So a football fan calls a black player a monkey and he is banned for life---- Baker tweets a pic showing the Royal baby as a monkey and he gets defended ?
Very strange parameters placed on this "racism" thingy
It has been explained multiple times, I just don’t think some of you want to listen.
So a football fan calls a black player a monkey and he is banned for life---- Baker tweets a pic showing the Royal baby as a monkey and he gets defended ?
Very strange parameters placed on this "racism" thingy
It has been explained multiple times, I just don’t think some of you want to listen.
He chose the picture, he added the caption and he posted the tweet. He did not have to do any of these three things but he did all of them, Goodness knows why but just goes to show he is not as clever as he and his blinkered followers think he is. Looking forward to not having to re tune my radio from 5Live to Radio2 until 10am now on a Saturday morning.
I call my grand daughter a cheeky monkey when shes playing up, her neighbour and best friend is black and I call her a cheeky monkey too when she plays up. Am I being racist then.
So a football fan calls a black player a monkey and he is banned for life---- Baker tweets a pic showing the Royal baby as a monkey and he gets defended ?
Very strange parameters placed on this "racism" thingy
It has been explained multiple times, I just don’t think some of you want to listen.
The BBC’s decision is spineless and pathetic.
Imagine the chinless invertebrate BBC senior staff who would of had to of sat in front of a load of chinless invertebrate politicians on a pointless money gulping commons select committee over this, IF the chinless invertebrate BBC senior staff had not pulled the plug on the gobby Spanner sloth?
So a football fan calls a black player a monkey and he is banned for life---- Baker tweets a pic showing the Royal baby as a monkey and he gets defended ?
Very strange parameters placed on this "racism" thingy
It has been explained multiple times, I just don’t think some of you want to listen.
The BBC’s decision is spineless and pathetic.
The bloke works for the BBC. A corporation currently scared shittless of its non gender orientated shadow.
I like Baker for the record. But he must have known there was a very good chance of this outcome when he hit send.
As I've said previously, anyone who follows him on Twitter will know he starts most evenings off with a different bevvy each night. Can only assume he was 3 sheets to the wind when he sent that.
People in 2019 love being offended for some reason. I'm pretty liberal and will call out racism etc. but this is another level. No wonder people call my generation snowflakes.
So a football fan calls a black player a monkey and he is banned for life---- Baker tweets a pic showing the Royal baby as a monkey and he gets defended ?
Very strange parameters placed on this "racism" thingy
It has been explained multiple times, I just don’t think some of you want to listen.
The BBC’s decision is spineless and pathetic.
The bloke works for the BBC. A corporation currently scared shittless of its non gender orientated shadow.
I like Baker for the record. But the bloke must have known there was a very good chance of this outcome when he hit send.
As I've said previously, anyone who follows him on Twitter will know he starts most evenings off with a different bevvy each night. Can only assume he was 3 sheets to the wind when he sent that.
Must have started early yesterday then, it was tweeted in the afternoon.
I call my grand daughter a cheeky monkey when shes playing up, her neighbour and best friend is black and I call her a cheeky monkey too when she plays up. Am I being racist then.
no but if you posted a picture of a white girl playing with a chimp and captioned it "my granddaughter playing with her best friend" you would be
So a football fan calls a black player a monkey and he is banned for life---- Baker tweets a pic showing the Royal baby as a monkey and he gets defended ?
Very strange parameters placed on this "racism" thingy
It has been explained multiple times, I just don’t think some of you want to listen.
Regardless of his intent, if he genuinely didn't realise that many people were going to think that tweet was racist then he's not half as clever as he thinks he is.
I call my grand daughter a cheeky monkey when shes playing up, her neighbour and best friend is black and I call her a cheeky monkey too when she plays up. Am I being racist then.
In 2019 yes you would be seen as. Doesn't mean you are though.
The question is whether he was being racist or is just being seen as racist.
IMO I get the joke he says he was making, and he shouldn't have had to have thought anything about the mothers origins based upon the joke he was making as to do so would actually be changing a joke and treating someone different because of their race. Therefore changing the joke would have been a racist choice.
