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Ray Wilkins drink driving

Former England and Chelsea footballer Ray Wilkins was too drunk to stand when he was stopped for driving his car erratically, a court has been told.

Mr Wilkins, 56, slurred his words and leaned on his Jaguar for support when he was pulled over near his Cobham home in May 2012, magistrates heard.

North Surrey Magistrates' Court also heard he fell asleep in a police patrol car and later swore at officers.

Mr Wilkins denies a charge of drinking and driving.

Tests taken at a police station showed he was almost three times the legal limit.

The former England midfielder was arrested on 7 May last year after his car was seen "weaving" down the road at about 01:45 BST, the court heard.

It was alleged Mr Wilkins's car had "lurched" forward and then hit a traffic island.

PC Nicholas Skidmore told the court: "There was a strong smell of intoxicating liquor in the vehicle and around him.

"When he got out of the vehicle, he couldn't stand up properly," he said.

"He had to lean against the car."

The officer said he handcuffed the Sky Sports football pundit, who then fell asleep in his unmarked police car.

The court was told Mr Wilkins was then taken to a local police station where he was told he could not make a call to his wife until he had provided two breath samples.

CCTV played to the court showed him apparently trying to complete the tests.

Paul Lund for the prosecution said Mr Wilkins would challenge the result of the breath test.

He said: "Mr Wilkins says that he can't have drunk enough to produce that high reading.

"At the end of the day, the defence is relying on Mr Wilkins' assertion that he hadn't drunk enough.

"He would say that, wouldn't he?"



How can he have the cheek to challenge this?!

His defence is basically that there is no way he was 3 times the limit as he hadn't drunk that much...........................despite smashing his car into an island in the middle of the road, not being able to stand up properly and falling asleep in the back of the police car.
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  • guinnessaddick
    guinnessaddick Posts: 28,617
    It was alleged Mr Wilkins's car had "lurched" forward and then hit a traffic island.

    That's his defence, everyone know he only went sideways.
  • WSS
    WSS Posts: 25,070
    My word
  • When he was struggling to stand up and had to lean on his car, surely one of the coppers told him to stay on his feet
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 51,991
    Young man.
  • Viewfinder
    Viewfinder Posts: 4,910
    When we speak of a manager having "lost the dressing room" isn't that a way of saying he was too pissed to find it? Shurely shome mishtake!
  • Curb_It
    Curb_It Posts: 21,220

    When he was struggling to stand up and had to lean on his car, surely one of the coppers told him to stay on his feet

    ha, good one.

    Why doesnt he just hold his hands up and get on with it. Ridiculous to challenge.

  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,220
    Typical Millwall
  • shirty5
    shirty5 Posts: 19,221
    Smashing Ralph
  • cafctom
    cafctom Posts: 11,365
    Quite funny reading his rants at the policeman, as he strikes me as probably the politest/most innocent pundit there is in the game.
  • Don't any of these ageing sports people or celebraties and such like, have the card of a cab company in their wallets or purses. Or don't they have the intelligence to organise a designated driver or indeed have a chauffeur on their payroll (I'm sure they can be tax deductable). No they would much rather face ridicule etc in the media by employing the services of a slick lawyer to try to get them off on an implausable excuse or technicality! Rant over.
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  • AddickUpNorth
    AddickUpNorth Posts: 8,325
    Selfish ****.
  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 26,126
    Ray...stay on your feet.
  • iaitch
    iaitch Posts: 10,225
    Policeman had an appropriate name Skidmore.
  • Exiled_Addick
    Exiled_Addick Posts: 17,168
    Curb_It said:

    When he was struggling to stand up and had to lean on his car, surely one of the coppers told him to stay on his feet

    ha, good one.

    Why doesnt he just hold his hands up and get on with it. Ridiculous to challenge.

    You have to say that's top drawer wasting of tax payers money.
  • Viewfinder
    Viewfinder Posts: 4,910
    iaitch said:

    Policeman had an appropriate name Skidmore.

    Brilliant!

  • Stig
    Stig Posts: 29,021
    shirty5 said:

    Smashing Ralph

    You know when you've been arseholed! ;-)
  • Riviera
    Riviera Posts: 8,167
    If he's as innocent as he claims why did the fool feel the need to turn up in court in a dark three piece suit? Hardly his normal attire?
  • Addickted
    Addickted Posts: 19,456
    Why has this taken 14 months to come to Court?

    So that's 14 months he's still been legally driving awaiting a possible conviction for drink driving.
  • Lincsaddick
    Lincsaddick Posts: 32,348
    He's a 'celebrity' darling (albeit a z class one) .. and they just do not live in the real world, rules for thee and me do not apply to them
  • JiMMy 85
    JiMMy 85 Posts: 10,193
    Riviera said:

    If he's as innocent as he claims why did the fool feel the need to turn up in court in a dark three piece suit? Hardly his normal attire?

    Even Columbo needs more evidence than that.
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  • Lincsaddick
    Lincsaddick Posts: 32,348
    GUILTY .. 'you shall be taken to a place of execution and hanged by the neck until you are dead' ..
  • Absurdistan
    Absurdistan Posts: 8,024
    Give him community service.............might cause him to move abroad.
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,844
    If only he'd stuck to drinking Tango...
  • cafcfan
    cafcfan Posts: 11,198
    Aah, now we know why he was fighting the case! He has previous. Banned for two years in March. So another ban would be very lengthy - turns out three years - and motor insurance would probably become almost impossible to obtain. He was desperately hoping something technical would go wrong with the prosecution presumably?
  • newyorkaddick
    newyorkaddick Posts: 3,052
    So was he driving whilst banned as well as whilst drunk? Surely that justifies a prison sentence or have I missed something?
  • cafcfan
    cafcfan Posts: 11,198

    So was he driving whilst banned as well as whilst drunk? Surely that justifies a prison sentence or have I missed something?

    Here's the details:
    He was on bail for this offence when he was stopped again in Tongham in March this year.
    This time a roadside breath test found he had 129 microgrammes of alcohol in his blood per 100 mililitres of breath - nearly four times over the legal drink drive limit.
    But he failed to provide a second specimen at the station and was banned for two years and fined £2,000 at Guildford Magistrate’s Court earlier this year.

    So, he got done first for the second offence, while on bail for the first one - weird.
  • Lincsaddick
    Lincsaddick Posts: 32,348
    cafcfan said:

    So was he driving whilst banned as well as whilst drunk? Surely that justifies a prison sentence or have I missed something?

    Here's the details:
    He was on bail for this offence when he was stopped again in Tongham in March this year.
    This time a roadside breath test found he had 129 microgrammes of alcohol in his blood per 100 mililitres of breath - nearly four times over the legal drink drive limit.
    But he failed to provide a second specimen at the station and was banned for two years and fined £2,000 at Guildford Magistrate’s Court earlier this year.

    So, he got done first for the second offence, while on bail for the first one - weird.
    errr.. does this means that when his first offence finally comes to court again, because he wasn't banned at the time of this second offence, even though ostensibly he is guilty of twice driving whilst well over the limit, he will escape, if not scot free, he will not face the same dire penalties that would apply if he had been banned when he was caught the second time ?
  • Absurdistan
    Absurdistan Posts: 8,024
    disgraceful decision.
  • Bedsaddick
    Bedsaddick Posts: 24,735
    It probably means that when the last conviction goes to court he will get a short custodial sentence.
  • Rizzo
    Rizzo Posts: 6,431
    My word!