I would not say "great" that's probably a bit too much but he does have a very strong record throughout his career.
Let's forget about his spell at The Scum and he then did OK with Ireland - got them to the WC in 2002 - took Sunderland up and then got sacked and did the same with Wolves who made a huge mistake in sacking him when they did.
He has done OK at Ipswich seeing as they have clearly cut back on the type of spending that Paul Jewell was doing (God knows how Jewell got that job in the first place).
My old man met him on the train once and had a good chat to him, said he was a lovely bloke and was apparently gutted he didn't get the Charlton job after Curbs left - probably because he was still living in Bromley and it would have been the ideal local job!
Bryan Robson only has one mention on this thread, he warrants far more.
After a promising start at Middlesbrough, things eventually got so bad that they had to get Terry Venables in to supervise him. After leaving Boro, he went on to Bradford, winning 7 of his 28 games in charge and losing 20. He enjoyed a more successful time at West Brom, taking a full season and a half to get them relegated, before heading off to Sheffield United where he got the boot after 2 thirds of a season. Also had a brief spell as Thailand manager, jumoped before he was pushed after 2 wins in 7 games.
Every time I saw him interviewed he gave the impression that he might top himself that very evening.
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9 titles in Italy and Spain with four clubs. Champions league (4 nil smashing of Barca in the final).
Yep, don't think any manager should be marked down for doing poorly with England. We've been shite for about 15 years, and through 5 different managers, think there's something more to it than poor management.
Kenneth Dalglish - how did he keep getting jobs? At least Mark Lawrenson seemed to realise he was rubbish and pretty quickly side-stepped into punditry. And then, of course, there's the one and only Steve Coppell.
Most of the names banded about seem to trade on having one good season somewhere along the line. That appears to be an entry ticket to 4 or 5 subsequent jobs, after which you are found out completely (Dowie, etc..).
As to why chairmen are willing to grant these 4th/5th chances, who knows, but i guess they are easily persuaded that experience is hugely important, and are unwilling to try someone new/different/young/up-and-coming. You suspect also that many players are sceptical of untried Lennie Lawrence type appointments, even though many have proven successful. Of our best managers, three (Lennie, Curbs, SCP) were taking their first job in management, and Jimmy Seed had only done 2 seasons at Orient.
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Let's forget about his spell at The Scum and he then did OK with Ireland - got them to the WC in 2002 - took Sunderland up and then got sacked and did the same with Wolves who made a huge mistake in sacking him when they did.
He has done OK at Ipswich seeing as they have clearly cut back on the type of spending that Paul Jewell was doing (God knows how Jewell got that job in the first place).
My old man met him on the train once and had a good chat to him, said he was a lovely bloke and was apparently gutted he didn't get the Charlton job after Curbs left - probably because he was still living in Bromley and it would have been the ideal local job!
Anyway, at the time the job was available McCarthy had just been sacked with Sunderland on their way to relegation so his stocks were low.
After a promising start at Middlesbrough, things eventually got so bad that they had to get Terry Venables in to supervise him. After leaving Boro, he went on to Bradford, winning 7 of his 28 games in charge and losing 20.
He enjoyed a more successful time at West Brom, taking a full season and a half to get them relegated, before heading off to Sheffield United where he got the boot after 2 thirds of a season. Also had a brief spell as Thailand manager, jumoped before he was pushed after 2 wins in 7 games.
Every time I saw him interviewed he gave the impression that he might top himself that very evening.
http://www.standard.co.uk/sport/transcript-avram-grants-bizarre-interview-in-full-6674098.html
9 titles in Italy and Spain with four clubs. Champions league (4 nil smashing of Barca in the final).
At least Mark Lawrenson seemed to realise he was rubbish and pretty quickly side-stepped into punditry.
And then, of course, there's the one and only Steve Coppell.
As to why chairmen are willing to grant these 4th/5th chances, who knows, but i guess they are easily persuaded that experience is hugely important, and are unwilling to try someone new/different/young/up-and-coming. You suspect also that many players are sceptical of untried Lennie Lawrence type appointments, even though many have proven successful. Of our best managers, three (Lennie, Curbs, SCP) were taking their first job in management, and Jimmy Seed had only done 2 seasons at Orient.