How does a flock of birds cause a f*cking great big plane to catch fire?
If you hit enough of them they can really damage the engine fan blade. Once one blade goes they hit against each other like a domino effect and the engine fails.
Amazing to think that in 2013 a plane that must cost tens of millions to build can be brought down by a few pigeons!
You might like to try watching Aircrash Investigation, there's a lot smaller things which can bring down a plane than a bird.
Why Chickens? Not likely to see many of those flying into the engine.
I think that's the reasoning behind it. Chickens are bigger than the average bird that is likely to get hit by a plane, and will cause more damage, so it makes sense to use them for testing (the thinking being that if you can make the planes as safe against chickens, then pigeons will barely even register a blip). I think the main problem with birdstrike is flocks of birds rather than individuals - maybe they're not chucking enough chickens into the engines at once during testing?
In all seriousness, birdstrike is one of those random hazards of flying that you can't ever eliminate - just try and minimise the risk as much as you can
Could they not put an umbrella type structure in front of the engine, far enough away to allow air in but close enough to deflect flocks of birds?
How does a flock of birds cause a f*cking great big plane to catch fire?
If you hit enough of them they can really damage the engine fan blade. Once one blade goes they hit against each other like a domino effect and the engine fails.
Amazing to think that in 2013 a plane that must cost tens of millions to build can be brought down by a few pigeons!
You might like to try watching Aircrash Investigation, there's a lot smaller things which can bring down a plane than a bird.
Why Chickens? Not likely to see many of those flying into the engine.
I think that's the reasoning behind it. Chickens are bigger than the average bird that is likely to get hit by a plane, and will cause more damage, so it makes sense to use them for testing (the thinking being that if you can make the planes as safe against chickens, then pigeons will barely even register a blip). I think the main problem with birdstrike is flocks of birds rather than individuals - maybe they're not chucking enough chickens into the engines at once during testing?
In all seriousness, birdstrike is one of those random hazards of flying that you can't ever eliminate - just try and minimise the risk as much as you can
Could they not put an umbrella type structure in front of the engine, far enough away to allow air in but close enough to deflect flocks of birds?
Yeah c'mon Leroy sort it out!
Yeah Leroy I had big hopes for you on aviation safety.
How does a flock of birds cause a f*cking great big plane to catch fire?
If you hit enough of them they can really damage the engine fan blade. Once one blade goes they hit against each other like a domino effect and the engine fails.
Didn't that american who landed in the Hudson hit a flock of birds? What a hero.
I think the hudson incident was an entire flock of geese.
Bird strikes in engines are common enough that planes are designed so that if there is a bird strike the plane just flies back around and lands. Obviously not very nice for the passengers but its probably one of the easiest situstions for pilots to deal with
How does a flock of birds cause a f*cking great big plane to catch fire?
If you hit enough of them they can really damage the engine fan blade. Once one blade goes they hit against each other like a domino effect and the engine fails.
Amazing to think that in 2013 a plane that must cost tens of millions to build can be brought down by a few pigeons!
You might like to try watching Aircrash Investigation, there's a lot smaller things which can bring down a plane than a bird.
Why Chickens? Not likely to see many of those flying into the engine.
Because the second hand sell-on market to KFC is a good one. Next!
How does a flock of birds cause a f*cking great big plane to catch fire?
If you hit enough of them they can really damage the engine fan blade. Once one blade goes they hit against each other like a domino effect and the engine fails.
Amazing to think that in 2013 a plane that must cost tens of millions to build can be brought down by a few pigeons!
You might like to try watching Aircrash Investigation, there's a lot smaller things which can bring down a plane than a bird.
Why Chickens? Not likely to see many of those flying into the engine.
I think that's the reasoning behind it. Chickens are bigger than the average bird that is likely to get hit by a plane, and will cause more damage, so it makes sense to use them for testing (the thinking being that if you can make the planes as safe against chickens, then pigeons will barely even register a blip). I think the main problem with birdstrike is flocks of birds rather than individuals - maybe they're not chucking enough chickens into the engines at once during testing?
