Tory Conference
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They should be moving forward, not back. Not what their supporters want I know.0
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I'll give this thread five minutes.....0
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I have just retired to the bunker!Brendan_O_Connell said:I'll give this thread five minutes.....
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Thoughts kept to myself.....................0
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This line should have been included in the 'Best CL phrases' thread.Brendan_O_Connell said:I'll give this thread five minutes.....
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To Messrs Clegg, Osborne and Milliband.....the word is CREATE, not "crate".0
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Its a bit like footballers spouting off on Twitter & Facebook they are "hurting", "feeling the fans pain" and "up for it next week"!pettgra said:Just seen a clip of the late Maggie giving one of her speeches from the 80's and there was dear old David wiping a tear from his eye. In this hard and cynical world isn't it refreshing to see someone behave so sensitively and caring. Mind you the quick sideways glance to the camera was a bit of a giveaway. Puke.
That would never happen at Charlton though......................oh, hold on a minute.0 -
Did this really happen?pettgra said:Just seen a clip of the late Maggie giving one of her speeches from the 80's and there was dear old David wiping a tear from his eye. In this hard and cynical world isn't it refreshing to see someone behave so sensitively and caring. Mind you the quick sideways glance to the camera was a bit of a giveaway. Puke.
Is there a clip, I'm not doubting you BTW, but the manipulation by the media and by politicians is always fascinating viewed from my pleb perspective so to speak.
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I want to throw up .0
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There's barely a fagpaper thickness of difference between any of them. All self serving, chancers. Just my opinion.0
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Love it. Got it all on record so I can watch it all again. Love the Conservative Party and Maggie was an all time fav. Dave, Ossie, that Govie boy he's a lark and IF we are lucky and he has taken time off from winding up lefties a rousing speach from HRH Boris.
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Seth I could only find reference to it rather than the clip. Please feel free to doubt as sometimes we see what we want to see and that includes me. In this case I reckon he is bang to rights unless he had grit in his eye!seth plum said:
Did this really happen?pettgra said:Just seen a clip of the late Maggie giving one of her speeches from the 80's and there was dear old David wiping a tear from his eye. In this hard and cynical world isn't it refreshing to see someone behave so sensitively and caring. Mind you the quick sideways glance to the camera was a bit of a giveaway. Puke.
Is there a clip, I'm not doubting you BTW, but the manipulation by the media and by politicians is always fascinating viewed from my pleb perspective so to speak.
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There is no such thing as society.
Simply toffs and plebs.
There is a fantastically underrated War film directed by Richard Attenborough of the Joan Littlewood creation 'Oh What a Lovely War'. Watching that as a young man it was as much about the class divide as it was the horrors of WW1 and it had an impact on me.
It seems what makes the Tories happy is if the rest of us 'know our place', judging by the success of Downton Abbey, which I confess to never having watched beyond two minutes, it is an attitude that never seems to have gone away.
Any lifers got their own coat of arms?0 -
labour
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all about as useful and trustworthy as big tone and the gay bloke from gimme gimme gimme0 -
And one that appears to be well borne out by the factsShootersHillGuru said:There's barely a fagpaper thickness of difference between any of them. All self serving, chancers. Just my opinion.
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And yet people just put up with it without a complaint.ShootersHillGuru said:There's barely a fagpaper thickness of difference between any of them. All self serving, chancers. Just my opinion.
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What do you suggest they do?0
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That film was a load of left wing twaddle. Those English hating luvvies must of been queuing round the block to jump on that bandwagon. Enjoyed the music though.seth plum said:There is no such thing as society.
Simply toffs and plebs.
There is a fantastically underrated War film directed by Richard Attenborough of the Joan Littlewood creation 'Oh What a Lovely War'. Watching that as a young man it was as much about the class divide as it was the horrors of WW1 and it had an impact on me.
It seems what makes the Tories happy is if the rest of us 'know our place', judging by the success of Downton Abbey, which I confess to never having watched beyond two minutes, it is an attitude that never seems to have gone away.
Any lifers got their own coat of arms?
As for Joan Littlewood, she features in the Harry H Corbett biography. Nest of traitorous vipers that lot. Norvern socialist acting collective my arse.
Downton is just ridiculous though...0 -
There is plenty of difference between the parties. One of the problems any government has is how to best appease those that don't support it - as Morsi in Egypt found to his cost recently.
What holds back our government are those that are still obsessed with the old class war mindset; people who fixate on how to re-distribute wealth instead of trying to create it.0 -
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More independents/smaller parties. More people actually voting based on policy and not just a labour/conservative choice.MuttleyCAFC said:What do you suggest they do?
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You probably need to change the voting system to make that happen - the current one makes it hard for smaller parties. If say you had true proportional representation, you would know that whoever you voted for your vote would count for something.0
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It's not in Labour or the Conservatives interest to put forward such a change in the voting system. Lib Dems would love it though (well, would have until they lost all their voters.)MuttleyCAFC said:You probably need to change the voting system to make that happen - the current one makes it hard for smaller parties. If say you had true proportional representation, you would know that whoever you voted for your vote would count for something.
The one time the Lib Dems tried to change to a (very slightly) fairer voting system, the public shut it down because they don't like change.0 -
Vote UKIP, that is all
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Err. . . . . . nah.DiscoCAFC said:Vote UKIP, that is all
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they'll soon need a new name when the Scots go for divorce ..I rather fancy PIE as an acronym .. the Party (for) Independent England .. PIE .. has a nice ring to it, we'll all get a slice .. but dinna hold yer breath as is said north of Hadrians' Wall .. VOTE FOR PIE .. you know it makes senseDiscoCAFC said:Vote UKIP, that is all
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No thanks. It's a shame when the only alternatives are even worse than the main parties.DiscoCAFC said:Vote UKIP, that is all
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Good post Harry Hutchens
I stopped coming on this site for 4 months this year after getting sucked into a politics debate around the time Margaret Thatcher passed away so must promise myself not to get reeled in again, especially as by and large I am fairly apathetic.
Just have to accept we are all different.
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Isn't Downton a documentary then?soapy_jones said:
That film was a load of left wing twaddle. Those English hating luvvies must of been queuing round the block to jump on that bandwagon. Enjoyed the music though.seth plum said:There is no such thing as society.
Simply toffs and plebs.
There is a fantastically underrated War film directed by Richard Attenborough of the Joan Littlewood creation 'Oh What a Lovely War'. Watching that as a young man it was as much about the class divide as it was the horrors of WW1 and it had an impact on me.
It seems what makes the Tories happy is if the rest of us 'know our place', judging by the success of Downton Abbey, which I confess to never having watched beyond two minutes, it is an attitude that never seems to have gone away.
Any lifers got their own coat of arms?
As for Joan Littlewood, she features in the Harry H Corbett biography. Nest of traitorous vipers that lot. Norvern socialist acting collective my arse.
Downton is just ridiculous though...
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Wales and N Ireland will still be part of it. Pie is a good name though lolLincsaddick said:
they'll soon need a new name when the Scots go for divorce ..I rather fancy PIE as an acronym .. the Party (for) Independent England .. PIE .. has a nice ring to it, we'll all get a slice .. but dinna hold yer breath as is said north of Hadrians' Wall .. VOTE FOR PIE .. you know it makes senseDiscoCAFC said:Vote UKIP, that is all
I doubt Scotland will vote for independence anyway going by the latest opinion polls.0
