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Yohann Thuram (zombie thread)
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And all the evidence was there from supporters of other clubs within his stable was that this is exactly what he does.flyingkiwiDK said:
I didnt explain myself very well. What I meant was that RD seems to be dictating which players come in with SCP having very little say in the matter.East_Stand_Loopy said:
???????????flyingkiwiDK said:I worry about the effect it would have on the rest of the team if we were to drop Alnwick to make way for Yohann. Dressing room morale would take a nose dive.
Slightly concerned that RD appears to be calling the shots right now.
Of course he's calling the shots! Who do you think should be?
Why would Charlton be any different?
This seems to be how he works. It has worked pretty well at Standard Liege, so it has a chance of working at Charlton.
I repeat, get real people!0 -
???LargeAddick said:As he has come from Standard we may only be making a small contribution to his wages, maybe none at all.
What's yours is ours and all that.
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Please stop telling people to get real.East_Stand_Loopy said:
And all the evidence was there from supporters of other clubs within his stable was that this is exactly what he does.flyingkiwiDK said:
I didnt explain myself very well. What I meant was that RD seems to be dictating which players come in with SCP having very little say in the matter.East_Stand_Loopy said:
???????????flyingkiwiDK said:I worry about the effect it would have on the rest of the team if we were to drop Alnwick to make way for Yohann. Dressing room morale would take a nose dive.
Slightly concerned that RD appears to be calling the shots right now.
Of course he's calling the shots! Who do you think should be?
Why would Charlton be any different?
This seems to be how he works. It has worked pretty well at Standard Liege, so it has a chance of working at Charlton.
I repeat, get real people!
The fans have every right to question the decision making behind this loan and if this is the way it's gonna go.
I agree with you that it's worked at ST Liege, the table doesn't lie, however it's a risky game to play, especially when you have such a popular manager as CP.2 -
ThisValleyGary said:
Please stop telling people to get real.East_Stand_Loopy said:
And all the evidence was there from supporters of other clubs within his stable was that this is exactly what he does.flyingkiwiDK said:
I didnt explain myself very well. What I meant was that RD seems to be dictating which players come in with SCP having very little say in the matter.East_Stand_Loopy said:
???????????flyingkiwiDK said:I worry about the effect it would have on the rest of the team if we were to drop Alnwick to make way for Yohann. Dressing room morale would take a nose dive.
Slightly concerned that RD appears to be calling the shots right now.
Of course he's calling the shots! Who do you think should be?
Why would Charlton be any different?
This seems to be how he works. It has worked pretty well at Standard Liege, so it has a chance of working at Charlton.
I repeat, get real people!
The fans have every right to question the decision making behind this loan and if this is the way it's gonna go.
I agree with you that it's worked at ST Liege, the table doesn't lie, however it's a risky game to play, especially when you have such a popular manager as CP.0 -
To all the doom and gloomers,
Fear not. We will shove Thuram up top with Yann.0 -
What exactly is CP going to actually do? Quit on principle? That will solve all the problems at once!ValleyGary said:
And you think CP will put up with that for how long??Kap10 said:
Not sure RD is going to be that bothered to be honest and if he is calling the shots now I think we'll have to get used to it. RD is not going to be a benevolent paternal owner allowing his managers do what they like.ValleyGary said:I can't see CP being to happy about all this
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(Breathes huge sigh)
Please stop telling people to get real.East_Stand_Loopy said:
And all the evidence was there from supporters of other clubs within his stable was that this is exactly what he does.flyingkiwiDK said:
I didnt explain myself very well. What I meant was that RD seems to be dictating which players come in with SCP having very little say in the matter.East_Stand_Loopy said:
???????????flyingkiwiDK said:I worry about the effect it would have on the rest of the team if we were to drop Alnwick to make way for Yohann. Dressing room morale would take a nose dive.
Slightly concerned that RD appears to be calling the shots right now.
Of course he's calling the shots! Who do you think should be?
Why would Charlton be any different?
This seems to be how he works. It has worked pretty well at Standard Liege, so it has a chance of working at Charlton.
I repeat, get real people!
The fans have every right to question the decision making behind this loan and if this is the way it's gonna go.
I agree with you that it's worked at ST Liege, the table doesn't lie, however it's a risky game to play, especially when you have such a popular manager as CP.
Do you honestly think a Belgian half billionaire gives a damn about supporters questioning his decisions?
He has a business model. He employs it throughout his empire. ( Note: one of the players it was rumoured to be coming to us, has just signed on loan for his new Spanish club.)
I am sure that the business model he employs takes no account of the football club manager. He did not hesitate to get rid of the previous Standard Liege manager, and replace him with someone who nobody had heard of.