Problem is he didn't do it for William and Kate's kids... so you do have to question his authenticity about it not being race related.
For these reasons I have no idea if it was racist or not, but I'd certainly not have sacked him without determining the truth first.
So a football fan calls a black player a monkey and he is banned for life---- Baker tweets a pic showing the Royal baby as a monkey and he gets defended ?
Very strange parameters placed on this "racism" thingy
It has been explained multiple times, I just don’t think some of you want to listen.
The BBC’s decision is spineless and pathetic.
he must have known there was a very good chance of this outcome when he hit send.
No. That’s exactly the point. He didn’t see the connection. He saw NO connotations. That’s why he had no problem hitting send.
Danny finds monkeys dressed as people inherently funny. He saw it as an image representing posh people. He’s explained that.
It’s amazing to me how you’re happy to wholeheartedly believe ambiguous subtext, but entirely reject explanation. Why? Why is that? Why do you want to believe the negative and throw away the alternative?
So a football fan calls a black player a monkey and he is banned for life---- Baker tweets a pic showing the Royal baby as a monkey and he gets defended ?
Very strange parameters placed on this "racism" thingy
It has been explained multiple times, I just don’t think some of you want to listen.
The BBC’s decision is spineless and pathetic.
he must have known there was a very good chance of this outcome when he hit send.
No. That’s exactly the point. He didn’t see the connection. He saw NO connotations. That’s why he had no problem hitting send.
Danny finds monkeys dressed as people inherently funny. He saw it as an image representing posh people. He’s explained that.
It’s amazing to me how you’re happy to wholeheartedly believe ambiguous subtext, but entirely reject explanation. Why? Why is that? Why do you want to believe the negative and throw away the alternative?
I guess it depends on whether you believe that Danny Baker is sooooooooo naive not think that sending a tweet/photo about a mixed-race baby being likened to a primate would be controversial (at the very least). For me, he is an arrogant, pompous and dislike-able character. He should know better, took the risk and now is paying a price. If I did that within my NHS organisation I would be gone faster than my feet could carry me.
So a football fan calls a black player a monkey and he is banned for life---- Baker tweets a pic showing the Royal baby as a monkey and he gets defended ?
Very strange parameters placed on this "racism" thingy
It has been explained multiple times, I just don’t think some of you want to listen.
The BBC’s decision is spineless and pathetic.
he must have known there was a very good chance of this outcome when he hit send.
No. That’s exactly the point. He didn’t see the connection. He saw NO connotations. That’s why he had no problem hitting send.
Danny finds monkeys dressed as people inherently funny. He saw it as an image representing posh people. He’s explained that.
It’s amazing to me how you’re happy to wholeheartedly believe ambiguous subtext, but entirely reject explanation. Why? Why is that? Why do you want to believe the negative and throw away the alternative?
Sorry but Danny Baker is intelligent and aware enough of the ridiculous society we live in, that tweeting a picture of a chimp as the baby of a well documented mixed race mother will be called out by some as racist. If he didn't realise that he's an idiot.
He chose the picture, he added the caption and he posted the tweet. He did not have to do any of these three things but he did all of them, Goodness knows why but just goes to show he is not as clever as he and his blinkered followers think he is. Looking forward to not having to re tune my radio from 5Live to Radio2 until 10am now on a Saturday morning.
Words fail me. Honestly. You may not like the guy but his radio show was pure class. And really funny. He coaxed the people who phoned in to tell stories about the obscure topics he had raised to tell some really funny tales. As I said earlier, I would often be laughing out loud at some of the stuff going on.
Dislike him as a person if your politics are that way inclined but to say he was a rubbish radio host is just unbelievable
Stupid picture to put up - only he knows why he did it.
Apparently some on here do, too.
Agree that it was a monumentally idiotic thing to do.
True but people on here arent Celebrities who have thousands of followers on Social Media - Doesnt make it right either way but being in the public eye more means you need to be more careful about whatever you say
Maybe their self censorship is actually making things worse? The more you apply censorship the more outrage is caused by assumptions of intent by people that have nothing better to do than create social justice warrior-esque posts to attack other people for posting things that the SJW's see as racist...
