Went to my local club "Beckenham" a few years back. Kent leagues. Arrived at HT and they wanted 8 quid to get in. Went home and watched from my garden instead.
Do clubs realise that if they lower prices they get more people in and therefore (can) make more money and improve atmosphere?
I'm not sure that that is true, maybe initially and then when the novelty wears off I believe you'll just end up with the same hardcore in the grounds. IMO football attendances have peaked and no matter what's on offer it's gonna be hard to increase our home support without premiership footy. We came down from prem and averaged 18k of home fans , I doubt we'd achieve that for a whole season unless we lead the Championship for the entire season. Palace will have a bigger home attendance average than us when we're both next in the Championship due to the Premiership newbies hanging on and the general apathy in our support
Do clubs realise that if they lower prices they get more people in and therefore (can) make more money and improve atmosphere?
I'm not sure that that is true, maybe initially and then when the novelty wears off I believe you'll just end up with the same hardcore in the grounds. IMO football attendances have peaked and no matter what's on offer it's gonna be hard to increase our home support without premiership footy. We came down from prem and averaged 18k of home fans , I doubt we'd achieve that for a whole season unless we lead the Championship for the entire season. Palace will have a bigger home attendance average than us when we're both next in the Championship due to the Premiership newbies hanging on and the general apathy in our support
I don't think that the 18,000 is unachievable with winning good home form and of course a number of that 18,000 would be comps, so that would need to be factored out. However, a sell out Valley is an unlikely dream, unless of course we get to the Prem and even then after a seasons novelty, at extortionate prices, I wonder how long that would last.
Oh the irony of it...thing is we all know it will be a sell out, but there must be a finite figure before it comes back to bite them on the arse...greedy gits...🤦♂️
Oh the irony of it...thing is we all know it will be a sell out, but there must be a finite figure before it comes back to bite them on the arse...greedy gits...🤦♂️
Been going on for too many years mate, a new breed of fans. I am guessing that most Premiership clubs sell a vast % as season tickets at okay prices and the minimal general sale f*** the others.
I actually think football is getting to a point where it's not worth it. Most of my friends who would like to tag along don't like the pricing, it gets worse the further up the pyramid you go.
If I had a small family, would I rather take my partner and two children to see a game of football for approx £300+ including travel, or put that money towards a holiday and use some of the money for a family day out. Only one winner imo. That's every weekend as well, £300 quid to watch West Ham potentially.
I don't blame anyone who stays at home or watches online. When you consider petrol, train tickets, admission, concessions, hotels, and time off work potentially, football is a very, very expensive hobby.
I am thinking about dodging Wigan already. Late kick-off, my cousins can't go, 90 quid approx petrol, 22-25 match ticket presumably. Plus the time consumed of a 10 hour round drive.
When I could instead go to my aunts, watch it on the TV, have a bit of grub, and my car will save some miles and my wallet will be better off for it.
Bit of a ramble but it's quite disheartening seeing football becoming increasingly more expensive when it's a big part of British culture.
I actually think football is getting to a point where it's not worth it. Most of my friends who would like to tag along don't like the pricing, it gets worse the further up the pyramid you go.
If I had a small family, would I rather take my partner and two children to see a game of football for approx £300+ including travel, or put that money towards a holiday and use some of the money for a family day out. Only one winner imo. That's every weekend as well, £300 quid to watch West Ham potentially.
I don't blame anyone who stays at home or watches online. When you consider petrol, train tickets, admission, concessions, hotels, and time off work potentially, football is a very, very expensive hobby.
I am thinking about dodging Wigan already. Late kick-off, my cousins can't go, 90 quid approx petrol, 22-25 match ticket presumably. Plus the time consumed of a 10 hour round drive.
When I could instead go to my aunts, watch it on the TV, have a bit of grub, and my car will save some miles and my wallet will be better off for it.
Bit of a ramble but it's quite disheartening seeing football becoming increasingly more expensive when it's a big part of British culture.
To be fair.... the difference between a £10-£15 match ticket for Wigan and a £22-25 ticket is a small difference in the context you just set out.
Going to football matches is expensive....but factors beyond match tickets are at work. Transport cost and convenience are also big factors, eh!
The decision not to attend that many games has been taken out of my hands now that I live in Yorkshire but even before my move north I felt that should Charlton ever get back to The PL that I couldn’t justify PL prices to watch us.
The match ticket price is the least expensive part generally of going to games. More away than home. The time factor I accept you swallow with aways but home games it has to be considered. Evening games are out now due to parking restrictions, ULEZ is another cost, the train means I get home well after midnight which writes me off for work the next day
I should be the target market though, no children just me and my friends its anyone taking kids that has my sympathy, the cost of feeding them etc makes if a very expensive hobby.