In all seriousness, birdstrike is one of those random hazards of flying that you can't ever eliminate - just try and minimise the risk as much as you can
Could they not put an umbrella type structure in front of the engine, far enough away to allow air in but close enough to deflect flocks of birds?
Yeah c'mon Leroy sort it out!
Come on be realistic. Who would crawl out and open the umbrella?
How does a flock of birds cause a f*cking great big plane to catch fire?
If you hit enough of them they can really damage the engine fan blade. Once one blade goes they hit against each other like a domino effect and the engine fails.
Amazing to think that in 2013 a plane that must cost tens of millions to build can be brought down by a few pigeons!
You might like to try watching Aircrash Investigation, there's a lot smaller things which can bring down a plane than a bird.
Why Chickens? Not likely to see many of those flying into the engine.
I think that's the reasoning behind it. Chickens are bigger than the average bird that is likely to get hit by a plane, and will cause more damage, so it makes sense to use them for testing (the thinking being that if you can make the planes as safe against chickens, then pigeons will barely even register a blip). I think the main problem with birdstrike is flocks of birds rather than individuals - maybe they're not chucking enough chickens into the engines at once during testing?
In all seriousness, birdstrike is one of those random hazards of flying that you can't ever eliminate - just try and minimise the risk as much as you can
Could they not put an umbrella type structure in front of the engine, far enough away to allow air in but close enough to deflect flocks of birds?
Yeah c'mon Leroy sort it out!
Come on be realistic. Who would crawl out and open the umbrella?
Oh joy, flying back into London from Kuala Lumpur tomorrow.
You'll be alright if you're on an a380? Engine turbines are built with material that won't break should it encounter a birdstrike
Why are not all engines built with that material?
Simple answer to that is the cost.
A single blade which is installed on the rolls royce engines on an a380 are approx the cost of a "luxury car" each. Bear in mind they use 4 engines and all. Thats a lot of wedge, even for an airline.
Oh joy, flying back into London from Kuala Lumpur tomorrow.
You'll be alright if you're on an a380? Engine turbines are built with material that won't break should it encounter a birdstrike
Why are not all engines built with that material?
Simple answer to that is the cost.
A single blade which is installed on the rolls royce engines on an a380 are approx the cost of a "luxury car" each. Bear in mind they use 4 engines and all. Thats a lot of wedge, even for an airline.
If cost is the only reason, god forbid one comes down over London killing thousands... Can imagine the outcry when they say the good blades were to expensive.
RAF fighter jets have escorted a Pakistan International Airlines aircraft from Manchester Airport to Stansted Airport.
The airline has confirmed it is for security reasons. There are understood to be 297 passengers on board.
The plane was heading west towards Manchester when it was suddenly re-routed near York and headed back out to the North Sea, before travelling south to Stansted.
It is believed to have now landed at the airport.
An Essex Police spokeswoman said: "An incident has occurred on an aircraft. Police and partners are responding."
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Fantastic that no one was hurt.
Engine turbines are built with material that won't break should it encounter a birdstrike
Bird strikes in engines are common enough that planes are designed so that if there is a bird strike the plane just flies back around and lands. Obviously not very nice for the passengers but its probably one of the easiest situstions for pilots to deal with
According to passengers, there were loud popping noises on take off. I thought that was normal.
A single blade which is installed on the rolls royce engines on an a380 are approx the cost of a "luxury car" each.
Bear in mind they use 4 engines and all.
Thats a lot of wedge, even for an airline.
from sky news
RAF fighter jets have escorted a Pakistan International Airlines aircraft from Manchester Airport to Stansted Airport.
The airline has confirmed it is for security reasons. There are understood to be 297 passengers on board.
The plane was heading west towards Manchester when it was suddenly re-routed near York and headed back out to the North Sea, before travelling south to Stansted.
It is believed to have now landed at the airport.
An Essex Police spokeswoman said: "An incident has occurred on an aircraft. Police and partners are responding."
Could they not put an umbrella type structure in front of the engine, far enough away to allow air in but close enough to deflect flocks of birds?
777's can suck up a full luggage trolley from the ground...this actually happened, so an umbrella would stand no chance.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/8045432.stm