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Unpaid interns & football.

I'm reading today that several clubs in the Premiership are going to be reported to HMRC for breaking employment law in the use of full time but unpaid interns as Performance Analysts.

Quite amazing really given that the minimum wage is less than £13,000 i.e. probably half a weeks wages for most first team players.

Presumably the situation is more prevelant the lower down the leagues one goes which makes me wonder what our own situation may be. Wasn't this the role Pritch was doing before he was given a crack at a pro contract?

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  • I suspect that the clubs have a queue out the door and around the corner of potential unpaid help. I can see why they would choose to take advantage of it.
  • I seem to remember reading that some of the clubs were not only not paying interns but refusing to fund travel and other expenses too. So they would expect these analysts to travel with the team, but they would have to keep the same or longer hours, all paid for by themselves and with no apparent prospects of full time paid employment afterwards.
    This is frankly unacceptable to me, I can understand if it was established up front that expenses only would be paid but the situation as described above is frankly exploitation. Now not all clubs do it that way I am sure, but it still doesn't seem right.
  • I suspect that the clubs have a queue out the door and around the corner of potential unpaid help. I can see why they would choose to take advantage of it.

    Well, one good reason not to is that it appears to be illegal.

    I think there's a difference between providing a young person with some practical experience in their chosen career on a short term or part time basis and exploiting the current situation to your advantage in getting what should be a full time, paid role done for free. Would you be happy being replaced by someone prepared and able to work for free?

    If the clubs are not paying who is picking up their living costs? I suspect it's their parents and the taxpayer through benefits don't you?
  • edited April 2013

    I suspect that the clubs have a queue out the door and around the corner of potential unpaid help. I can see why they would choose to take advantage of it.

    And I'm sure the boys from One Direction have a queue of 15year old girls lining up to throw themselves at them as well. Doesn't make it right if they abuse their position to take advantage of them either.
  • I know it's not just football and Premier League but I really do despair at the greed and willingness that exists to exploit every person for whatever is available. Players and directors of prem clubs spend more on champagne than would be needed to give these people a decent wage.
  • Part of the legacy of that dear old lady they are laying to rest on Wednesday.
  • I know it's not just football and Premier League but I really do despair at the greed and willingness that exists to exploit every person for whatever is available. Players and directors of prem clubs spend more on champagne than would be needed to give these people a decent wage.

    Who will be the first charmer on here to tell you that you would do the same given a chance?
  • edited April 2013

    Part of the legacy of that dear old lady they are laying to rest on Wednesday.

    Cheers for trampelling over my thread about the possibility of clubs and maybe ourselves getting caught up in this.
  • I suspect that the clubs have a queue out the door and around the corner of potential unpaid help. I can see why they would choose to take advantage of it.

    Well, one good reason not to is that it appears to be illegal.

    I think there's a difference between providing a young person with some practical experience in their chosen career on a short term or part time basis and exploiting the current situation to your advantage in getting what should be a full time, paid role done for free. Would you be happy being replaced by someone prepared and able to work for free?

    If the clubs are not paying who is picking up their living costs? I suspect it's their parents and the taxpayer through benefits don't you?
    if you're working more than 16 hours a week and that includes unpaid work then you are unable claim JSA.
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  • Bournemouth, perhaps if you and MeebaumAzanitch are quick, you can remove all trace before the frothing hordes turn up.
  • Part of the legacy of that dear old lady they are laying to rest on Wednesday.

    Cheers for trampelling over my thread about the possibility of clubs and maybe ourselves getting caught up in this.
    Sorry. You are quite right. It was a cheap shot. I apologise unreservedly. I don't think I have recovered from a heavy night.
  • Part of the legacy of that dear old lady they are laying to rest on Wednesday.

    Cheers for trampelling over my thread about the possibility of clubs and maybe ourselves getting caught up in this.
    Sorry. You are quite right. It was a cheap shot. I apologise unreservedly. I don't think I have recovered from a heavy night.
    Fair enough MA.

    Let's focus on the issue rather than personalities.
  • relevant article about reading, that reflects what thenewbie was saying http://www.uksport.gov.uk/jobs/Reading-Football-Club-First-Team-Performance-Analyst-Intern-110413
  • Let's focus on the issue rather than personalities.

    Indeed, do a day's work...get a day's wages and I can't help but think that the clubs are looking to take advantage of a fan and save some money.

    Football clubs are notorioualy bad payers if you aren't on the playing staff. A few years back a friend with a stack of marketing qualifications was interviewed and offered a job as Wimbledon's marketing manager - he turned it down after realising that taking the job meant not just a cut in wages but going back to first job after Uni type wages.
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