I have no better model. If I did, I'd be richer than M. Duchalet!
It seems that we have 2 choices. 1) Chew or finger nails, enjoy the ride, and see where RD takes us. Or 2) Pay him enough money that he is happy to sell to you.
I'm sorry, I don't have £25m plus in my bank account that I can spare.
You MAY just have to put up with a lot of disappointments. Or you could just wait to see if the football improves, and see if we climb up the table, and maybe get promotion in the next couple of seasons?
I support Charlton. Whichever owner, manager, or players are on the pitch.
I say, embrace the change, and see where it takes us.8 -
However long CP wants to keep his job, so could be tomorrow could be 12 months. But from everything we have heard RD is not some hands off owner.ValleyGary said:
And you think CP will put up with that for how long??Kap10 said:
Not sure RD is going to be that bothered to be honest and if he is calling the shots now I think we'll have to get used to it. RD is not going to be a benevolent paternal owner allowing his managers do what they like.ValleyGary said:I can't see CP being to happy about all this
He who pays the piper calls the tune.
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I don't get the negativity and why people assume this isn't a Powell signing.
I like Alnwick but this has been a problem position for some time in my opinion so if it improves the squad then go for it.
Now for a striker please2 -
(Breathes huge sigh)East_Stand_Loopy said:
Please stop telling people to get real.East_Stand_Loopy said:
And all the evidence was there from supporters of other clubs within his stable was that this is exactly what he does.flyingkiwiDK said:
I didnt explain myself very well. What I meant was that RD seems to be dictating which players come in with SCP having very little say in the matter.East_Stand_Loopy said:
???????????flyingkiwiDK said:I worry about the effect it would have on the rest of the team if we were to drop Alnwick to make way for Yohann. Dressing room morale would take a nose dive.
Slightly concerned that RD appears to be calling the shots right now.
Of course he's calling the shots! Who do you think should be?
Why would Charlton be any different?
This seems to be how he works. It has worked pretty well at Standard Liege, so it has a chance of working at Charlton.
I repeat, get real people!
The fans have every right to question the decision making behind this loan and if this is the way it's gonna go.
I agree with you that it's worked at ST Liege, the table doesn't lie, however it's a risky game to play, especially when you have such a popular manager as CP.
I wouldn't usually resort to this kind of language on a message forum but you really are coming across as a right obnoxious twat!0 -
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This new owner has six football clubs and has very very different views on how football can be run. We will see lots of things that we do not think are acceptable based on the normal way of things. Some might work and some might not. I think the SL fans said exactly the same things about RD but look at them now. Let's wait and see what happens.0
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flyingkiwiDK said:
(Breathes huge sigh)East_Stand_Loopy said:
Please stop telling people to get real.East_Stand_Loopy said:
And all the evidence was there from supporters of other clubs within his stable was that this is exactly what he does.flyingkiwiDK said:
I didnt explain myself very well. What I meant was that RD seems to be dictating which players come in with SCP having very little say in the matter.East_Stand_Loopy said:
???????????flyingkiwiDK said:I worry about the effect it would have on the rest of the team if we were to drop Alnwick to make way for Yohann. Dressing room morale would take a nose dive.
Slightly concerned that RD appears to be calling the shots right now.
Of course he's calling the shots! Who do you think should be?
Why would Charlton be any different?
This seems to be how he works. It has worked pretty well at Standard Liege, so it has a chance of working at Charlton.
I repeat, get real people!
The fans have every right to question the decision making behind this loan and if this is the way it's gonna go.
I agree with you that it's worked at ST Liege, the table doesn't lie, however it's a risky game to play, especially when you have such a popular manager as CP.
I wouldn't usually resort to this kind of language on a message forum but you really are coming across as a right obnoxious twat!
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There is nothing to say we should not criticise any club decisions, whether RD CP or whoever, we as supporters have every right to question but whether we will get any answers from RD only time will tell.2
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I hope he is better than we have otherwise whats the point other than getting a player fit that Standard Liege see potential in but not good enough to dislodge their main keeper (who is the Japanese number 1 so you can't really blame them if he is that good). I wish him luck and hope he brings us clean sheets. Same as most we know keeper is not the area we needed to improve and i hope he is made to wait to earn his place rather than being told he is playing every game. No player should be expected to play every week regardless of performance and i think Alnwick deserves his run as he has been patient and taken his chance, in my opinion.
We have a new chairman and so far he has brought in 2 players. Not a bad start. We all know we need strikers and creative players (maybe a new centre back) but these are hard to come by that would really make any difference. No point bringing in second rate strikers for the sake of it. Its still early yet and i am hopeful we will address the area's we all know need addressing soon. Willing to be patient.1 -
Does anyone know if Hammer is out with a longer injury than expected?
