Alternative ways to invest money.

BIG_ROB

Anyone know of any other ways to invest money, other than the usual (property/banks etc)? A friend of mine back in Blighty dabbles in classic/antique shotguns and rifles and he tells me he hasn't lost any money on the ones he's bought and then sold so far and looking at the prices, it seems pretty water tight an investment to me. I know this is a bit of a specialised field, but wondered if anyone knew if any other alternative ways to beat the bank?

(I've not got a pot to p*ss in so this isn't an advice question, just interested to see)

DaveMehmet

Sell a kidney

BlackForestReds

Gold?

clb74

wine

BIG_ROB

Kidney - could sell one if me nakered ones to the animal feed industry

Gold - Me cupboards are bare....

cafcbrown

Classic cars?

cafcfan

You can't go far wrong by following the advice of the world's best investor: Warren Buffett.
Here's his quotes: businessinsider.com/warren-buffett-quotes-2012-8?op=1
My favourites are:
"I try to buy stock in businesses that are so wonderful that an idiot can run them. Because sooner or later, one will."

"Wall Street is the only place that people ride to in a Rolls-Royce to get advice from those who take the subway."

[Deleted User]

Wine in bond. Chinese and Russians pushing the prices up

Bordeaux will hold value and gain compared to other commodities

cafcfan

calydon_road said:

Wine in bond. Chinese and Russians pushing the prices up

Bordeaux will hold value and gain compared to other commodities

But in a trade war re solar panels, China are threatening to retaliate by investigating EU wine dumping, so there may be heavy tariffs imposed that will put an end to that little number!

mickc

What about antique p*** pots

[Deleted User]

Sure sure

But that doesn't stop the haves collecting. I'm not talking about the man on the street or government legislation . I am talking about the rich and super rich who will spend for the kudos of the brand no matter what international tariff disputes arise.

A case of Petrus is about as rock solid as anything In Europe in terms of holding REAL value

cafcfan

I know, but even the good stuff - and that's the only investment grade product from particular vintages - still has a "drink by" date after which it's worth less than a bottle of Sarson's Vinegar. So, as investor, you've either got to know when to sell by or trust someone to tell you when. There have been too many wine scams, fake bottles, fake labels with the better vintage, etc, etc to make this a viable or sensible investment for anybody but an absolute expert. And that's setting aside the fact that it's only worth doing if you are buying en primeur. Then when it's bottled someone like Robert Parker comes along and says it's not all that anyway and you're stuffed.
My own personal rule on investing is that as soon as your average punter is being urged to buy something, it's time to bail out.

Davo55

create a broad investment portfolio with the help of a skilled financial advisor, covering equities, bonds etc. Returns depend on what level of risk you are ok to accept but not unusual to get a return of about 10% after fees last year on a medium risk portfolio. That sure as hell beats the 2% kind of figures on the high street.

Athletico Charlton

The important thing to do is anticiapte what to buy before the hoardes follow. If it is possible and I had the money I would be buying shares in property companies with exposure to Columbia residential properties, Phillipines Real Estate and Nigerian Real Estate, 3 up and coming parts of the world.

I would also take an exposure in the Indonesian stock market and sell shortly after the election.

Athletico Charlton

Alternatively go onto Freecycle website, get loads of bits gratis then head to a boot sale or Ebay.

Addickforlife

Wine is excellent.

Fanny Fanackapan

Addickforlife said:

Wine is excellent.

Seconded !

ValleyGary

Wine or art

Yorkshireaddick

Peer to peer lending such as Funding Circle or Zopa

maybe_baby

mickc said:

What about antique p*** pots

That's no way to talk about Selhurst Park.

Mendonca In Asdas

Rob I've no idea or not whether classic shotguns are a good investment or not, only advice I'd say is only invest money you can afford to lose ( pretty obvious really) other thing is if it did go pear shaped would / could it sour your friendship with your pal , if it could I wouldn't touch it with a bargepole.

RodneyCharltonTrotta

Yorkshireaddick said:

Peer to peer lending such as Funding Circle or Zopa

Posted something the other day about this.

You have £20 grand and bank offering you less than 1% interest a year for saving with them.

I need to borrow £5 grand but banks want to charge me 20% a year to borrow it for 2 years.

Cut out the banks= you lend me the £5 grand I need out of your £10 grand and charge me 6% a year for it.

I get a much better rate of borrowing and you get a better rate of lending than you would from a bank over the same period (assuming interest rates dont fly up to 6+% in the next 2 years)

BIG_ROB

ValleyGary said:

Wine or art

Arts a good one

Cardinal Sin

Top quality watches are pretty good if looked after with box and papers eg Rolexes doubled in ten years and very strong second-hand market.

maybe_baby

Cardinal Sin said:

Top quality watches are pretty good if looked after with box and papers eg Rolexes doubled in ten years and very strong second-hand market.

All very well if you have the time.

clb74

RodneyCharltonTrotta said:

Yorkshireaddick said:

Peer to peer lending such as Funding Circle or Zopa

Posted something the other day about this.

You have £20 grand and bank offering you less than 1% interest a year for saving with them.

I need to borrow £5 grand but banks want to charge me 20% a year to borrow it for 2 years.

Cut out the banks= you lend me the £5 grand I need out of your £10 grand and charge me 6% a year for it.

I get a much better rate of borrowing and you get a better rate of lending than you would from a bank over the same period (assuming interest rates dont fly up to 6+% in the next 2 years)

dont bother with the 20%
took loan with barclays 23.9%
after a year paid loan off early 100 pound month repayments had paid about £2.50 off

bc_addick

The people who invest in solar PV continue to get fantastic returns on their original investment. Even people who are investing now can expect first year returns of 6-10% and that percentage increases each year. If you want to future proof yourself against huge energy price hikes and benefit from the income too then there is NOTHING like it. PM me if anyone wants to look seriously at getting it.

Mendonca In Asdas

Why can't they make solar powered panels that look like proper roof tiles or slate, solar panels on a roof look a bit of an eyesore if you ask me.

bc_addick

Mendonca In Asdas said:

Why can't they make solar powered panels that look like proper roof tiles or slate, solar panels on a roof look a bit of an eyesore if you ask me.

They are already on the market MIA but cost significantly more. I now use only the plain black panels which blend in better than the silver framed versions. The tiles will come down in price but I reckon it will take five years. New builds may start using them more.

nth_london_addick

Bugle mate invest in bugle if your the middle man the risks are low and profits high between 40 and 44k a kilo cost with a return of 55-70 k

Seems common sense investment to me


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ShootersHillGuru

nth london addick said:

Bugle mate invest in bugle if your the middle man the risks are low and profits high between 40 and 44k a kilo cost with a return of 55-70 k

Seems common sense investment to me


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Bit better since it was done up but The White Swan is a better bet if you ask me.