I actually think football is getting to a point where it's not worth it. Most of my friends who would like to tag along don't like the pricing, it gets worse the further up the pyramid you go.
If I had a small family, would I rather take my partner and two children to see a game of football for approx £300+ including travel, or put that money towards a holiday and use some of the money for a family day out. Only one winner imo. That's every weekend as well, £300 quid to watch West Ham potentially.
I don't blame anyone who stays at home or watches online. When you consider petrol, train tickets, admission, concessions, hotels, and time off work potentially, football is a very, very expensive hobby.
I am thinking about dodging Wigan already. Late kick-off, my cousins can't go, 90 quid approx petrol, 22-25 match ticket presumably. Plus the time consumed of a 10 hour round drive.
When I could instead go to my aunts, watch it on the TV, have a bit of grub, and my car will save some miles and my wallet will be better off for it.
Bit of a ramble but it's quite disheartening seeing football becoming increasingly more expensive when it's a big part of British culture.
To be fair.... the difference between a £10-£15 match ticket for Wigan and a £22-25 ticket is a small difference in the context you just set out.
Going to football matches is expensive....but factors beyond match tickets are at work. Transport cost and convenience are also big factors, eh!
That would still be a tenner saved each game and it would add up.
My point was mainly aimed at the Premier league pricing of West Ham though, and what's becoming more common as a 'couch fan'. When you weigh up the time and money spent, it's not a very rewarding hobby. The social aspect is great but you could get it a lot cheaper elsewhere. They're essentially exploiting people who are die hard fans, isn't right.
My bit about Wigan was a bit separate, I don't think £22 or thereabouts is terrible, just highlighting that as it's on TV, and that it will finish around 8pm getting me home between 1-2am, it makes me more tempted to swerve it. I would still rather go than not, but I can see why people would swerve it.
I actually think football is getting to a point where it's not worth it. Most of my friends who would like to tag along don't like the pricing, it gets worse the further up the pyramid you go.
If I had a small family, would I rather take my partner and two children to see a game of football for approx £300+ including travel, or put that money towards a holiday and use some of the money for a family day out. Only one winner imo. That's every weekend as well, £300 quid to watch West Ham potentially.
I don't blame anyone who stays at home or watches online. When you consider petrol, train tickets, admission, concessions, hotels, and time off work potentially, football is a very, very expensive hobby.
I am thinking about dodging Wigan already. Late kick-off, my cousins can't go, 90 quid approx petrol, 22-25 match ticket presumably. Plus the time consumed of a 10 hour round drive.
When I could instead go to my aunts, watch it on the TV, have a bit of grub, and my car will save some miles and my wallet will be better off for it.
Bit of a ramble but it's quite disheartening seeing football becoming increasingly more expensive when it's a big part of British culture.
To be fair.... the difference between a £10-£15 match ticket for Wigan and a £22-25 ticket is a small difference in the context you just set out.
Going to football matches is expensive....but factors beyond match tickets are at work. Transport cost and convenience are also big factors, eh!
That would still be a tenner saved each game and it would add up.
My point was mainly aimed at the Premier league pricing of West Ham though, and what's becoming more common as a 'couch fan'. When you weigh up the time and money spent, it's not a very rewarding hobby. The social aspect is great but you could get it a lot cheaper elsewhere. They're essentially exploiting people who are die hard fans, isn't right.
My bit about Wigan was a bit separate, I don't think £22 or thereabouts is terrible, just highlighting that as it's on TV, and that it will finish around 8pm getting me home between 1-2am, it makes me more tempted to swerve it. I would still rather go than not, but I can see why people would swerve it.
The kick off time is the piss take, 3pm and thats a very doable but dull place to go and be back in time to order a kebab and have a few beers before falling asleep on the sofa
The match ticket price is the least expensive part generally of going to games. More away than home. The time factor I accept you swallow with aways but home games it has to be considered. Evening games are out now due to parking restrictions, ULEZ is another cost, the train means I get home well after midnight which writes me off for work the next day
I should be the target market though, no children just me and my friends its anyone taking kids that has my sympathy, the cost of feeding them etc makes if a very expensive hobby.
I don't understand why you say evening games are out due to parking restrictions? If you are presumably talking about Charlton home games the parking in many places north of Charlton Road is limited to 2 hours but expires at 18.30. Therefore you can park most places after 16.30 (obviously not on yellow lines). It's easier to park for evening games than ever before.
