Holloway signs too many players

Scoham

Stephen Dobbie and Florian Marange signed for Palace in the summer but have been left out their 25 man squad. Marange only signed 2/3 weeks ago.

http://www.newsshopper.co.uk/sport/palace/10654284._/

Owen Garvan's not happy either...



http://www.thescore.ie/garvan-tweet-hot-water-holloway-palace-1069276-Sep2013/

Addickted4life

Dobbie on loan would be a pretty good signing.

nth_london_addick

Garvan aint a bad player

Henry Irving

Would take either.

LuckyReds

Judging by that tweet things could be about to implode?

Absurdistan

Shocking squad, surprised Dobbie has been left out.

ISawLeaburnScore

Panicked after the poor start. How they can have players like Garvan and Dobbie outside of the 25 is beyond me. Whats the point in paying their wages? I thought Palace were doing it on the cheap and the sensible way?

bigstemarra

Blimey, what a mess. Signing players then not even putting them in the squad, followed by open rebellion in the ranks!

Top entertainment.

Chris_from_Sidcup

Am i the only one who doesn't see the problem here? They'll just loan out the players not in the 25.

Not surprised that Wilbraham didn't make it though, he is fecking useless. He was poor in league one.

WSS

Just a ruthless streak from Holloway which is probably needed

kentaddick

Holloway did the same at Blackpool I recall. Thus why he got fined for fielding a "weak 11" from players that were left out of his 25 in jan

killerandflash

I've not been impressed with Holloway's dealings during the summer. When he took Blackpool up he kept the same squad together, with a few signings, giving the players who earned promotion a chance.
At Palace he seems to have been signing players left right and centre, giving people 2 and 3 year contracts in July/August then not wanting them in September. Rather than buying quality he's bought quantity.

They will have to loan some of these players out, but I can't imagine that the loaning club will pay much of their wages!

J BLOCK

WSS said:

Just a ruthless streak from Holloway which is probably needed

Not really ruthless when he signed them this summer and has now left them out, smacks of desperation and a manager out of his depth

Rob62

kentaddick said:

Holloway did the same at Blackpool I recall. Thus why he got fined for fielding a "weak 11" from players that were left out of his 25 in jan

No, at Blackpool he was much more restrained. The fine was a joke as all of the players were in his 25

Friend Or Defoe

J BLOCK said:

WSS said:

Just a ruthless streak from Holloway which is probably needed

Not really ruthless when he signed them this summer and has now left them out, smacks of desperation and a manager out of his depth

THIS.

And people ask why we laugh at them when we're in the mess we're in?

Henry Irving

Just think they know they are likely to drop and are spending with that in mind. Good championship side they will have.

Not knocking it as they will be very strong next year if they don't overspend which seems the case.

And with the likes of Sunderland, stoke and newcastle looking shakey they could still stay up.

killerandflash

Henry Irving said:

Just think they know they are likely to drop and are spending with that in mind. Good championship side they will have.

Not knocking it as they will be very strong next year if they don't overspend which seems the case.

And with the likes of Sunderland, stoke and newcastle looking shakey they could still stay up.

I'm not sure buying so many players is the best way of creating a good 2014/15 championship squad. I can't imagine team spirit at the club is anywhere near as good as it was a few months ago

Richard J

Holloway is following the Pardew formula of buying so many players in the hope that some will come off.

The only time I have seen such a mass change around work out well was when SCP did it in L1 two years ago.However,the likes of Wiggins,Green,Hughes,Taylor,Hollands and Stephens were top players at the level we were competing in.None of the Palace signings are established top prem players.

I agree with Henry that this looks to be a good CCC squad not one designed to stay in the Prem although stranger things have happened especially as others have said with so many 'established'Premiership clubs looking quite weak.

In terms of us Owen Garvan would be a great signing.He is exactly the type of creative player we need.Palace's downturn in form coincided with the Irishman's injuries last season.Likewise their late season surge was assisted by his return.

I'm amazed he didn't make the 25.His tweet looks ominous for Holloway if the Eagles struggle this season.How can he sign someone 3 weeks ago and then not include him in the squad?

Chris_from_Sidcup

Henry Irving said:

And with the likes of Sunderland, stoke and newcastle looking shakey they could still stay up.