If you see racism in something that genuinely is not intended as racist are you actually the racist for doing so?
So a football fan calls a black player a monkey and he is banned for life---- Baker tweets a pic showing the Royal baby as a monkey and he gets defended ?
Very strange parameters placed on this "racism" thingy
It has been explained multiple times, I just don’t think some of you want to listen.
The BBC’s decision is spineless and pathetic.
he must have known there was a very good chance of this outcome when he hit send.
No. That’s exactly the point. He didn’t see the connection. He saw NO connotations. That’s why he had no problem hitting send.
Danny finds monkeys dressed as people inherently funny. He saw it as an image representing posh people. He’s explained that.
It’s amazing to me how you’re happy to wholeheartedly believe ambiguous subtext, but entirely reject explanation. Why? Why is that? Why do you want to believe the negative and throw away the alternative?
This, and typical of the Beige Broadcasting Company to hang him out, we really have some spineless people running things.
So a football fan calls a black player a monkey and he is banned for life---- Baker tweets a pic showing the Royal baby as a monkey and he gets defended ?
Very strange parameters placed on this "racism" thingy
It has been explained multiple times, I just don’t think some of you want to listen.
The BBC’s decision is spineless and pathetic.
he must have known there was a very good chance of this outcome when he hit send.
No. That’s exactly the point. He didn’t see the connection. He saw NO connotations. That’s why he had no problem hitting send.
Danny finds monkeys dressed as people inherently funny. He saw it as an image representing posh people. He’s explained that.
It’s amazing to me how you’re happy to wholeheartedly believe ambiguous subtext, but entirely reject explanation. Why? Why is that? Why do you want to believe the negative and throw away the alternative?
Mate. If you look hard enough you can find an innocent explanation for anything. I don't think he's racist. I've listened to him for years and saw him live last year. This tweet was stupidly Ill judged. The connotations were immediate. He's certainly not stupid. But come on. With the amount of followers he's got surely he should have had a little pause for thought before churning that out
Can I just check that all those offended by this are Royalists?
Neither a royalist nor offended but still amazed that a supposedly clever guy couldn't see what was so blindingly obvious about that picture and that caption.
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Has it? What was the joke he was going for?
He did not have to do any of these three things but he did all of them, Goodness knows why but just goes to show he is not as clever as he and his blinkered followers think he is.
Looking forward to not having to re tune my radio from 5Live to Radio2 until 10am now on a Saturday morning.
I like Baker for the record. But he must have known there was a very good chance of this outcome when he hit send.
As I've said previously, anyone who follows him on Twitter will know he starts most evenings off with a different bevvy each night. Can only assume he was 3 sheets to the wind when he sent that.
IMO I get the joke he says he was making, and he shouldn't have had to have thought anything about the mothers origins based upon the joke he was making as to do so would actually be changing a joke and treating someone different because of their race. Therefore changing the joke would have been a racist choice.
Problem is he didn't do it for William and Kate's kids... so you do have to question his authenticity about it not being race related.
For these reasons I have no idea if it was racist or not, but I'd certainly not have sacked him without determining the truth first.
Danny finds monkeys dressed as people inherently funny. He saw it as an image representing posh people. He’s explained that.
It’s amazing to me how you’re happy to wholeheartedly believe ambiguous subtext, but entirely reject explanation. Why? Why is that? Why do you want to believe the negative and throw away the alternative?
Dislike him as a person if your politics are that way inclined but to say he was a rubbish radio host is just unbelievable
If you see racism in something that genuinely is not intended as racist are you actually the racist for doing so?
In fact it could be argued that his lack of cognitive connection of any racial implication demonstrates this very point.
In retrospect not a good idea as evidenced by the ensuing shitstorm but no racially motivated malice in it surely.
I don't think he's racist. I've listened to him for years and saw him live last year.
This tweet was stupidly Ill judged. The connotations were immediate.
He's certainly not stupid. But come on. With the amount of followers he's got surely he should have had a little pause for thought before churning that out
What an idiot.