, all this 'we are and always have been' stuff, all this 'only have a limited catchment' stuff, 'historically...' is trotted out to justify their level of achievement and support.
We have had periods of dire support too.
I think Millwall could easily be as well supported in numbers as, I dunno, QPR and Fulham, they are in London FFS. I honestly think people are put off going there by the 'pwoper Wall' unwritten rules you're supposed to adhere to. I know there is an attraction to the percieved 'hard' aspect of supporting Millwall, but it puts enough people off to affect attendances.
Many Millwall supporters don't want to attract a broader fanbase, they despise the idea, and they are winning.
The cost of that victory is felt in the money coming in.
Coupled with times being hard for many people, cutting down on their credit, saving etc paying £25-27 for a cold Tuesday night against Peterborough doesn't flick peoples swtiches. Football was once an enjoyable expense, it's becoming less enjoyable & more expensive.0 -
We had a few seasons like that, the best cure would be dropping a division and winning a few games.Sparrows Lane Lion said:seth plum said:This may sound daft and all that.
Wasn't last night's game the first Millwall have had at home since the bad publicity from Sky?
Could it be that Millwall are financially damaged by the reluctance of people to share aspects of the current Millwall experience?
Personally I don't think Millwall are the minor club some of their support wan't to think they are, all this 'we are and always have been' stuff, all this 'only have a limited catchment' stuff, 'historically...' is trotted out to justify their level of achievement and support.
We have had periods of dire support too.
I think Millwall could easily be as well supported in numbers as, I dunno, QPR and Fulham, they are in London FFS. I honestly think people are put off going there by the 'pwoper Wall' unwritten rules you're supposed to adhere to. I know there is an attraction to the percieved 'hard' aspect of supporting Millwall, but it puts enough people off to affect attendances.
Many Millwall supporters don't want to attract a broader fanbase, they despise the idea, and they are winning.
The cost of that victory is felt in the money coming in.
Coupled with times being hard for many people, cutting down on their credit, saving etc paying £25-27 for a cold Tuesday night against Peterborough doesn't flick peoples swtiches. Football was once an enjoyable expense, it's becoming less enjoyable & more expensive.0 -
My Millwall supporting uncle came to the 1998 Playoff Final and loved every single minute of it. Then again, I don't know how any supporter wouldn't enjoy a game like that.0
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same hereguinnessaddick said:
I wouldn't go if I was paid.JT said:Even if i was offered a free ticket to a spanner play off final, i'm fairly certain I wouldn't go.
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I would. The referees match fee would come in handy and I'd enjoy award all those penalties to the other side.guinnessaddick said:
I wouldn't go if I was paid.JT said:Even if i was offered a free ticket to a spanner play off final, i'm fairly certain I wouldn't go.
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fortunately they didnt theres a cracking photo of the day im sitting there with a shoot me now look sipping a pint whilst surrounded by loads of millwall with blue and white jester hats0
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Actually, I said the opposite earlier but thinking about it you could pay me to go but it would have to be £1000 upwards, only if I can sit on my hands for 90 mins and you can guarantee they get two men sent off and go behind in the first five minutes.
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I DONT GET IT!!!0
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bloodnut gets it0
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JT gets it.0
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With safety nearly confirmed for us , there really is only one match that really means anything to us left this season , well there was only 2 this season anyway and the only real archenemy and nemesis of our club
We have to win this one and keep that miserable little club below us where they belong
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I bet you do beat them.Sparrows Lane Lion said:
We won't beat Blackburn. & we wouldn't be given 45k for an FA Cup semi final.Brendan_O_Connell said:
Because when you beat Blackburn next month you'll muster up 45,000 to take to Wembley.Sparrows Lane Lion said:We're a small club, why are you constantly astounded by our low attendances?
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I accept your point. However Millwall have been able to get bums on seats in matches despite the sterilisation you describe, the game against us is an example. More people in, more income. If Millwall have the potential for higher attendances, isn't there something they can do to get people in, get people back?Sparrows Lane Lion said:
Disagree. If anything, the sterilisation of the Millwall crowd is keeping people away. The whole experience of home games now is becoming more like a chore. Countless local pubs have closed down so everyone is dispersed over a wider area, the pre & post match experience isn't the same. Inside the ground the atmosphere is wilting for many run of the mill games, the wit & laughter isn't quite there any more.seth plum said:This may sound daft and all that.