The match ticket price is the least expensive part generally of going to games. More away than home. The time factor I accept you swallow with aways but home games it has to be considered. Evening games are out now due to parking restrictions, ULEZ is another cost, the train means I get home well after midnight which writes me off for work the next day
I should be the target market though, no children just me and my friends its anyone taking kids that has my sympathy, the cost of feeding them etc makes if a very expensive hobby.
I don't understand why you say evening games are out due to parking restrictions? If you are presumably talking about Charlton home games the parking in many places north of Charlton Road is limited to 2 hours but expires at 18.30. Therefore you can park most places after 16.30 (obviously not on yellow lines). It's easier to park for evening games than ever before.
Being more specific, they are out as I would need to take my van home, defecate and maybe eat then take my car.
Football is like anything else. If people don't pay, prices will côme down. If people don't go, TV audiences will decrease. Things would go back to the ( inflation adjusted) prices ( and players' wages) of yesteryear. It's simple consumer democracy.
The match ticket price is the least expensive part generally of going to games. More away than home. The time factor I accept you swallow with aways but home games it has to be considered. Evening games are out now due to parking restrictions, ULEZ is another cost, the train means I get home well after midnight which writes me off for work the next day
I should be the target market though, no children just me and my friends its anyone taking kids that has my sympathy, the cost of feeding them etc makes if a very expensive hobby.
I don't understand why you say evening games are out due to parking restrictions? If you are presumably talking about Charlton home games the parking in many places north of Charlton Road is limited to 2 hours but expires at 18.30. Therefore you can park most places after 16.30 (obviously not on yellow lines). It's easier to park for evening games than ever before.
Being more specific, they are out as I would need to take my van home, defecate and maybe eat then take my car.
I can't see that your reasoning has anything to do with parking restrictions.
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IMO football attendances have peaked and no matter what's on offer it's gonna be hard to increase our home support without premiership footy.
We came down from prem and averaged 18k of home fans , I doubt we'd achieve that for a whole season unless we lead the Championship for the entire season.
Palace will have a bigger home attendance average than us when we're both next in the Championship due to the Premiership newbies hanging on and the general apathy in our support
Expect the price of a toot to be raised accordingly.
Cringe.
I am guessing that most Premiership clubs sell a vast % as season tickets at okay prices and the minimal general sale f*** the others.
I used to take three kids to football but £200 - £460 for a match - not including travel and treats ... that would rule me out.
Should be all one needs to know
I actually think football is getting to a point where it's not worth it. Most of my friends who would like to tag along don't like the pricing, it gets worse the further up the pyramid you go.
If I had a small family, would I rather take my partner and two children to see a game of football for approx £300+ including travel, or put that money towards a holiday and use some of the money for a family day out. Only one winner imo. That's every weekend as well, £300 quid to watch West Ham potentially.
I don't blame anyone who stays at home or watches online. When you consider petrol, train tickets, admission, concessions, hotels, and time off work potentially, football is a very, very expensive hobby.
I am thinking about dodging Wigan already. Late kick-off, my cousins can't go, 90 quid approx petrol, 22-25 match ticket presumably. Plus the time consumed of a 10 hour round drive.
When I could instead go to my aunts, watch it on the TV, have a bit of grub, and my car will save some miles and my wallet will be better off for it.
Bit of a ramble but it's quite disheartening seeing football becoming increasingly more expensive when it's a big part of British culture.
Going to football matches is expensive....but factors beyond match tickets are at work. Transport cost and convenience are also big factors, eh!
I should be the target market though, no children just me and my friends its anyone taking kids that has my sympathy, the cost of feeding them etc makes if a very expensive hobby.
My point was mainly aimed at the Premier league pricing of West Ham though, and what's becoming more common as a 'couch fan'. When you weigh up the time and money spent, it's not a very rewarding hobby. The social aspect is great but you could get it a lot cheaper elsewhere. They're essentially exploiting people who are die hard fans, isn't right.
My bit about Wigan was a bit separate, I don't think £22 or thereabouts is terrible, just highlighting that as it's on TV, and that it will finish around 8pm getting me home between 1-2am, it makes me more tempted to swerve it.
I would still rather go than not, but I can see why people would swerve it.
If you are presumably talking about Charlton home games the parking in many places north of Charlton Road is limited to 2 hours but expires at 18.30.
Therefore you can park most places after 16.30 (obviously not on yellow lines).
It's easier to park for evening games than ever before.
If people don't go, TV audiences will decrease.
Things would go back to the ( inflation adjusted) prices ( and players' wages) of yesteryear.
It's simple consumer democracy.