Stoke have won 2 out of 3 so far and would've got a draw in the other if Walters had scored his pen

cafctom

How on earth has Paddy McCarthy made it to the Premier League.

oohaahmortimer

Friend Or Defoe said:

J BLOCK said:

WSS said:

Just a ruthless streak from Holloway which is probably needed

Not really ruthless when he signed them this summer and has now left them out, smacks of desperation and a manager out of his depth

THIS.

And people ask why we laugh at them when we're in the mess we're in?

i'd much prefer to swap situations at present

oohaahmortimer

cafctom said:

How on earth has Paddy McCarthy made it to the Premier League.

beyond unbelievable ...

oohaahmortimer

2006/7 the last time we finished above them geeks and that was when we finished 2nd bottom of the prem

could be years before we finish above them again ........ shameful


repeat forever
at least it's not milwall

Scoham

Henry Irving said:

Just think they know they are likely to drop and are spending with that in mind. Good championship side they will have.

Not knocking it as they will be very strong next year if they don't overspend which seems the case.

And with the likes of Sunderland, stoke and newcastle looking shakey they could still stay up.

But why sign a senior player mid August and then not include him in the squad? A 27 year old from Bordeaux will at least be on a few thousand a week.

Or Dobbie, signs a 2 year deal and then gets left out. You don't sign extra players in case you get relegated.

They now can't be added to the squad until January.

North Lower Neil

Garvan would be a decent loan signing.

Rizzo

Hasn't Holloway got a bit of previous with Dobbie? He brings him in, gets promoted then bins him.

Henry Irving

Scoham said:

Henry Irving said:

Just think they know they are likely to drop and are spending with that in mind. Good championship side they will have.

Not knocking it as they will be very strong next year if they don't overspend which seems the case.

And with the likes of Sunderland, stoke and newcastle looking shakey they could still stay up.

But why sign a senior player mid August and then not include him in the squad? A 27 year old from Bordeaux will at least be on a few thousand a week.

Or Dobbie, signs a 2 year deal and then gets left out. You don't sign extra players in case you get relegated.

They now can't be added to the squad until January.

Agree, Holloway isn't my favourite manager and perhaps he was like a kid in a sweet shop as the window closed. Still think some of us are trying too hard to find things to laugh at Palace about when right now we should be keeping our heads down and worrying about our own problems.

Chris_from_Sidcup said:

Henry Irving said:

And with the likes of Sunderland, stoke and newcastle looking shakey they could still stay up.

Stoke have won 2 out of 3 so far and would've got a draw in the other if Walters had scored his pen

My mistake. Hull then. Palace could still make history and survive for more than a season in the Premiership though. I hope not but it is possible.

LargeAddick

bet another couple are relieved the Bentner and Johnson deals collapsed.

cafctom

"Agree, Holloway isn't my favourite manager and perhaps he was like a kid in a sweet shop as the window closed. Still think some of us are trying too hard to find things to laugh at Palace about when right now we should be keeping our heads down and worrying about our own problems."

Why? Doesn't really matter how good or bad Palace are doing, they are still considered Charlton's main rival amongst the majority of our support (Yes, more so than Millwall).

Its only natural fans will want to laugh at them and slag them off when necessary. That is what football fans generally do. Anything that works against those Surrey, ultra, banner waving, cringeworthy Nigels needs to be highlighted and highlighted bloody well!

DamoNorthStand

cafctom said:

"Agree, Holloway isn't my favourite manager and perhaps he was like a kid in a sweet shop as the window closed. Still think some of us are trying too hard to find things to laugh at Palace about when right now we should be keeping our heads down and worrying about our own problems."

Why? Doesn't really matter how good or bad Palace are doing, they are still considered Charlton's main rival amongst the majority of our support (Yes, more so than Millwall).

Its only natural fans will want to laugh at them and slag them off when necessary. That is what football fans generally do. Anything that works against those Surrey, ultra, banner waving, cringeworthy Nigels needs to be highlighted and highlighted bloody well!

Can of worms ready to be opened.

But Millwall are our traditional rivals and always will be.

Plaaayer

Amongst the majority of our support? Really?