Wasn't last night's game the first Millwall have had at home since the bad publicity from Sky?
Could it be that Millwall are financially damaged by the reluctance of people to share aspects of the current Millwall experience?
Personally I don't think Millwall are the minor club some of their support wan't to think they are, all this 'we are and always have been' stuff, all this 'only have a limited catchment' stuff, 'historically...' is trotted out to justify their level of achievement and support.
We have had periods of dire support too.
I think Millwall could easily be as well supported in numbers as, I dunno, QPR and Fulham, they are in London FFS. I honestly think people are put off going there by the 'pwoper Wall' unwritten rules you're supposed to adhere to. I know there is an attraction to the percieved 'hard' aspect of supporting Millwall, but it puts enough people off to affect attendances.
Many Millwall supporters don't want to attract a broader fanbase, they despise the idea, and they are winning.
The cost of that victory is felt in the money coming in.
Coupled with times being hard for many people, cutting down on their credit, saving etc paying £25-27 for a cold Tuesday night against Peterborough doesn't flick peoples swtiches. Football was once an enjoyable expense, it's becoming less enjoyable & more expensive.
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Down to 20-1 on pp. I still thought its worth a fiver. Unfortunately with my betting record this season then its likely to mean they will comfortably finish safe.0
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The first match I looked for this season was against the Spanners…and then Palarse. I wouldn’t want the spanners relegated as I want to play them and experience the same feeling when we beat them in the snow…..If only you could bottle that feeling and sell it along with the Voice of the Valley….Priceless!0
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We get bums on seats now & again for the bigger games, but I don't think we have the support to sustain 15k+ crowds.seth plum said:
I accept your point. However Millwall have been able to get bums on seats in matches despite the sterilisation you describe, the game against us is an example. More people in, more income. If Millwall have the potential for higher attendances, isn't there something they can do to get people in, get people back?Sparrows Lane Lion said:
Disagree. If anything, the sterilisation of the Millwall crowd is keeping people away. The whole experience of home games now is becoming more like a chore. Countless local pubs have closed down so everyone is dispersed over a wider area, the pre & post match experience isn't the same. Inside the ground the atmosphere is wilting for many run of the mill games, the wit & laughter isn't quite there any more.seth plum said:This may sound daft and all that.
Wasn't last night's game the first Millwall have had at home since the bad publicity from Sky?
Could it be that Millwall are financially damaged by the reluctance of people to share aspects of the current Millwall experience?
Personally I don't think Millwall are the minor club some of their support wan't to think they are, all this 'we are and always have been' stuff, all this 'only have a limited catchment' stuff, 'historically...' is trotted out to justify their level of achievement and support.
We have had periods of dire support too.
I think Millwall could easily be as well supported in numbers as, I dunno, QPR and Fulham, they are in London FFS. I honestly think people are put off going there by the 'pwoper Wall' unwritten rules you're supposed to adhere to. I know there is an attraction to the percieved 'hard' aspect of supporting Millwall, but it puts enough people off to affect attendances.
Many Millwall supporters don't want to attract a broader fanbase, they despise the idea, and they are winning.
The cost of that victory is felt in the money coming in.
Coupled with times being hard for many people, cutting down on their credit, saving etc paying £25-27 for a cold Tuesday night against Peterborough doesn't flick peoples swtiches. Football was once an enjoyable expense, it's becoming less enjoyable & more expensive.
I know countless Millwall fans who were regulars at one point in their lives but either lost the bug, had families, work took over, partners, money etc...once you stop it's quite hard to get back into it again. In fact I probably know more who have stopped going or go less often than I do who go nowadays. All for various reasons and none that I could say are easy enough to overcome.
I don't think our marketing team is very good and it could be improved massively, but not sure how much impact it would have. Hire a decent marketing team & pay for advertising, how many fans do you need extra per game to turn a profit?0 -
On of the 66/1 winners Come on Annie was 150/1 on Betfairmasicat said:I'm was on at 33-1. Can be done, last Sunday an old boy put a £1 Yankee costing £11 on in a bookies in Beckenham. At 5pm he came in and collected 27k. If a 6-4 fav in the last race at Ffos Las had won he would have got over 100k. He had 2 x 66-1 winners out of the four horses as well as a 9-2 winner.
Thought I would share that with you.0
