There is unlucky and then there is..............................(although you wonder about these bitcoins)
A Newport man has been searching a landfill site in south Wales hoping to find a computer hard drive he threw away which is now worth over £4m.
James Howells's hard drive contains 7,500 bitcoins - which is a virtual form of currency for use online.
It had sat in a drawer for years and he had forgotten it contained the bitcoins, which he obtained in 2009 for almost nothing, when he threw it out.
But this week, a single bitcoin's value hit $1,000 (£613) for the first time.
It means Mr Howells's collection is now worth $7.5m (£4.6m).
A few years ago Mr Howells, who works in IT, had dismantled his computer after spilling a drink on it.
"I stored a couple of parts away like the hard drive, and the rest of the bits and pieces which were still working I sold for spares," he told BBC Radio Wales.
"I kept the hard drive in a drawer in my office for three years without a second thought - totally forgot about bitcoin all together. I had been distracted by family life and moving house.
Bitcoin is often referred to as a new kind of currency.
But it may be best to think of its units being virtual tokens rather than physical coins or notes.
However, like all currencies its value is determined by how much people are willing to exchange it for.
There are currently about 11 million bitcoins in existence.
To receive a bitcoin a user must have a bitcoin address - a string of 27-34 letters and numbers - which acts as a kind of virtual postbox to and from which the bitcoins are sent.
Since there is no registry of these addresses, people can use them to protect their anonymity when making a transaction.
These addresses are in turn stored in bitcoin wallets which are used to manage savings.
They operate like privately run bank accounts - with the proviso that if the data is lost, so are the bitcoins owned.
"Fast forward to 2013 which is when I had a clearout of my old IT equipment - I hadn't used this drive for over three years, I believed I'd taken everything off it... so it got thrown in the bin."
Mr Howells later realised what was left on the hard drive.
He added: "I had been hearing a few stories of a chap from Norway who had bought a number of coins for a very low price and had sold them for a high price and that's when I got back into checking the price and seeing what I'd done.
"When I found out what the price was, the penny dropped and I realised the coins I have 'mined' were on the drive I had thrown away.
"There was not a lot I could do."
Mr Howells checked all of his back up files but could not locate the coins so went to the landfill site in south Wales.
"When I went to the tip the manager took me up to the current landfill site and when I saw it - it's about the size of a football field - my first thought was 'no chance'," he said.
"The manager explained that things that were sent to landfill three or four months ago could be three to five feet deep.
"He confirmed my worst fears when he said that.
"He did mention that when people were investigating for evidence, they turn up with 15 to 20 people in full protective gear with diggers and dogs as well.
"The truth is I haven't got the funds or ability to make that happen at the moment without a definite pay cheque at the end of it."
World's first
In a letter to the US Senate committee, the FBI said that it recognised virtual currencies offered "legitimate financial services" but added they could be "exploited by malicious actors".
In October, the world's first bitcoin ATM opened in Vancouver, Canada. The machine allows users to exchange bitcoins for cash and vice-versa.
The virtual currency has also been quickly adopted in China, where one exchange - BTC China - is said to be the most active globally.
Bitcoin's use in China has been attributed to it being an effective way of reliably getting money out of the country.
Various bitcoin exchanges have been set up around the world, with MTGox - one of the virtual currency's major exchanges - being the most prominent.
Mr Howells added: "I still believe in bitcoin. I believe its value is going to go much, much higher and it's still in its early days.
"As soon as access to bitcoin is opened up to the general public I think a lot more people will be using it, hence the price will increase further."
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Without sounding like two sheds, I've made a few quid on litecoins.
Risky investment but the potential returns are huge.
James Howells is fighting to secure permission from Newport’s city council to dig up the landfill and find the hard drive using a high-tech multimillion-dollar plan.
If Howells wins over the city council, his audacious plan would be bankrolled by a pair of Swiss and German venture capitalists, Hanspeter Jaberg and Karl Wendeborn. The duo stands to make more than $50 million if the bitcoins are successfully recovered.
“It’s obviously a needle in the haystack, and it’s a very, very high-risk investment,” Jaberg told Insider.
In addition to paying off his investors, Howells would reportedly keep about 30% of the Bitcoin, give 30% to workers who helped recover it and give about $60 in bitcoin to each resident of Newport.
https://nypost.com/2022/07/25/man-who-threw-out-175m-in-bitcoin-wants-robot-dogs-to-help-dig-it-up/Meanwhile retired council tip worker Dai Evans continues to jet between his New York loft apartment and his luxury Swiss Chalet in Verbier. He said, "Life was very good to me at the tip, haven't even touched the pension pot yet "
But realistically trying to find something that was binned a decade ago is going to take months/years. Plus of course even if they do find it, it might be damaged.
How sick would you be though, knowing you chucked away 175m?!!
What an amazing story though. It would mentally consume any person.
Took out original investment and a small profit out a while back. Now just playing the waiting game in hope of some much bigger money. Probably around 600% up on original investment as it stands.
So chaps what are the big tips?
Saudi money is based on oil, Chinese money is based on the effort of their manufacturing workforce.
Cryptocurrency is supposedly based on mathematical stuff.
Really it is based on gullibility and hope and faith.
As a free gift to all lifers I give you this non fungicide token:
1+2=3
The best gullibility in financial history.
One bit coin now is about 70000 dollars. It was less than half of this when I bought some last year.
Did you know?:
1. You can make purchases in retail outlets in some places in the Middle East like Dubai using bitcoin.
2. In average sized towns in Argentina people walk into a bit coin exchange shop and change their money into bit coin. People with lower salaries do this whilst others get paid in US dollars. People rightly have more faith in bitcoin than in the peso.
3. The government of El Salvador is buying one bitcoin a day at the moment. Even the government has more faith in it than their own currency!!!
Cryptocurrency is now not much different to national currencies. You don’t see any real money even at The Valley now. Gradually faith in national currencies is diminishing and faith in cyptos is increasing.
The thing to buy now (this week) if you want to bet on a quick rise is Etherium. If you want a long term investment then it is ATOM. It’s one of the less volatile cryptocurrencies but without going into the whys and wherefores will see a good slow rise until the end of 2025. I just bought a little today.
For example ‘faith’ in the Riyal is backed by loads of oil.
A bloke in a balaclava told me nothing could possibly go wrong.