Thuram might be cover for that reason and not to replace either keeper.0 -
I agree completely mate and this is just a small matter that I was questioning. Not only trying to see it from a fans perspective but also from CP's.ShootersHillGuru said:This new owner has six football clubs and has very very different views on how football can be run. We will see lots of things that we do not think are acceptable based on the normal way of things. Some might work and some might not. I think the SL fans said exactly the same things about RD but look at them now. Let's wait and see what happens.
I've said before I'm happy to see what happens and to give RD a chance, just MY liking would be for him to let CP do his job from top to bottom
East_Stand_Loopy you need to calm yourself down.2 -
If he ends up being the next Carson, think this thread will change its tone pretty quickly.
Give the guy a chance.0 -
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The problem is Gary, you have to realise who now pays CP's wages.ValleyGary said:
And you think CP will put up with that for how long??Kap10 said:
Not sure RD is going to be that pbothered to be honest and if he is calling the shots now I think we'll have to get used to it. RD is not going to be a benevolent paternal owner allowing his managers do what they like.ValleyGary said:I can't see CP being to happy about all this
If CP doesn't like the way RD is running the club, all he can do, is leave...0 -
We've only got one goal to defend, why so many keepers?1
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Of course.East_Stand_Loopy said:He who p
The problem is Gary, you have to realise who now pays CP's wages.ValleyGary said:
And you think CP will put up with that for how long??Kap10 said:
Not sure RD is going to be that pbothered to be honest and if he is calling the shots now I think we'll have to get used to it. RD is not going to be a benevolent paternal owner allowing his managers do what they like.ValleyGary said:I can't see CP being to happy about all this
If CP doesn't like the way RD is running the club, all he can do, is leave...
Then we might be in a situation where no manager with a bit of ambition wants to work for a man that dictates who he signs. Not many people want to be a yes man.
Look, this is all way over the top anyway as it might be a great decision and CP and RD get on like a house on fire and we are successful. It just a minor concern that I have .1 -
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It should be noted that it is not uncommon in other countries for the manager / coach to work with the players that are provided for him.1
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The "Director of Football" route is very common in Europe.ShootersHillGuru said:It shouldoou be noted that it is not uncommon in other countries for the manager / coach to work with the players that are provided for him.
And, despite the occasional hic cough, is becoming more common in the UK...0 -
happening at Spurs too.ShootersHillGuru said:It should be noted that it is not uncommon in other countries for the manager / coach to work with the players that are provided for him.
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It always goes sour when a manager is having players he has not chosen for himself forced upon him.
Oohah is right, if this was palace we would be taking the piss.
This is going to end badly I tell thee0 -
Isn't it also going on at Newcastle?LargeAddick said:
happening at Spurs too.ShootersHillGuru said:It should be noted that it is not uncommon in other countries for the manager / coach to work with the players that are provided for him.
Kinnear was appointed into that position at the start of the season...0 -
I am sure that SCP perfers any player coming in than not. Especailly when they are potentially better than you have or give greater depth.
I think we can also assume that Roland is not stupid and he has more reason than us to want us to be successful as it is his money.
We will have to wait and see.
All I know is that having players coming in is better than seeing them just leave.
looks a good signing to me.
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We've got a possible match winning 'keeper on board who is desperate to impress with a World Cup around the corner. I don't see what's wrong. I'm a fan of Hamer but a couple of months ago, people thought he wasn't good enough and Alnwick is nothing more than a bottom half Championship 'keeper.Carter said:It always goes sour when a manager is having players he has not chosen for himself forced upon him.
Oohah is right, if this was palace we would be taking the piss.
This is going to end badly I tell thee
When Powell signed BWP, I believe he said something along the lines of "you don't turn away players who will improve the squad if they become available". I think Thuram will prove himself and fall into this bracket.
The only part I'm not comfortable with is a six month loan with contracts running down on the other goalkeepers. If he was ours for good then things would feel much more secure. We are however getting one of Ligue 1's best goalkeepers of 12/13 effectively for free.1 -
Thuram and Pope one and two next season?
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It was said that Hamer had a small setback last week (whatever that means).StrikerFirmani said:Does anyone know if Hammer is out with a longer injury than expected?
Thuram might be cover for that reason and not to replace either keeper.0 -
Because that's worked well hasn't it. £100m down the drain on transfer fees alone. Not to mention wages, paying up AVB and backing Sherwood this month.LargeAddick said:
happening at Spurs too.ShootersHillGuru said:It should be noted that it is not uncommon in other countries for the manager / coach to work with the players that are provided for him.
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